Post: Who would you vote for as US President in 2016
10-23-2015, 01:34 AM #1
NP Carling26
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Right now, both parties have two main front runners.

Republicans:
Donald Trump
Ben Carson

Democrats:
Bernie Sanders
Hillary Clinton

Since the nominees won't be known until next summer, I'm putting all four in. Just select who you would vote for (and say why if you like)

If you're 18 or older, I truly hope you do actually vote, as your voice matters and makes the difference.

Also, general discussion over the election is fine in here today, as I personally take it very seriously.

I personally plan on voting Republican regardless of the nominee, but I truly hope Carson gets the nomination.
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10-27-2015, 03:13 AM #20
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10-27-2015, 03:15 AM #21
Fina
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+1 for kanye if not +1 for trump for the hairstyle Smile
10-27-2015, 03:51 PM #22
I really don't like any of the candidates. Which sucks. I like some of Sander's ideas. However I like how blunt trump is. Although I have one question that if a candidate would answer honestly and completely, I would vote for them. The United States is nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt. Obviously no one person can change that in 4 years, or even 8 if elected twice. However that person could put us on a track to getting out of debt. The question I have is, how do you do it? How do you get the US out of debt?

I have talked to a lot of people and I hear a lot of "don't worry about it. that isn't a real issue." I understand that it isn't a huge issue, right now. However it will be one day. I'm 18, and I may never see the repercussions of being this far in debt in my lifetime, but someday it will cause real problems for the US, and I don't want to see that happen. Back in the stock market crash of 2008, we learned that no company is ever too big to fail. I believe the same principle applies to countries. No matter how big the US is in the world, it could fall one day. I don't wanna see that happen because we couldn't pay a bill.
10-28-2015, 03:22 AM #23
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Originally posted by partypoker15 View Post
I really don't like any of the candidates. Which sucks. I like some of Sander's ideas. However I like how blunt trump is. Although I have one question that if a candidate would answer honestly and completely, I would vote for them. The United States is nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt. Obviously no one person can change that in 4 years, or even 8 if elected twice. However that person could put us on a track to getting out of debt. The question I have is, how do you do it? How do you get the US out of debt?

I have talked to a lot of people and I hear a lot of "don't worry about it. that isn't a real issue." I understand that it isn't a huge issue, right now. However it will be one day. I'm 18, and I may never see the repercussions of being this far in debt in my lifetime, but someday it will cause real problems for the US, and I don't want to see that happen. Back in the stock market crash of 2008, we learned that no company is ever too big to fail. I believe the same principle applies to countries. No matter how big the US is in the world, it could fall one day. I don't wanna see that happen because we couldn't pay a bill.


I think the main way that we get on the track to lower the national debt or at least slow the rate of increase is to cut government employees and reduce the amount of programs and sectors we have. This is something that, in general, republicans are for and democrats are against. Many if not most of the democratic ideas involve creating new government programs and adding more government employees which I thinking is the opposite direction we need to be headed.

They have lots of great ideas, in theory, but no good way to pay for them other than raising the national debt even higher by spending more money we already don't have.

There are some programs that could definitely be reduced and some that I think should be cut completely. One major program I think should be killed is the TSA. The TSA should be cut out completely in favor of private sector airport security. The TSA, after being introduced post 9/11 has stopped zero terrorist attacks (look it up) and costs us 2 billion a year.

Another good start would be the war on drugs. The war on drugs was started by Richard Nixon in 1971 during the crack epidemic and has been a massive failure. Since 1971 it has cost us over a trillion dollars, incarcerated more than half a million people for drug violations, and yet we are still the number one nation in the world for illegal drug use. It has been a trillion dollar failure.

There are lots of reforms that need to be made but I think these are two good places to start. Unfortunately I doubt either of them will happen any time soon.

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10-28-2015, 04:56 AM #24
NP Carling26
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Originally posted by partypoker15 View Post
I really don't like any of the candidates. Which sucks. I like some of Sander's ideas. However I like how blunt trump is. Although I have one question that if a candidate would answer honestly and completely, I would vote for them. The United States is nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt. Obviously no one person can change that in 4 years, or even 8 if elected twice. However that person could put us on a track to getting out of debt. The question I have is, how do you do it? How do you get the US out of debt?

I have talked to a lot of people and I hear a lot of "don't worry about it. that isn't a real issue." I understand that it isn't a huge issue, right now. However it will be one day. I'm 18, and I may never see the repercussions of being this far in debt in my lifetime, but someday it will cause real problems for the US, and I don't want to see that happen. Back in the stock market crash of 2008, we learned that no company is ever too big to fail. I believe the same principle applies to countries. No matter how big the US is in the world, it could fall one day. I don't wanna see that happen because we couldn't pay a bill.


It most certainly is a problem. Just look at Greece this past summer. They literally went into Economic ruin because of uncapped spending, very similar to the way the US is spending. No one likes this answer, but there's only one way to reduce the debt. Cut the spending. Government spending is out of control, and needs to be slashed. It sucks, but if we keep spending the way we are, we are soon going to go over an economic cliff that there will be no recovery from.

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