Post: Whos More Evil, God or The Devil.....
01-04-2010, 01:34 PM #1
AnNoYiN__spo0n
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04-08-2010, 09:10 PM #101
AnNoYiN__spo0n
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Originally posted by AgentEvanPig View Post
lol...wow is that so?


According to the Bible, Yes.
04-09-2010, 03:10 AM #102
Yeah OP you have some issues...
04-09-2010, 09:47 AM #103
Antones
Blood of Innocence
I personally dont believe in the 'devil'. I was watching a documentry and they said some prophet suggested that there must be an evil God, this suggesting its the devil. They said this 200 years of the death of jesus so they say. So I think hes made up.
04-09-2010, 10:14 AM #104
Originally posted by xinfectedsoulx View Post
There is no Devil. It's just God when he is drunk.


LOL nice reply, but i still believe the devil is more evil =)
04-09-2010, 10:17 AM #105
AnNoYiN__spo0n
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Originally posted by punjabi3 View Post
LOL nice reply, but i still believe the devil is more evil =)


Why do you think this?
04-09-2010, 10:28 AM #106
Alekz
Banned
It's all about the Yin and Yang in life.

Everything has to find it's own balance..That's why there's good and bad.Right and wrong.
God and Satan as you will...

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If you take the "D" from Devil..What will be left?"Evil"...



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Here are some facts about the Devil you might wanna read:


Satan (otherwise known as the devil) is the original enemy of God who rebelled at the foundation of the earth. He is the one ultimately responsible for all the deception that exists in this world. He has deceived many to disbelieve in his existence, though both serious Christians and well-informed devil worshippers both know he exists. He is a personal being, and has been both seen and heard by many people. He can use many forms - including that of an "angel of light".

It is not surprising therefore that Satan has lately tried to convince many he is not all that bad - another deception. Actually, Satan is the most powerful fallen angel and the master of all evil. He exercises a massive influence in the affairs of the earth. He is only a created being however, and his power just doesn't compare with God's. When the right time comes God will command some angels to tie up the devil and throw him into the lake of fire. One day people will wonder how the devil ever managed to deceive and destroy so much.

Some ask how Satan ever came into existence. Here is the Bible answer.

God created multitudes of angels, including at least three archangels: Lucifer, Michael and Gabriel. Angels are spirit beings which may or may not manifest themselves in a visible form (usually not). All angels were created good and holy but Lucifer, the chief worship angel decided to exalt himself and led a rebellion in heaven against God (Ezek. 28:13-15; Is 14:12-14). Lucifer and his angels were cast out of heaven and became Satan and his evil spirits (2 Peter 2:4). Satan is active today in the air (Eph 2:2), in the earth (Job 1:7) and also under the earth, in hell. Not being everywhere at once, as God is, he works through his forces, including fallen angels and demons. These spirits seek to live in and work through people, usually in a hidden way - usually not openly. The results of Satan’s work are still evident in our world today. Jesus came to destroy these works. (1 John 3:Cool Man (aka Tustin).

Satan is therefore the author of evil. His chief desire is to receive the worship that belongs only to God the Creator (Matt. 4:8-10; Rev. 13:4). He also works in his hatred against mankind to destroy them as much as he can for time and eternity.

Why does God permit Satan to exist and have so much power? Is God unable to destroy Satan? No, God could do it, but Satan is permitted to operate for certain reasons. Firstly, so there could be a choice - people must choose to worship God now - there is an alternative. Secondly, Satan and his kingdom exists to ensure that people reap what they sow. Thirdly, Satan is permitted to operate while God gives mankind time to repent. For God could not forcibly remove evil from the Universe justly unless He also destroyed sinners at the same time. God instead is holding back his wrath, giving men time to turn to Him.

Like his evil spirits, Satan has a mind, emotions, and a will which is in rebellion against God. They are persons, not forces. See Luke 11:24 for proof of this. No matter what people may say, these spirits still exist and work in different ways around the world. Many (but not all) pagans know this fact better than ignorant preachers and ministers who in their pride no longer trust the account of the Bible.



And some more facts known...





God created Lucifer, who is now Satan.

Read Ezekiel 28:13-19.

- Satan was created as a perfect Guardian Angel. 28:14

- Lucifer was the highest ranking creature in God's creation.

- He was the one nearest the throne of God. In all his beauty he continually praised God.

2 Corinthians 11:14 - Satan can disguise himself as an Angel of light.

On February 2, 1848, Mexico formally ceded the California territory to the United States. The transaction was part of the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo that ended a war between Mexico and the United Sates. Even though Mexico possessed great riches when it possessed California, the Mexican government had to yield the territory. Mexico was a defeated foe. In much the same way, the angel Lucifer had to surrender his heavenly glory after leading a rebellion in Heaven against the rule of God Himself.


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Satan's First Temptation

Garden of Eden: Temptation is Satan's invitation to give in to his kind of life and give up on God's kind of life. Read Genesis 3:1-6.

Temptation comes from evil desire within, not from God. It begins with an evil thought. It becomes sin when we dwell on a thought and allow it to become an action. Like a snowball rolling downhill, sin's destruction grows the more we let sin have its way. The best time to stop a snowball is before it is too big, or moving too fast to control.

Satan used a sincere motive to tempt Eve- "You will become like God!" To become more like God is the highest goal of humanity. It is what we are supposed to do. But Satan misled Eve on the right way to accomplish this goal. He told her that you become more like God by defying God's authority, by taking God's place and deciding for yourself what is best for your life. You become your own "god."

Satan tried to show Eve that sin is "lovely". A knowledge of both good and evil seemed desirable and harmless to Eve. People usually choose wrong things because they have become convinced that those things are good, at least for themselves. Our sins do not always appear ugly to us, and the "lovely" sins are the hardest to avoid. So prepare yourself for the attractive temptations that may come your way. We'll discuss attractive temptations in Matthew.

It's easy to blame others and make excuses for evil thoughts and wrong actions. Excuses include (1) it's the other person's fault; (2) I couldn't help it; (3) everybody's doing; (4) it was just a mistake; (5) nobody's perfect; (6) the devil made me do it; (7) I was pressured into it; (Cool Man (aka Tustin) I didn't know it was wrong.

A person who makes excuses is trying to shift the blame from himself to something or someone else. A Christian, on the other hand, accepts responsibility for his wrongs, confesses them, and asks God for forgiveness.

Don't feel guilty for almost sinning. The Holy Spirit convicts us to change after we sin. Satan tries to make us feel guilty before we sin and after we are forgiven.


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Satan's Fall From Heaven

See Isaiah 14.

Being like God is what we all should be doing. We should emulate God's perfect character. However, we should not crave to be God. God is always on the throne and nothing will ever dethrone Him. Satan didn't realize this.

Satan's sin included the following:

1) He sinned in his heart by coveting God's power. 14:13

2) Planned on being higher than God. 14:13

3) Planned on controlling God's angels and kingdom. 14:13

4) Planned on being God. 14:14


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Many Facts About Satan's Limitations

Satan discusses Job with God. See Job 1:6-13

Facts: 1) Satan is accountable to God. 1:6

2) His thoughts are open to God. 1:7

3) Satan can only be at one place at a time. 1:6,7

4) Satan cannot see into our minds or foretell the future. 1:9-11

5) Because Satan can do nothing without God's permission, God's people can overcome his attacks through God's power. 1:12

6) God always puts limits on what Satan can do. 1:12, and 2:6

7) Satan is real and active on earth. 1:7

Many people think that believing in God protects them from trouble, so when calamity comes, they question God's goodness and justice. But the message of Job is that you should not give up on God just because bad things happen. Faith in God does not guarantee personal prosperity, and lack of faith does not guarantee troubles in this life. If this were so, people would believe in God simply to get rich. God is capable of rescuing us from suffering, but He may also allow suffering to come for reasons we cannot understand. Job shows here a perspective broader than his own personal comfort. If we always know why we suffer, our faith would have no room to grow.

1 Peter 5:8-10 -- Satan is our great enemy.

If we see Satan as a comic figure with horns, and a pitchfork, there is apparently little harm he can do. He is real, and he is the enemy.


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Satan Tempts Jesus Christ

See Matthew 4:1-10.

Satan's temptations focused on three crucial areas: (1) physical desires, (2) possessions and power, and (3) pride.

- Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired: H.A.L.T.

This time of testing showed that Jesus really was the Son of God, able to overcome Satan and his temptations. A person has not shown true obedience if he has never had an opportunity to be disobedient. Satan used scripture to try to convince Jesus to sin! Sometime friends will present attractive and convincing reasons why you should try something you know is wrong. They may even find Bible verses which seem to support their viewpoint. Study the Bible carefully, especially the broader contexts of specific verses, so that you understand God's principles for living and what He wants for your life. Only if you really understand what the whole Bible says, can you recognize errors of interpretation when people take verses out of context and twist them to say what they want them to say.

Jesus quoted Deuteronomy 6:16, which says "Don't test God" in His defense against Satan.

- Temptation is often the combination of a real need and a possible doubt that create an inappropriate desire.


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Satan's Eternal Punishment

See Matthew 25:41 and Revelation 20:1-3, 10.

In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says, "Then I will turn to those on my left and say, 'Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons'."

Revelation 20:1-3,10

Satan's power is not eternal--he will meet his doom. He began his evil work in mankind at the beginning, in Genesis 3:1-6 it is recorded), and continues it today, but he will be judged when he is thrown into the Lake of Fire. Satan was released from the bottomless pit (20:7), but he will never be released from the Lake of Fire. He will never be a threat to anyone again.

2 Timothy 2:22 says, "Run from anything that gives you the evil thoughts young men often have, but stay close to anything that makes you want to do right. Have faith and love, and enjoy the companionship of those who love the Lord and have pure hearts."

Running away is sometimes considered cowardly. But wise people realize that removing oneself physically from temptation is often prudent. Perhaps you experience a recurring temptation that is difficult to resist. Remove yourself physically from the situation. Knowing when to run is as important in spiritual battle as knowing when and how to fight.

James 1:12 says, "Happy is the man who doesn't give in and do wrong when he is tempted, for afterwards he will get as his reward the crown of life that God has promised those who love Him."

Read Romans 8:38 and 1 Corinthians 10:13.

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04-09-2010, 10:31 AM #107
Lopez.
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Yea the devil is evil and god is OUR father
04-09-2010, 10:41 AM #108
AnNoYiN__spo0n
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@lekzenflekzen

God has, after all, killed billions of people in a great flood. Satan never did anything like that. What was the only thing Satan did "wrong"? He rebelled against God, but wouldn't you? Look at what kind of a God he is! He needlessly murders people in nearly everybook and passage of the Old Testament! He created an entire race of people for the sole purpose of catoring to his own ego, and then gets mad when we don't live up to our appointed role in life or question one of his decisions! He is a ruthless, dictatorial, narcissistic, sociopathic mass murderer. If I go to Hell for not worshipping him, so much the better. I'd rather spend eternity with Satan, someone who hasn't treated the human race like disposable garbage, someone who has given knowledge to humanity rather than trying to suppress it.
04-09-2010, 10:41 AM #109
Originally posted by spo0n View Post
Why do you think this?


I just believe the devil is more evil, maybe if he was portrayed in a different way i wouldnt believe he is evil, but everything the media, art, even books show you is that the devil is red with horns and a tail, personally to me i find that as an evil look

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