(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Okay guys, well I usually get a lot of ideas that brew up in my head when I am hitting the bong. I thought this idea actually made sense and was worth sharing with you guys so I can get your opinions on it. Well a government makes laws to keep people in line and protect the public from utter destruction, am I right? Well in my opinion laws are to strict no matter where you live. I think that you have the right to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't harm another person. For example, if I were to do drugs that cause harm to my body and fuck my own life up it should be perfectly fine as I am not harming anyone else just myself. But if I was to say shoot someone that's harming someone else so that should be of course against the law. That's my opinion on this. I wanna know you guy's thoughts on the subject.

Hell yea hit that bong! (I want in on some action too) Oh and yea down with the drug laws x)

With that logic frauds would be legal, because they don't directly hurt anyone.

Obviously your logic is flawed.

Frauds do effect others negatively. So my logic wouldn't even apply to fraud.

I agree with the OP. What you are talking about is called Common Law or Divine Law. We are free to do WHATEVER we want as long as you dont do harm in any fashion to someone else. This is how things are supposed to be. Now we have man's law, which is to control people. Its so many laws made by man and most of them violate Common Law it is ridiculous.

So, basically, your opinions on laws are that they should not apply to actions that don't negatively affect anyone else.... Good idea in a perfect world, but stupid when you try to apply this logic to reality.

When it comes to laws and lawmaking, 2 of the most essential things are the wording of the laws and the potential for interpretation of the laws.

For 1, the definition of 'negative harm' is relative to the individual, so while you might not think that doing drugs harms anyone, another person will think that it does; this makes the same action legal for one person and illegal for another. Flawed.

Also, in order to take the drugs (which you claim should be a legal act) you're still breaking multiple laws by buying them in the first place, so you've still broken the law and are still technically a criminal. Unless you de-criminalise something completely then you can't justify its usage in the context of legality.

Also, some people would say that using drugs DOES harm you; they would argue it harms you, your family and friends etc. Also, the person you buy the drugs off of is harming people's lives by dealing them drugs etc. so, again, interpretation makes your proposal legally implausible.

I was just using drugs as an example because that was your example. I like drugs. I think we should de-criminalise and educate; look at (I think) Norway, or Portugal. They've done it and it's working wonders.

However, in modern democratic society your idea for laws just wouldn't work, I'm afraid

But then again, what about if you take meth and go on some killing spree etc.

I believe drugs like Cannabis should be legalized but the only reason that's not legal because the government would make no money on it but Tobacco and Alcohol, you know that duty you pay? Yup goes on the government so they can get money. That's why Cannabis mixes from county to county.

Some types of drugs do intend to fuck people's mind and make them kill someone. That's why there's a law for it...

All drugs/alcohol affect people negatively. I could get high and "fuck up my own life" but if I have impaired judgement and get into a car and kill a family on the highway, that's negatively impacting someone's life. That's applicable to literally every type of drug, except Tobacco since that does not get you high, rather it contributes to second hand smoke.

The problem here is not what you're debating, it's the fact that the public needs to take responsibility for themselves. Take this scenario into account for a second.

I am going out to see a friend, then we want to go somewhere, let's say the local shooting range. The second I walk out of that door I know that at any given point in time my life could end. I know that an impaired driver could come out of nowhere and kill me. I know that someone who smoked a bit too much weed could try harm me due to being more susceptible to poor judgement.

By this logic, we need laws against everything. Because every type of drug could harm someone. We could even go as far as saying someone who drank too much soda pop is going to kill someone somewhere while driving to the doctors to pick up their diabetes medication.

And obviously we aren't going to ban sodas. (Or at least I hope we won't there's no telling what they'll do with the current government)

So the government needs to get out of the people's lives, yes I agree with that. Laws are going to help in some circumstances. Heavy drugs are illegal for a reason, and they will affect people even if you think that it's only affecting the users of the drugs. Like I've said before, Weed is something that I am fully for legalizing. We spend too much money on the war on weed and it's time to realize that it's safer than alcohol and tobacco too.

Even on something like the issue of guns, where there are two sides to the argument. People have to realize that although countries like the USA have higher gun violence rates, the overall crime rate is no better than that of Canada (which hardly has any weapons but there are stabbings/robberies left and right).

The government needs to pass laws that don't address one thing. They need to pass laws that minimizes the damage over a very wide spectrum of things. If you want the example look at the gun example above. People who want to disarm the public look at one statistic and one statistic only, that of gun murders. Yet they don't realize that if we took those away, the other forms of murder and other crimes like theft would skyrocket, affecting even more people.

You can't just look at one perspective of the law. Think about who you could possibly affect by using drugs, and yet, it's still safer to do weed than to make it illegal and have millions killed in drug wars. You have to balance the books and make sure that you are doing the best that you can, without interfering in people's rights.

Along with everything Millz said, you have to think at how you using drugs would effect your family and friends. Its mental harm to your family to see you that way, wasting your own life after they have done so much to raise you.