Post: Is Life Relevant?
06-04-2013, 04:38 AM #1
Crunk
Sir, I'm too 1337
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I'm in a different sorta mood, call it suicidal if you must. I don't plan on doing anything, but ya know its a thought (Trolls beware, this is a serious thread).So on to the debate and why I'm starting this in the first place.Yes its the sterotypical reason; a girl. A girl I love very much and plan to marry, shit's happening between us, not going into details because its really no one's business, but my own...anyways, the real debate is, is life worth sticking to? The typical answer will be "Yes, there's this and that to look forward to," but that isn't what I'm looking for, because I know for a fact that every single person has thought about hurting themself, at least once. So if there's so much to look forward to why even have the thought? Why does our brain even put the thought of permanently shutting itself down? I got the pot stirred, someone throw the wood under, start the fire, and get the pot boiling.
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06-04-2013, 01:23 PM #11
Crunk
Sir, I'm too 1337
Originally posted by Jake View Post
In all honesty, no I haven't. In your life you'll have good times and bad times, but something is always better than nothing.

Next year you probably won't even be thinking about this girl.


Alrigh Jake, then you proved me wrong. Yes life will have it's ups and downs, I agree with you too, something is always better than nothing. Also me and my girl are engaged :p So I doubt Inll forget about her.

Originally posted by Farmer
I have to agree with Jake. Personally I have never considered hurting myself in any way, shape, or form. Indeed times are tough and you go through shit that depresses you or pisses you off. Hell I can attest to that, I would be graduating Class of 2013 this week with many of my friends, but I had poor judgement when I was younger and decided to skip school, not do homework, and study occasionally. It got me by, but Junior year it didn't. I failed it and I was depressed because I won't be there with my friends. And on top of that I still haven't attempted to complete my Junior year, so now I have that and my Senior year to work on. It's a shame that I'll be 20 when I graduate and three months short of 21.

Moral of the story is that as depressing as something is, it's inevitable that it will get better. It's what we call life, you just have to deal with all the bullshit that it brings, and eventually you'll be out of that funk. :y:


To begin, I'm sorry Quentin. I know it isn't my fault, but I'm the kind of person to care and say sorry. I understand there can be depressing things throughout life, but I think you and Jake are kinda like how most of everyone else is and taking this a little out of context. I'll be completely honest, my life has actually been quite good. Yes, I had some issues family wise; my dad was an abusive prick and my mom had a nervous breakdown. I have been dealing with it pretty well. I have always considered myself as a antisocial jackass, but people see me as the opposite. Apparently I'm a very easygoing, easy to talk to, social guy.

My point is, I don't want you guys getting the wrong idea about me. I really approached this subject the wrong way. I should've been more precise about what I'm trying to depict.

I don't understand how our brains can go through extreme measures to keep us alive and just as easily turn it around and make us want to die.

Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Psychological immune system and Affective forecasting.
Human mind has changed to help us cope with challenges and overcome of each one one. Each one of us has are own coping systems. On the bright side some people are similar so you're not alone.
Couple studies show you're as a result happy with no matter what outcome.
Thought is result of you putting all the relevant information together, it not the final decision. Loads of thoughts and ideas but not all of them are carried out.

More relevant question is how did we miss that ?


Rts, that's a very good question. I will be completely honest, I'm a psychology major and didn't know that, granted that I am still extremely early in my studies, but I didn't know that. You answered my questions entirely, so I'll answer your's the best I can. I missed that (I won't speak for anyone else) because I was ignorant to the knowledge entirely.

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Originally posted by Jake View Post
In all honesty, no I haven't. In your life you'll have good times and bad times, but something is always better than nothing.

Next year you probably won't even be thinking about this girl.


Alrigh Jake, then you proved me wrong. Yes life will have it's ups and downs, I agree with you too, something is always better than nothing. Also me and my girl are engaged :p So I doubt Inll forget about her.

Originally posted by Rath
I have to agree with Jake. Personally I have never considered hurting myself in any way, shape, or form. Indeed times are tough and you go through shit that depresses you or pisses you off. Hell I can attest to that, I would be graduating Class of 2013 this week with many of my friends, but I had poor judgement when I was younger and decided to skip school, not do homework, and study occasionally. It got me by, but Junior year it didn't. I failed it and I was depressed because I won't be there with my friends. And on top of that I still haven't attempted to complete my Junior year, so now I have that and my Senior year to work on. It's a shame that I'll be 20 when I graduate and three months short of 21.

Moral of the story is that as depressing as something is, it's inevitable that it will get better. It's what we call life, you just have to deal with all the bullshit that it brings, and eventually you'll be out of that funk. :y:


To begin, I'm sorry Quentin. I know it isn't my fault, but I'm the kind of person to care and say sorry. I understand there can be depressing things throughout life, but I think you and Jake are kinda like how most of everyone else is and taking this a little out of context. I'll be completely honest, my life has actually been quite good. Yes, I had some issues family wise; my dad was an abusive prick and my mom had a nervous breakdown. I have been dealing with it pretty well. I have always considered myself as a antisocial jackass, but people see me as the opposite. Apparently I'm a very easygoing, easy to talk to, social guy.

My point is, I don't want you guys getting the wrong idea about me. I really approached this subject the wrong way. I should've been more precise about what I'm trying to depict.

I don't understand how our brains can go through extreme measures to keep us alive and just as easily turn it around and make us want to die.

Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Psychological immune system and Affective forecasting.
Human mind has changed to help us cope with challenges and overcome of each one one. Each one of us has are own coping systems. On the bright side some people are similar so you're not alone.
Couple studies show you're as a result happy with no matter what outcome.
Thought is result of you putting all the relevant information together, it not the final decision. Loads of thoughts and ideas but not all of them are carried out.

More relevant question is how did we miss that ?


Rts, that's a very good question. I will be completely honest, I'm a psychology major and didn't know that, granted that I am still extremely early in my studies, but I didn't know that. You answered my questions entirely, so I'll answer your's the best I can. I missed that (I won't speak for anyone else) because I was ignorant to the knowledge entirely.
06-04-2013, 01:25 PM #12
xMo
League Champion
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
Firstly I'll address Mo, I think you're reading this more as a cry for help, its actually not. It can be easily mistaken though. Also me feeling "suicidal" has nothing to do with losing anything. I have my mother and my girl, yeah things are rocky, but I still have them. My real question is why is our brain sick and twisted enough to come up with a story and try to believe, that it is ok to kill itself?

Now on to Jango, you have a slightly different approach, but all-in-all the same general backgrounded answer. You feel this is a cry for help and I may hurt myself. Like I told Mo, I don't plan on doing anything, just said I've thought about it. I do like the bit about living for others, thought that was rich. Did you know a study was done to test the effectivness of certain emergency trigger words, this was a police stud, so the subject of rape came up. They found out that 7 out of 10 times the groups of people responded and acting after hearing "Fire" and not when hearing the real trigger, "Rape." Now why is that? Its simple, fire implies someone else's danger, rape is someone else. Our brain naturally watches out for itself to keep it alive, but yet we still come up with a reality that makes it sound like a good plan. Why would we let others die and suffer to save ourself and at the same time have the capability to want to end what its saving?

I've been very depressed and stressed allot of times but never had I ever considered suicide, lol I'm scared to scratch myself with a blade so I don't think suicide will ever be an option for me.

I think its based on the person, some people brains work differently in emotional times.

What I can't understand is why people in countries westernized have these approaches, as if you think there's always somebody in a condition 100x worser than you are.
06-04-2013, 05:24 PM #13
Jango
I love my kitteh
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
Our brain naturally watches out for itself to keep it alive, but yet we still come up with a reality that makes it sound like a good plan. Why would we let others die and suffer to save ourself and at the same time have the capability to want to end what its saving?


When life becomes so miserable for an individual that depression overwhelms natural instinct.
06-04-2013, 06:50 PM #14
Budz
Former Staff
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
I'm in a different sorta mood, call it suicidal if you must. I don't plan on doing anything, but ya know its a thought (Trolls beware, this is a serious thread).So on to the debate and why I'm starting this in the first place.Yes its the sterotypical reason; a girl. A girl I love very much and plan to marry, shit's happening between us, not going into details because its really no one's business, but my own...anyways, the real debate is, is life worth sticking to? The typical answer will be "Yes, there's this and that to look forward to," but that isn't what I'm looking for, because I know for a fact that every single person has thought about hurting themself, at least once. So if there's so much to look forward to why even have the thought? Why does our brain even put the thought of permanently shutting itself down? I got the pot stirred, someone throw the wood under, start the fire, and get the pot boiling.

I'll be open minded while posting this so this isn't a religious point of view. Honestly, there is no point to live if you don't believe in "something." The idea of living as an atheist is to do what society normally does, but there's no point in living if that's the case. Why live when you know you're going to die and rot? As an atheist, i would think of this.


In my religion, it says that God knows whether we're going to hell or heaven before we're born. I ask myself, "why am i living if God knows where i'll be in the future." From a religious point, you live to take choices and to challenge life itself. You either do bad or good and you can change your fate. But still, i can admit that there is no proof of how we came "or" how we evolved into humans. There is no proof of how the universe started or the world was created. It's a topic that can be discussed forever. How did everything start? If someone answers that 1 million dollar question, then you'll know why you should or shouldn't live. But the reason why i live is to challenge life and it's obstacles to reach a good ending.

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06-04-2013, 07:27 PM #15
jaaaasonx
League Champion
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
I'm in a different sorta mood, call it suicidal if you must. I don't plan on doing anything, but ya know its a thought (Trolls beware, this is a serious thread).So on to the debate and why I'm starting this in the first place.Yes its the sterotypical reason; a girl. A girl I love very much and plan to marry, shit's happening between us, not going into details because its really no one's business, but my own...anyways, the real debate is, is life worth sticking to? The typical answer will be "Yes, there's this and that to look forward to," but that isn't what I'm looking for, because I know for a fact that every single person has thought about hurting themself, at least once. So if there's so much to look forward to why even have the thought? Why does our brain even put the thought of permanently shutting itself down? I got the pot stirred, someone throw the wood under, start the fire, and get the pot boiling.


Chin up mate whats for you wont go by you Happy
06-04-2013, 07:38 PM #16
Hayden
Climbing up the ladder
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
I'm in a different sorta mood, call it suicidal if you must. I don't plan on doing anything, but ya know its a thought (Trolls beware, this is a serious thread).So on to the debate and why I'm starting this in the first place.Yes its the sterotypical reason; a girl. A girl I love very much and plan to marry, shit's happening between us, not going into details because its really no one's business, but my own...anyways, the real debate is, is life worth sticking to? The typical answer will be "Yes, there's this and that to look forward to," but that isn't what I'm looking for, because I know for a fact that every single person has thought about hurting themself, at least once. So if there's so much to look forward to why even have the thought? Why does our brain even put the thought of permanently shutting itself down? I got the pot stirred, someone throw the wood under, start the fire, and get the pot boiling.



We all feel this way sometimes when y grandmother died a couple of months ago i dint want to see or speak and i did think about this stuff but sometimes you have to take life o the chin
06-04-2013, 08:26 PM #17
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by Crunk View Post
Rts, that's a very good question. I will be completely honest, I'm a psychology major and didn't know that, granted that I am still extremely early in my studies, but I didn't know that. You answered my questions entirely, so I'll answer your's the best I can. I missed that (I won't speak for anyone else) because I was ignorant to the knowledge entirely.


Smile
When I first looked at this thread something told me you wanted a answer like that.
Don't know the answer to my own question maybe one day somebody is going to answer it for me or me.
Never studied psychology but it an interest sometimes I do read up on things like that.

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06-04-2013, 09:24 PM #18
Crunk
Sir, I'm too 1337
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Smile
When I first looked at this thread something told me you wanted a answer like that.
Don't know the answer to my own question maybe one day somebody is going to answer it for me or me.
Never studied psychology but it an interest sometimes I do read up on things like that.


I hope that question is answered..and maybe we already do know the answer. Maybe we're just too afraid of what'll happen if we know the answer.
06-05-2013, 04:20 AM #19
420
Kush Friendly
I think about this shit all the time, and I sort of get depressed. I'm not depressed, but when I get lost in deep thought about life, I get pretty down. I see life as a huge challenge and opportunity. We have to make the best of what's there for us and work hard for what isn't. I'll be honest, the whole "suicidal" ordeal has crossed my mind in my moments of darkness, but it's not something I've seriously considered; rather, just a thought.

But the relevancy of life is something I can't quiet fathom yet.

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