(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Now im really not one for politics but a certain man named Nigel Farage who heads the UK independance party really opened my eyes on this situation, that being the EU. He's the Ron Paul of the EU and really speaks the truth, America needs more people like this because like them, we are being fed lies daily by our governments who are being bought out by secret orgnaisations and societies, abit like the zionists.

Just casually browsing Nigels political speeches on youtube in the EU parliament has really shown me what a farce this whole EU union is, the corruption that exists and how it really effects us here in the UK. These non-elected heads of state (not chosen by me or you) issuing 75% of the UK/EU laws, taking away 80% of our fishing rights and much more. We're paying to stay in this collapsing union at a cost of £50m per day.

Take a look at this great speech by Nigel and it might start to open your eyes even if you're not interested in politics.



Why hasn't their yet been a referendum in this country to say whether we want to really be a part of this failed state? Cameron promised us one however like most corrupt politicians he won't give us one, he hopes we will have forgotten.

For me this EU is stealth communism at work and just about as anti-democratic as it can be, shockingly it's not far off the soviet union and we need to leave it immediately however the only way to do this would be by voting in UKIP in 2015, they're becoming more popular by the day and are probably our best and last resort here in England/UK on many things including illegal immigration, the economy and job losses.

The conservatives, labour and lib dems are corrupt to their back teeth and it's about time we woke up and started to realise this because what they say has a bearing on your future. The whole EU is declining rapidly and it's about time we got off the titanic.

Another great speech exposing the corruption of the EU:



You can make your own decision but I know who gets my vote in 2015.

Being part of the EU is a good thing if the EU is run properly, unfortunately there would have to be massive reforms for this to happen.

The major problem with Europe is the Euro. A currency that would suit the German economy wouldn't suit a smaller less affluent country such as Greece. It just isn't possible to keep financial markets stable with such a difference. Whatever way you look at it, this recession would have came about. Booms and recessions are just part of the economic cycle. However, it's a lot worse than it should have been because of greedy bankers here in the EU. The pathetic handling of the Eurozone crisis and the Americans being completely stupid with their money.

But that's just it, it isn't being run properly and will never be run properly. The EU was destined to fail from the start by exactly what you have just said because it suits the Germans more than the less affluent countries, that also sided with the corruption of the EU heads of state. You'll start to notice this more while watching Nigel Farage because he exposes their little workarounds in the markets and their anti-democratic attitudes to everything, they don't accept no for answer.

Im not anti-EU but im anti-EU union. We can achieve ties with the EU including free trade without this rapidly declining union and be better off for it since we would get our rights back in this country. We've been a free country for near enough 1000 years and succeeded, why did it make the decision to join this union?

Another disturbing thing is the laws getting passed by un-elected people at the head of this union and we're just sitting here accepting them or it's more of a case that we don't know what legistlation and laws that are getting passed and cannot possibly oppose it.

in WW2 we and other countries paid in blood for German rule in Europe and look at us now, that's exactly where we are, they have the say what happens in Ireland, in Greece etc.

That's your opinion and it's a valid one to hold. Politics and finance really aren't my strong point so I wouldn't want too try and argue them.

Politics isn't my strong point either but Farage has really pointed out some disturbing truths about how we are being run. I just felt the need to share them with other people to see exactly what they thought, no arguments here, just a nice little debate because really politicians aren't exactly worth arguing over.

One thing to remember why are people saying this ?
Remember Nigel Farage has alot to gain from being voted in. Alot of what he tells you is also spin.

EU in it current form is a failure. It something that must happen if Europe wants to keep rich the shifting economic power means we need a union like that.
Problem i have is that people blindly believe that leaving the EU going to help the UK it won't. It going to hurt us not being in it.
We could still have to put in the same laws as the EU does but won't be able to debate around the same table.

The EU was a UK idea.....shocking right ? so why does the UK have a complete fear about the EU when we helped make it :/

What needs to happen in the EU and to save the euro is simple.
First fix the banking system
Any banks which are unstable let them fail and make a new bank. Make banks safer but don't force unnecessary rules on them.
Next increase taxes on the super wealthy and lower taxes on the less well off.
Next fix uncompetitive nations by making exchanges on certain nations higher.
Next massive investment spending in nations which are in recession or have demand depressed.
Next setup a bank for the euro which is willing to step in and help nations which are in trouble.
Etc etc

Fixing the euro should be done first next is reshaping the EU into a federation of states.
It not corrupt politicians but failure of anybody in the EU to lead us out of this crisis. What more worrying is the fact with budget cuts we have failed to ditch into inequality we have. We could easy pay off are debt if the wealthly paided more and invested more into communities.

This EU fear should be answered with how the EU works. Leaving it has allowed this issue to flair up for no reason.

I honestly don't believe Nigel Farage is putting a spin on anything he says, his party formed out of a political protest against being in the EU and he foresaw this collapse.. If you watch alot of his speeches you will notice he tells it straight to these EU leaders and exposes them for what they really are and proposes better alternatives but they just take no for an answer because they're anti-democratic and would sooner see the EU collapse before they give up their one and only job in politics. The head of the EU is unelected and wasn't even heard of until he got appointed, there are ex-communists working within this union, it's reminiscent of the soviets.

The truth is this union is going to fail either way, as soon as one of the Mediterranean countries like Greece leaves then that's it the union collapses. This union was meant to be a powerhouse on the world stage by bringing the european countries together but it has failed completely not only because neighbouring european countries are not in the same economic league but because these leaders are more interested in their European dream which is making millions jobless, bankrupting nations and declining the economy, that and their wage packet.

To me democracy is important however with this union there is none whatsoever, Ireland & Greece were told by the president of the EU if and when to hold a General election, now just imagine if that was us here in Britain? The union is anti-democratic at it's finest and we have absolutely no say on this. When you take away the public's democracy and place them under an artificial state then it can only turn to violence, yugoslavia for example.

As Farage has already pointed out we can keep an EU pact whereby we stand by each other in times of war, we can have free trade etc. so why exactly do we need this union now? There is only so much bailout money until inevitably one of these nations leaves, devalues their money and starts a fresh anyways. The euro is pretty much dead now, the European central bank only has so much money worth of exposure to these bailed out countries before eventually the bank goes bust.

I'm not really sure what you mean when you say by leaving it, the situation has flaired up when we haven't left it?

Take a look at this, it just shows the circles the EU is running in:



But looking back, has it really benefited us? Like ive already stated: we've lost alot of our economic rights, fishing rights, university rights.. the list goes on. The EU has an enforced immigration policy and effectively the Euro has become a haven for illegal immigrants mainly from the middle east, we're effectively getting invaded.

The union is driving EU countries to being 3rd world countries, for me it's time it broke up and we all go back to being democratic sovereign states as a part of Europe, for those who need bailing out they will have to devalue their currency and re-build their economy.

Just another small thing, David Cameron has promised on numerous occasions for us to have a referendum here in the UK about our position in the EU and still a couple of years on he hasn't delivered. Being the typical tory he won't fulfil his promises.

In my honest opinion, it's time this country got its' spine back and really started caring for it's people which these tory bastards don't really don't seem to even take a glance at. They'd rather cut our military budget and public sector services before decreasing our foreign aid.