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Ugh...

This debate can't even continue at this point, I'm going to remind you to get back on track with your argument of Pro-Paul and don't argue anti-Obama/Romney. I could argue that Obama and Romney are just handing it over to the same useless morons time and time again. I personally support Karger more than anyone else (although I choose Obama in the sake of Romney vs. Obama issue, but this an entirely different topic).

So please, get your arguments back on topic, otherwise I'm not going to bother responding to useless jibberish of crap just because you can't show why Ron Paul's policies are beneficial.

Yes, we need income tax. It's the largest form of monetary exchange. Yes, tax codes need to be REFORMED (not removed). "Fix what you can and scrap what you can't" is not a viable policy because we'll eventually just devolve into a bunch of slinging yokels on horseback, and while that may look good to you on paper on in your mind - you can't honestly think that eating ham and beans every night is "the good life." We've come too far just to say, "FUCK IT, PROGRESS IS TOO HARD!"

The UN doesn't dictate how to run a country? Saying that them defining civil liberties is a crime is like saying that our Constitution is dictating. What you suggest with your argument for the need to leave the UN is basically saying that the world will do better with total anarchy. The UN was not started by a few powerful people - it is a treaty of several nations. It started after WW2 to replace the League of Nations and basically draws lines of international conduct and civil liberties. Such as in wars you can't just kill a family to take their home for the night. The UN is not trying to abolish the 2nd Amendment, because the UN does not fucking care (or they do, but they'll never bother to act on it).

As for high school, how do you think that's paid? State and federal income taxes ring a bell? Yes, those go into helping pay off wages of teachers and government employees around the country (although wouldn't it be so nice if the Congressmen didn't line their pocket at our expense?) I'd say, if anything, the teacher deserves to buy the suit and tie for every day of the week and the Congressmen can buy his clothes from Wal-Mart.

No, the vaccinations are not required for any state - they are only mandated if you work or preside in a government building. Either way, it's hard to say you would want to send your kids to public school but not support all of the policies that help pay and maintain that public school. Yes, there is a tuition cost - but it's usually not high enough to maintain everything they need.

I'm not going to hold your hand so you can think of a premise, calculate an argument and form a conclusion - because my days are rather busy. I could give you a million and one reasons why our policies do not work as they are now. HOWEVER, the answer is not devolution.

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I find myself caring about a lot of things and I don't know why. Maybe it's my maternal nature to want everyone to live a happy life, but I try to have a humanitarian or a libertarian perspective on most policies.

Yes I agree, we cant continue this debate because you cant see outside of the establishments lenses. I can go on and on on how R.P policies are beneficial

Ill just keep it brief this time. Federal Income Tax is the biggest scam on the American ppl, there is no actual law that say we have to pay it

As for the UN,I was saying we cannot trust them to "define civil liberties". What if their version of civil liberties contradict everything US suppose to stand for? (freedom/liberty)

What if the US Constitution is replaced by the UN Constitution?

This is their "New World Order" right in front of our face and you believe this is good? As for the wars, these same ppl who are in these organizations are the same ppl that fund the wars.

not being racist but i'd vote for an amercian and not for a black muslim . :/

not being racist but i'd vote for an amercian and not for a black muslim . :/