(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I like him I think he has some interesting points in his speeches. What are your thought about him?

Building a wall. Wouldn't that promote isolation between the US and Mexico, when we've been trying for decades to have trading and organizations between our two nations, through NAFTA or otherwise? A wall won't prevent 100% of illegals from entering. Take the Berlin Wall for example. It was meant to separate Soviet-controlled Germany from its liberal counterpart. It was manned with towers and high levels of security, and yet people did get through. Think about this: say we did build a wall. Say we never have an illegal move to USA again. The crime and drugs would still be in America, because, like said in my post, Mexicans did not create the violence, and if any choose to participate, it is not representative of their whole ethnicity or race. Look, I understand the ideal: keep immigrants (regardless of legal status) out of the country, because we're struggling to support the American-born citizens. But his approach is all wrong. There may be a few immigrants who come into this country to participate in the drug trades, but there's also a great many that come from broken homelands and just want to have a fresh start, for both them and their families. It takes over a decade to earn citizenship. In essence, a wall just shows our distrust and further distaste towards Hispanics, and not just illegals, and it would indirectly reflect and promote a racist attitude towards Mexicans.

Long post man. It gets the point across. I agree totally building a wall is not good. It just shows distrust and it dose make it look like we have a racist mood towards them. Also doing that will make us go into dept even more. We are over 3 trilian dollars in dept. Thats more money then america even has.

He asking questions but......the wrong questions and giving the wrong answers.

Don't get his views on the border wall and other bits of policy. Not sure his heart is in it but something far more worrying...

No pun intended but I'm on the fence about the idea myself. It's understandable why nations have a wall, and we already have ports of entries etc. My issues with immigration is with the government. As you mentioned the path to citizenship is absurd. I live in a heavily Russian and Ukrainian populated city so I've got plenty of friends who had to go through the process to gain citizenship. I feel a better solution would be revamping the system and making it less bureaucratic even if that means having to pay more in taxes. That alone is the reason why families and people are so quick to throw their life savings to coyotes to smuggle them and risk their life in the process. I feel if politicians and presidential candidates were to look at the military and see how many people enlist from other countries just to gain citizenship because of two reasons. One being they so badly want to be an American and defend our nation and what makes it great and two it's loads to easier to gain citizenship. They'd realize that the system needs revamping.

Plus people don't realize how much DHS as done nor how much they prevent smugglers. If the path to citizenship was less retarded people would realize that we really don't have much of an immigration problem.

It can take up 10-20 years even to attain citizenship, and the American government has a huge backlog. I say, instead of America demonizing immigrants, why don't we first assess why so many immigrants are coming through our borders, what we can do to reduce the migration waves toward mutual benefit, and what can be done to help increase development and prosperity and the countries they emigrated from. Many Mexicans will tell you, they widespread violence and gang-controlled territory, and with minimal industries looking to structure themselves in Mexican gangland, it increases unemployment rate, reduces literacy and education rate, and increases the problem. It can be said that the same happens in many nations in Latin America: Guatemala, Venezuela, etc. Most of the immigrants coming from these lands aren't doing it 'for the hell of it', but so they can live a better life, and create better opportunities for their children than they had. I agree with your points, but only time will tell what happens on the basis of immigration reforms. I'm interested on what countries within the EU think of it, as they are dedicated (at least Germany is) in giving safe haven to refugees (in part, because their total fertility rate and growth rate is so low).

I find it funny that people are calling him racist and sexist and all of those other things. He's none of those things, he's just not politically correct. He never called out Hispanics for damaging our country, he called out ILLEGALS. He even mentioned illegal Canadian and European immigrants too. You sound like you listen to everything you hear on the news so here is some advice: News is centered around ratings. They will make anybody look bad to make a quick buck. But back to the point, if you think Trump is wrong for swing that illegals are bad, I would like to know why? Why should criminals be welcomed into our country? My best friend waited 10 years to become legal and come to the United States. How is that fair? Should he have to wait 10 years just to see people cross illegally and get away with it? I too grew up with minorities of all kinds so don't be thinking I'm some good ole country boy. He never blamed a anything on Mexicans as a whole, only ILLEGALS.

P.S. I laughed that you said Americans blamed all Muslims for 9/11. I come from a military background and you wouldn't even know how many innocent Muslims were saved because of U.S. intervention. So many Americans died helping Muslims. If we hated all Muslims there would be a much better alternative to war, and it's called the nuclear weapon. But you don't hear that on a news station, do you?

Did I say ALL Americans blamed Muslims? No. Big difference. But, there you go again, citing illegal immigrants as criminals, just like Trump.
"if you think Trump is wrong for swing that illegals are bad, I would like to know why? Why should criminals be welcomed into our country?" <- that right there shows your perception of immigrants. Oh, just because they're illegal automatically makes them criminals. Congratu-fucking-lations that your friend became legal, but that's not always how the system works. There's a huge back log of citizenship requests back to the early 90's if not earlier, so if I thought I could give my family better freedom than my crime-torn country, and knew my chances of attain US citizenship was unbelievably low, I would choose to illegally cross. Maybe you need to learn some American history. Whether you think you're legal or not, we all are offsprings from illegal immigrants. Just because the Europeans stole the Native Americans' land, does not mean they were automatically legalized. Just because they took America as a colony does not mean they are citizens. Much of the people living in Mexico have an amount of Native American blood, and besides, they owned Texas, Arizona, New Mexico before the US got their hands on those regions, and in turn, states. From what you're saying, if Japan took over China and expelled all the Chinese, and the Chinese tried to get back to their homeland, they'd be illegal and treated as criminals. Before you talk to me about being "politically correct", how about you stop referring illegals as criminals. You're only promoting my point about Trump by saying that. And no, by focusing on the illegals, he is mocking the Hispanics as a whole. You think just because a person has become a citizen, that he doesn't have family back home that he/she wishes they could give the same opportunities as them? Your solution to the immigration problem is making Hispanics wait over a decade to attain citizenship, while they live in gangland territory, are scared for their lives, have limited working opportunities, and can barely afford housing, if any? Yeah, great job, I see why you're a Trump fanboy. My ex is an illegal Guatemalan, and I would never call her a criminal. So stick your foot in your mouth, and good day. I'm done with this thread.

Actually, you referring to "Americans" attacks the group as a whole. I don't know what planet you come from where that's different. And yes I called illegal immigrants criminals, are they not? They broke the law to get here, a criminal is one who breaks laws. So yes, illegal immigrants are criminals, right from the definition. There is no argument about that. I never said that every single one of them are bad, so you are contradicting your own argument. My parents came here legally, so no I'm not an illegal immigrant. We should not be promoting illegal action. We spend countless dollars on illegal immigrants who aren't even supposed to be here. Should the United States be tasked with other countries problems? No, countries like Mexico can fix their own problems. All of that gibberish you said about we are all illegals is totally off topic and fluff to make yourself feel better so I will not even respond to that. The politically correct term for someone who does something illegal is criminal so you make absolutely no sense. You sound butthurt that I called you out and you can't argue what I said, and even if you do argue back, none of it makes sense. Life isn't fair, and whoever taught you that it is, is a moron. It shows your true character when you called me a Trump fanboy, as he is not my candidate that I want to win. That's just plain irony. Your ex being an illegal doesn't make you biased at all, right? Since an illegal told me that all illegals were good I should believe them, right?

Thanks for the insults and all though, go ahead and leave the thread since you can't come up with a valid argument.

He's an interesting case. I like some of his ideas, but a lot of what he says isolates large groups of people (and voters) so I just don't think he is electable.

Personally, my man is Dr. Ben Carson

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