Post: SONY rumoured to be adding CD KEYS to stop Piracy
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01-21-2011, 08:33 PM
#1
central_driver
Keeper
Rumour has it that Sony is looking to the PC games market to help solve its growing piracy problem on the PlayStation 3 - with the introduction of serial keys to its games.
According to 'a very reliable source' quoted by PS3-Sense, Sony is attempting to address the recent revelation that it failed to properly secure the private signing key for its flagship console - leading to clever tinkerers producing third-party firmware that allows unofficial software and illegitimately downloaded games to run on unmodified hardware - by looking to the PC retail market for solutions.
Unlike the PS3, the PC doesn't have a hardware DRM system built in to it - despite attempts by groups like the Trusted Computing Group, formerly the Trusted Computer Platform Alliance, to introduce such a thing - relying instead on software-based DRM and a surprisingly old-fashioned guarantee of a game's uniqueness: a serial key.
Printed on the product's packaging, the key is a unique identifier that promises that the game is the real deal - and usually verifies itself with an online server, preventing the game from running or accessing multiplayer features if the same key is in use elsewhere.
It's a solution that the PC gaming industry has been using for years, but if the rumour that Sony is looking to use it as a bandage for its thoroughly broken PS3 DRM proves true, it could have one major hurdle in its path: unlike a PC, the PS3 has no keyboard.
While the PS3 is compatible with USB keyboards, and has an optional Bluetooth-connected miniature keypad accessory, many gamers rely solely on the console's controller - using the on-screen soft keyboard for those rare occasions when text entry is required.
If every game that's purchased requires the entry of a code - and, given the code's requirement for uniqueness and high entropy, they're usually around 24 alphanumeric characters in length - it could soon prove a pain for gamers.
Worse, the move would effectively kill the rental market for PS3 games - and, if Sony decides to tie each serial key to a PlayStation Network account, could even block second-hand sales.
Sony, for its part, hasn't confirmed or denied the rumours - but it will certainly have to do something to get the genie back in the bottle.
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01-22-2011, 03:42 AM
#56
MrAnonymous
Pokemon Trainer
Originally posted by 1337
If they do this, im sure someone will be able to make a homebrew app like keygens and make it into a pkg. file
CD keys stop you from playing online. That's the catch. Server checks for serial and you can't log in if it doesn't match the key on the server.
And even if the dude posted a legit key, no more than 1 person can log in with the same key at the same time, and how many are trying to use that key? He posted it on a public site so you've virtually no chance of being able to log in
If the guy was giving his game way and gave it to you privately then... But torrent sites etc are public
01-22-2011, 03:54 AM
#57
Justin
Juzzy Dee Music
Originally posted by MrAnonymous
CD keys stop you from playing online. That's the catch. Server checks for serial and you can't log in if it doesn't match the key on the server.
And even if the dude posted a legit key, no more than 1 person can log in with the same key at the same time, and how many are trying to use that key? He posted it on a public site so you've virtually no chance of being able to log in
If the guy was giving his game way and gave it to you privately then... But torrent sites etc are public
And even if the dude posted a legit key, no more than 1 person can log in with the same key at the same time, and how many are trying to use that key? He posted it on a public site so you've virtually no chance of being able to log in
If the guy was giving his game way and gave it to you privately then... But torrent sites etc are public
Okay so a massive fail by sony if they go through with this? (which hopefully they dont)
01-22-2011, 04:34 AM
#58
ProjectPartial
Simplicity.
01-22-2011, 10:25 AM
#59
izyehboy
Treasure hunter
Originally posted by seriousfear
Well if that happens there is a thing called Proxies...
There will ALWAYS be a way around to access the game + some of its online features
There will ALWAYS be a way around to access the game + some of its online features
Proxy changes ip. Now what does that have to do with a game asking a serial BEFORE showing menu? NO serial is NO MENU!
New games are built on new SDK, right? so fifa 11 and nfs:hp too, right? They got aproved. with use of serial. So sony is moving towards serials, otherwise it wouldnt be aproved and be in the SDK.
01-22-2011, 01:22 PM
#61
Romen_Xelkorta
Are you high?
Originally posted by driver
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Rumour has it that Sony is looking to the PC games market to help solve its growing piracy problem on the PlayStation 3 - with the introduction of serial keys to its games.
According to 'a very reliable source' quoted by PS3-Sense, Sony is attempting to address the recent revelation that it failed to properly secure the private signing key for its flagship console - leading to clever tinkerers producing third-party firmware that allows unofficial software and illegitimately downloaded games to run on unmodified hardware - by looking to the PC retail market for solutions.
Unlike the PS3, the PC doesn't have a hardware DRM system built in to it - despite attempts by groups like the Trusted Computing Group, formerly the Trusted Computer Platform Alliance, to introduce such a thing - relying instead on software-based DRM and a surprisingly old-fashioned guarantee of a game's uniqueness: a serial key.
Printed on the product's packaging, the key is a unique identifier that promises that the game is the real deal - and usually verifies itself with an online server, preventing the game from running or accessing multiplayer features if the same key is in use elsewhere.
It's a solution that the PC gaming industry has been using for years, but if the rumour that Sony is looking to use it as a bandage for its thoroughly broken PS3 DRM proves true, it could have one major hurdle in its path: unlike a PC, the PS3 has no keyboard.
While the PS3 is compatible with USB keyboards, and has an optional Bluetooth-connected miniature keypad accessory, many gamers rely solely on the console's controller - using the on-screen soft keyboard for those rare occasions when text entry is required.
If every game that's purchased requires the entry of a code - and, given the code's requirement for uniqueness and high entropy, they're usually around 24 alphanumeric characters in length - it could soon prove a pain for gamers.
Worse, the move would effectively kill the rental market for PS3 games - and, if Sony decides to tie each serial key to a PlayStation Network account, could even block second-hand sales.
Sony, for its part, hasn't confirmed or denied the rumours - but it will certainly have to do something to get the genie back in the bottle.
Rumour has it that Sony is looking to the PC games market to help solve its growing piracy problem on the PlayStation 3 - with the introduction of serial keys to its games.
According to 'a very reliable source' quoted by PS3-Sense, Sony is attempting to address the recent revelation that it failed to properly secure the private signing key for its flagship console - leading to clever tinkerers producing third-party firmware that allows unofficial software and illegitimately downloaded games to run on unmodified hardware - by looking to the PC retail market for solutions.
Unlike the PS3, the PC doesn't have a hardware DRM system built in to it - despite attempts by groups like the Trusted Computing Group, formerly the Trusted Computer Platform Alliance, to introduce such a thing - relying instead on software-based DRM and a surprisingly old-fashioned guarantee of a game's uniqueness: a serial key.
Printed on the product's packaging, the key is a unique identifier that promises that the game is the real deal - and usually verifies itself with an online server, preventing the game from running or accessing multiplayer features if the same key is in use elsewhere.
It's a solution that the PC gaming industry has been using for years, but if the rumour that Sony is looking to use it as a bandage for its thoroughly broken PS3 DRM proves true, it could have one major hurdle in its path: unlike a PC, the PS3 has no keyboard.
While the PS3 is compatible with USB keyboards, and has an optional Bluetooth-connected miniature keypad accessory, many gamers rely solely on the console's controller - using the on-screen soft keyboard for those rare occasions when text entry is required.
If every game that's purchased requires the entry of a code - and, given the code's requirement for uniqueness and high entropy, they're usually around 24 alphanumeric characters in length - it could soon prove a pain for gamers.
Worse, the move would effectively kill the rental market for PS3 games - and, if Sony decides to tie each serial key to a PlayStation Network account, could even block second-hand sales.
Sony, for its part, hasn't confirmed or denied the rumours - but it will certainly have to do something to get the genie back in the bottle.
I wana tell Sony to do this, a one console use CD Key, but make it so that you cant edit or move the files on the CD without the key.
---------- Post added at 09:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 AM ----------
Originally posted by ll
Fake Fake! It will kill the market! Used Market and rental Market. Sony will need to think about what they do next because they are going around sueing hackers with no backed up evidence. Sony = Fail
No, they could just make the Key so only the owner can copy and edit the files on the CD.
01-22-2011, 02:22 PM
#62
Battler624
I’m too L33T
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