Post: Rumor: Sony to Remotely Disable JailBroken PS3s, PSN Bans?
01-24-2011, 02:02 AM #1
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.



    mercury.dl.playstation.net > What's new ads 
nsx.np.dl.playstation.net > playstation store preview
nsx-e.np.dl.playstation.net > ads
(main file exchange connections)
us.np.stun.playstation.net > on boot initiates connection
ena.net.playstation.net > SSLv3 connection after above connection
dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > secondary update attempt (could force updates)
auth.np.ac.playstation.net > SSLv3 authentication server
(destination servers)
service.playstation.net (has multiple IPs if only the ip address is blocked)
(Error Reporting)
creepo.ww.hl.playstation.net (uploads crash reports etc.)


Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."



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01-24-2011, 02:34 AM #11
Nah im not trying to be a rep whore...
01-24-2011, 02:45 AM #12
Classy.
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Originally posted by Parablank View Post
No. Just no. It's our console, we can do whatever we want with it, and they certainly will NOT be bricking our consoles, not unless they want to get a lawsuit.


He sayd PSN Ban: Not Console Bricking /facepalm
And yes they can. Every1 who has a ps3 agreed to the user agreement. If u read it, it says something about that.
01-24-2011, 03:03 AM #13
This is copypasta from weeks ago. It's not going to happen. The most they could do is ban you from PSN. The PS3 is your property. If you had a computer and changed the OS from Windows to Linux, Microsoft wouldn't walk up and kick your computer in the face and break it. They take away your Windows Live features on the computer, ect. because you're not on a Windows OS, but nothing more (Yes, I know Microsoft doesn't make computers and technically it'd be HP or something like that. <_<Winky Winky.
01-24-2011, 03:15 AM #14
if they ban my ps3 arron's is gonna be pissed
01-24-2011, 03:40 AM #15
angel_of_deth
Climbing up the ladder
why do ppl even post this crap who gives a shit about rumors oh i heard this and so and so stfu if you ant got proof gtfo .. TITS or gtfo .. and i was coleader of TITS clan the real one
01-24-2011, 03:41 AM #16
Thanitos
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Originally posted by shishir View Post
Today JoyStiq (linked above) speculates that based on both a NeoGAF Tip by Mr_Brit and a Digital Foundry report Sony may be planning to remotely disable JailBroken PS3 consoles essentially banning them from PSN.

To quote: "Even if you've never signed up for a PSN account, your console will communicate with Sony servers every time it boots up.

That initial load process is used to upload error logs, download updates to the "What's New" module, and a list of recently-run applications, including any unauthorized backup manager software.

Sony has yet to ban any consoles for taking advantage of the jailbreak, but the terms and conditions of the PlayStation Network make it clear that Sony has the authority to carry them out.

Thanks to the system's constant self-reporting feature, "the company even has the means to irrevocably disable your console should it so wish," rendering affected PS3 consoles unusable, online and off. But will Sony ever use such a drastic measure? And if so, how will the hacker scene retaliate?"

From NeoGAF, to quote: "On boot the system contacts the server and uploads the play list etc. this list alone is enough to get anyone that goes online banned as it shows the bootmanger etc. has been running. Here is the list and what they do, I port sniffed this a while ago before I went online with a retail unit >.> because I am not stupid hehe.



    mercury.dl.playstation.net > What's new ads 
nsx.np.dl.playstation.net > playstation store preview
nsx-e.np.dl.playstation.net > ads
(main file exchange connections)
us.np.stun.playstation.net > on boot initiates connection
ena.net.playstation.net > SSLv3 connection after above connection
dus01.ps3.update.playstation.net > secondary update attempt (could force updates)
auth.np.ac.playstation.net > SSLv3 authentication server
(destination servers)
service.playstation.net (has multiple IPs if only the ip address is blocked)
(Error Reporting)
creepo.ww.hl.playstation.net (uploads crash reports etc.)


Almost all connections cannot just be port blocked, the port will continue to increment until it connects, you have to block the entire domains. Also a big point is that ALL computers on your network need to have these blocked not just the PS3's MAC because if you are running a proxy for example to get patches, the computer you proxy to will just allow the connections right out to the open unless all local IPs are blocked from these sites as well.

Surprising absolutely noone it looks like Sony are detecting homebrew applications meaning that everyone who went on PSN with a jailbroken console can expect to be banned eventually. This is definitely not the only way that Sony can detect jailbroken systems so we'll never truly ever know if it's going to be safe to go online. That ban may come tommorow or it may come in 6 months time but it will almost certainly eventually come."



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They cant dissable our systems, its illegal
01-24-2011, 03:47 AM #17
Stop with these rumours...your not keeping the PS3 community updated...your helping spread lies and nonsense...

There have been at least 100 threads saying different rumours...so please just STOP.
01-24-2011, 03:57 AM #18
People I know is hard for some of you to understand this but Sony can certanly ban your console (NOT BRICK JUST BAN) from using PSN. If you remember you agreed to follow the terms of service and they consider the use of CFW a violation.

Why is this so hard to understand? they own the infrastructure to provide the PSN service and they have the right to decide who uses it or not. The reality is that a lot of people is using the CFW to play pirated games online and they are just ****ing up the service.

And what's the big deal? Did you think that you were going to get all the services for free? You dont need PSN to run homebrew, do you?...

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