(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); If you haven't been living under a rock for the last couple of years, you'd know that some whistleblowers have been detained in prison without a single court case for more than 1000 days (Bradley Manning). So what's NGU's opinion on whistleblowers? Do you stand by them and support them? Or are you against whistleblowers, and believe that whatever happens behind closed doors, should stay behind them, whatever the matter?

Personally I support them, it's a fact that the government has been lying to us to some extent, and keeping information away from us, so why can't we have access to this information? If the people we've elected, lie to the whole country, then why should we re-elect them once again?

I want to hear NGU's opinion, I know some people already know what goes on the outside gaming world.

Let's keep the discussion nice and tidy, everybody has their own opinion so unless you have something serious and non-satirical to say, then please refrain from posting.

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Certain information cannot be disclosed. Most of government affairs that could harm the security of a nation should be kept out of the public's eyes. Other things, should be transparent. The government shouldn't have a lot to hide in the first place if they did decide to govern by the constitution, but unfortunately they are no longer in such a position. I do believe that everyone has the right to a free trail though. The law that was passed under the current president regarding the right of citizens to be kept in jail without fair trial is really just...stupid.

I mean there's no other word to describe it. Okay, maybe people who are not citizens and are considered to be terrorists should not have the right to a trial, but I am completely against having citizens being kept in jail without any reason whatsoever.

So no, I don't really support whistleblowers unless the public has the right to know. If it's something about the national security of a nation, I could never support that.

I always see the term "national security" bandied about but I've never seen an example of where "national security" has actually been compromised. Instead what we've had is an insight/confirmation into how much our governments lie to us.

Another way of putting it would be whose security is this, ours as a collective nation or just those at the very top?



Agreed.



Why? If a terrorist has committed a crime then a trial will be sufficient. Allowing the government a golden pass to detain whoever they want under the guise of 'terrorism' is dangerous to say the least.

Since I am currently unable to use the iQuote feature I'll just reply.

What I mean by national security would be things like the location of military bases, our nuclear missile capabilities, and other things like that. Obviously these are very closely guarded secrets that countries wouldn't like to have going around, especially for a country that would have such huge amounts of foreign involvements. (Both good and bad).

And yes, things like the public's financial status, and other confidential info should be kept secret too.


And you know what, you're right about the last part. Government nowadays will label anyone a terrorist just so they can create conflict. However under certain circumstances, there is no capture order, just kill. If a terrorist is captured you they should have a transparent trial, but in most cases terrorists aren't captured, but they end up being killed instead.

I totally get where you're coming from, but right now I see our own government(s) as our primary threat so this doesn't really bother me. Enabling a lack of transparency in any manner at all gives them the opportunity to hide whatever they want from us.




Sure, and I disagree with the order. Although I get the impression we're not necessarily in disagreement there.

I've read about Bradley manning and what he released to wiki leaks. I think that sort of stuff should be released, because the allied forces were not always the good guys. We bash the nazis for what they did to the Jews, which is indeed really bad and probably worse than anything to date, but American soldiers have done bad things too incuding torture p, cutting off you know what parts of people in the case of Bradley manning the killing of innocent people by American soldiers. I fully support whistleblowers as it exposes what lies behind the smiling faces of the government.

Guys, whistleblowing doesn't just deal with the government. Something like being in waste water management, having the upper management lie and fudge results, while you bring it up to them and nothing happens and bringing it out to the news is also whistleblowing (this happened in my city, New Brunswick, it's been going on for years, and this is also my future career.) But ultimately, in regards to individuals, such as Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden, everything they did, should have been protected under our whistleblowing laws, but the government never likes getting its ass handed to them. We the people deserve to know all these horrible things they do, even when they try to hide it under the guise of "national security."