Post: American presidential election
11-17-2016, 02:30 PM #1
ResistTheSun
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I'm an outsider when comes to American politics. Here my opinion on Trump for anybody who cares.

Donald trump won the american presidential election. Painted as anti establishment candidate the outsider business person. Trump became the vehicle for that. Laughable as the establishment put forward, two candidates including Trump. Businessman who would be a fixer. Trump success came down very clever campaign. Emotional arguments which captured people. Republicans told a story, democrats defended a record. People wanted change democrats did not listen. Politics is never certain, voters change direction. Values may stay the same opinions change constantly.

Government is corrupt close to business not the people. Rather large paradox many, voted in people they so-called despise. More about many disregarding past statements. Yet judged other candidates more harshly. Media did not challenge any cognitive bias. Failed in own role informing or educating. Displaying it own cognitive bias as reality. Expert in all things, impossible dream. Making informed decisions about the future. Nobody expert in all things or everything, to make an informed decision. Why we choose politicians to make decisions for us. Politicians should follow the will, of the people is nonsense.

Populist politics now here, weak politicians unable to listen or challenge it. Many politicians have willed to ride the wave. Unwilling to own up to policy mistakes. Unwilling to defend policy success viewed as failures. Avoiding that difficult thing listening, finding compromise. Inconvenient truth certain demands are impossible to meet. Executive failed to deal with concerns.

Negative impacts many feel are result of poor policies, driven by politics over globalization bogeyman. Inconvenient truth populist politicians, caused this mess. Concerned for what this populist wave has in store. Frankly we don't know what Trump wants to do. Makes his brand of populist rather damaging/dangerous. Trump's campaign material went against American values, liberty, equality, democracy, individualism, unity, and diversity. Disregarding the rule of law, sounding deeply authoritarian.

Both sides must learn to listen. Finding a compromise which removes some politics from it. Clear voters real answers to concerns. Ignoring concerns calling people bigots or racist won't help. Pitching pie in the sky ideas won't help. Retreating into comfort zone, does not help. Voters want real change which is positive.

Outsiders wonder how can this happen. Same process currently happening around the world.
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11-17-2016, 10:17 PM #2
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This is NGU not the local poltical rambling section of a newpaper, therefor i or 99% of ngu members have 0 idea wat u r trying 2 say

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11-18-2016, 07:11 AM #3
DevouR
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Trump is seemingly arrogant and Hilary is straight up shady.

I'm just sitting back and seeing what Trump does before jumping to any conclusions. Give it a couple years.

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11-19-2016, 12:13 AM #4
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Originally posted by Toke View Post
This is NGU not the local poltical rambling section of a newpaper, therefor i or 99% of ngu members have 0 idea wat u r trying 2 say


I tried posting one of these and got a infraction. Not Happy or Sad
11-19-2016, 12:14 AM #5
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Originally posted by avatar1o1234 View Post
I tried posting one of these and got a infraction. Not Happy or Sad


if your political views didn't share the same as a few of the admins that used to be here it was instantly trashed and you were infracted
11-19-2016, 12:18 AM #6
Originally posted by Austin View Post
Trump is seemingly arrogant and Hilary is straight up shady.

I'm just sitting back and seeing what Trump does before jumping to any conclusions. Give it a couple years.


He appointed an alt-right nut to his cabinet, and a climate-change denier as epa chief. I think it's fair to jump to conclusions by now.
11-19-2016, 12:22 AM #7
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Originally posted by Frosty View Post
He appointed an alt-right nut to his cabinet, and a climate-change denier as epa chief. I think it's fair to jump to conclusions by now.


Climate change isn't a thing because the world is flat.

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11-19-2016, 12:56 AM #8
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Originally posted by Frosty View Post
He appointed an alt-right nut to his cabinet, and a climate-change denier as epa chief. I think it's fair to jump to conclusions by now.


Climate change isn't an imminent threat to the world. Sure, its important as fuck and I don't think Trump could even deny that; but he doesn't care about it.

What he cares about is "making america great again". No doubt with the amount of industrial sized mining he plans on bringing in he'll do just that. Why care for the earth when you won't be around to see it's demise?

I still think that too many people are jumping to conclusions. Give the fucking guy a solid year or two to prove himself and after that you can say what you want and have it be justified.

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11-19-2016, 01:06 AM #9
Originally posted by Austin View Post
Climate change isn't an imminent threat to the world. Sure, its important as fuck and I don't think Trump could even deny that; but he doesn't care about it.

What he cares about is "making america great again". No doubt with the amount of industrial sized mining he plans on bringing in he'll do just that. Why care for the earth when you won't be around to see it's demise?

I still think that too many people are jumping to conclusions. Give the fucking guy a solid year or two to prove himself and after that you can say what you want and have it be justified.


He'll just be a puppet for Pence Sal
11-19-2016, 01:19 AM #10
DevouR
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Originally posted by Frosty View Post
He'll just be a puppet for Pence Sal


Its American politics and on top of that a democracy. You act like every president ever hasn't been a puppet to some extent. Everyone knows who really runs the country.

Ideas kill.

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