Post: **Rotating Skull Emblem (Theories)** - UPDATED
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02-18-2010, 10:33 PM
#1
Dopey
NGU :/
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A lot of people are posting the same theories and mixing up the emblem with the COD4 one. The COD4 one, which is shown below is obtained through the Spectre IV challenge completion:
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THIS IS NOT THE EMBLEM IN QUESTION. The emblem we're trying to unlock is this one:
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According to 402, this emblem is obtainable in the game without hacking or modding. Proof of him saying this is shown on his Twitter account as well as the pictures below:
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So now that you all know what emblem we're looking for, here are some of the THEORIES that people have thought of and proven to be wrong. Also, no one has obtained this emblem without hacking the game.
THEORIES IN THE TRASH:
Complete all Prestige challenges: FALSE. This is not the way to unlock the emblem and here is YouTube proof of someone completing all of them - [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnM-kZud2QQ"]Complete all Prestige Challenges[/ame] (Start the video at 1:05 to see proof)
Complete all Challenges in the game: FALSE. Even people who use JTAG to get all titles and emblems do not obtain the spinning skull emblem. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=510BC0Tq76k"]Complete all Challenges[/ame]
The game doesn't know the difference between hack and legit.
All Achievements Unlocked: FALSE.
100% Completion on Campaign, Spec Ops , Multiplayer (1100%): FALSE.
YouTube proof for both: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VClFA6kaMak"]Complete all achievements and trophies[/ame]
1000 AC-130 kills: FALSE. Like I said before, that unlocks the COD4 emblem. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnWtFys1fIs"]AC-130 + COD4 Spinning Emblem[/ame]
1000 Nuke kills *Not call in 1000 Nukes*: FALSE. YouTube proof: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMpUTGpG-Gk"]1000+ Nuke Kills[/ame] (Average kills with a nuke is say 6-9 per game. This would take approximately 112 nukes but if you want to be realistic and say 6 kills per game, you would call in about 167 nukes)
X amount of Days/Kills/Wins: FALSE. We have all seen the leaderboards, which is flooded with hackers that have over 100+ days of gameplay, killstreaks, or win streaks. YouTube Proof: [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei4d_pWdHHc"]X Amount of Days Played, Kills, Wins[/ame]
Get killed by an AC130 1000 times: FALSE (Thanks to You must login or register to view this content.-Thank him You must login or register to view this content.)
[ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqJLxTbTuP8]YouTube - 1000 AC130 Deaths[/ame]
Complete all HIDDEN Challenges: Hackers have pretty much found all of the hidden challenges in the game and completed them. The game doesn't consist of many hidden challenges and even if it was a hidden challenge, then modded game lobbies would unlock every challenge despite it being hidden.
So there's the few theories many of us have gone through in order to get this emblem, and thus far, we're pretty much out of luck and ideas. Hackers have looked into the .csv (game codes) to find something that may stand out, and so far the only thing they found is the following:
"level 70 and pr_marksman_ak47_4"
You have to be level 70 to unlock the AK47, unfortunately the Marksmen challenge only goes upto 3 (III), which doesn't help us at all.
It also doesn't have anything to do with any of the DLC content as 402 said that the emblem was obtainable on the PS3 way before the first DLC came out.
Post any new theories you guys have. We're going to find out how to get this emblem!
Also, please refrain from posting theories that have already been proven wrong. We need NEW ones.
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Thank you,
Dopey, rjive, and a special thanks to snoopy.
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08-14-2010, 12:18 PM
#3044
mgltg2
Grunt
Some member put a link to its logical explanation but I don't think anyone bothered to have a look at it.
So:
"...Ok so now I’ll try my best at an explanation. If it’s too long shorten it for the OP. Also play some mission impossible or oceans 11 music for this:
1. The missions gsc file monitors challenge progress during game play. It contains C++ code (see page 14 of this thread) that processes a challenge every time progress towards that challenge is made. E.g. every time you pick up a scavenger item the missions file processes ch_scavenger_pro by one pick up.
2. The processChallenge() function gets the info that progress towards a challenge has been made. This function checks the challenge progress to see if it has reached the target value.
3. To find these target values, it calls on other functions that search the allchallengestable.csv for the target and reward values. The csv file contains info on how to build a table that contains these values. Some of the cells in this table are given but others contain some random looking data (we call these DWORDs offsets).
4. Now back to the processChallenge() function. If the challenge progress is less than the target value it adds one to the progress but when it reaches the target value it displays the message that you’ve completed that challenge and saves the challenge status as complete.
5. I have not found the next part yet, but I assume that somewhere in the game files is a code monitoring challenge status. When a challenge is completed this code checks the unlocktable.csv to see what that challenge unlocks. It then unlocks that item.
Now as far as unlocking the spinning tenth emblem specifically, the unlocktable.csv states:
cardicon_prestige10_02
icon
70
ch_prestige10
pr_marksman_ak47_4
In columns A through E. Translates into: to unlock the spinning tenth emblem, which is an icon/emblem, you must be level 70 plus earn the extra xp after 70. You must also be at 10th prestige and complete the challenge prestige marksman 4 (Veteran IV) for the ak47. Then we need to know the target value for this challenge which we find in the allchallengestable.csv stating:
pr_marksman_ak47
weapon_ak47
challenge_get_n_kills
challenge_prestige_marksman
-
-
500
10000
1000
10000
2500
10000
-
-
This is saying that the prestige marksman challenges for the ak47 require the use of the ak47 gun. The challenge is completed by getting a certain number of kills and is a prestige marksman type challenge. The next two cells don’t contain data but after that the target and reward values are given, 10000 xp is rewarded for 500 kills for Veteran I, and so on. Notice that the last two values which should be Veteran IV contain no data. So if prestige marksman 4 for the ak47 does not exist then the spinning tenth emblem is not unlockable..."
So:
HERE's SUPERPAUL3000 EXPLANATION OF WHY THE EMBLEM IS NOT CURRENTLY UNLOCKABLE:
"...Ok so now I’ll try my best at an explanation. If it’s too long shorten it for the OP. Also play some mission impossible or oceans 11 music for this:
1. The missions gsc file monitors challenge progress during game play. It contains C++ code (see page 14 of this thread) that processes a challenge every time progress towards that challenge is made. E.g. every time you pick up a scavenger item the missions file processes ch_scavenger_pro by one pick up.
2. The processChallenge() function gets the info that progress towards a challenge has been made. This function checks the challenge progress to see if it has reached the target value.
3. To find these target values, it calls on other functions that search the allchallengestable.csv for the target and reward values. The csv file contains info on how to build a table that contains these values. Some of the cells in this table are given but others contain some random looking data (we call these DWORDs offsets).
4. Now back to the processChallenge() function. If the challenge progress is less than the target value it adds one to the progress but when it reaches the target value it displays the message that you’ve completed that challenge and saves the challenge status as complete.
5. I have not found the next part yet, but I assume that somewhere in the game files is a code monitoring challenge status. When a challenge is completed this code checks the unlocktable.csv to see what that challenge unlocks. It then unlocks that item.
Now as far as unlocking the spinning tenth emblem specifically, the unlocktable.csv states:
cardicon_prestige10_02
icon
70
ch_prestige10
pr_marksman_ak47_4
In columns A through E. Translates into: to unlock the spinning tenth emblem, which is an icon/emblem, you must be level 70 plus earn the extra xp after 70. You must also be at 10th prestige and complete the challenge prestige marksman 4 (Veteran IV) for the ak47. Then we need to know the target value for this challenge which we find in the allchallengestable.csv stating:
pr_marksman_ak47
weapon_ak47
challenge_get_n_kills
challenge_prestige_marksman
-
-
500
10000
1000
10000
2500
10000
-
-
This is saying that the prestige marksman challenges for the ak47 require the use of the ak47 gun. The challenge is completed by getting a certain number of kills and is a prestige marksman type challenge. The next two cells don’t contain data but after that the target and reward values are given, 10000 xp is rewarded for 500 kills for Veteran I, and so on. Notice that the last two values which should be Veteran IV contain no data. So if prestige marksman 4 for the ak47 does not exist then the spinning tenth emblem is not unlockable..."
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08-14-2010, 12:23 PM
#3045
TairyHesticles
Add Me on PSN/X-Box Live!
Originally posted by mgltg2
Some member put a link to its logical explanation but I don't think anyone bothered to have a look at it.
So:
"...Ok so now I’ll try my best at an explanation. If it’s too long shorten it for the OP. Also play some mission impossible or oceans 11 music for this:
1. The missions gsc file monitors challenge progress during game play. It contains C++ code (see page 14 of this thread) that processes a challenge every time progress towards that challenge is made. E.g. every time you pick up a scavenger item the missions file processes ch_scavenger_pro by one pick up.
2. The processChallenge() function gets the info that progress towards a challenge has been made. This function checks the challenge progress to see if it has reached the target value.
3. To find these target values, it calls on other functions that search the allchallengestable.csv for the target and reward values. The csv file contains info on how to build a table that contains these values. Some of the cells in this table are given but others contain some random looking data (we call these DWORDs offsets).
4. Now back to the processChallenge() function. If the challenge progress is less than the target value it adds one to the progress but when it reaches the target value it displays the message that you’ve completed that challenge and saves the challenge status as complete.
5. I have not found the next part yet, but I assume that somewhere in the game files is a code monitoring challenge status. When a challenge is completed this code checks the unlocktable.csv to see what that challenge unlocks. It then unlocks that item.
Now as far as unlocking the spinning tenth emblem specifically, the unlocktable.csv states:
cardicon_prestige10_02
icon
70
ch_prestige10
pr_marksman_ak47_4
In columns A through E. Translates into: to unlock the spinning tenth emblem, which is an icon/emblem, you must be level 70 plus earn the extra xp after 70. You must also be at 10th prestige and complete the challenge prestige marksman 4 (Veteran IV) for the ak47. Then we need to know the target value for this challenge which we find in the allchallengestable.csv stating:
pr_marksman_ak47
weapon_ak47
challenge_get_n_kills
challenge_prestige_marksman
-
-
500
10000
1000
10000
2500
10000
-
-
This is saying that the prestige marksman challenges for the ak47 require the use of the ak47 gun. The challenge is completed by getting a certain number of kills and is a prestige marksman type challenge. The next two cells don’t contain data but after that the target and reward values are given, 10000 xp is rewarded for 500 kills for Veteran I, and so on. Notice that the last two values which should be Veteran IV contain no data. So if prestige marksman 4 for the ak47 does not exist then the spinning tenth emblem is not unlockable..."
So:
HERE's SUPERPAUL3000 EXPLANATION OF WHY THE EMBLEM IS NOT CURRENTLY UNLOCKABLE:
"...Ok so now I’ll try my best at an explanation. If it’s too long shorten it for the OP. Also play some mission impossible or oceans 11 music for this:
1. The missions gsc file monitors challenge progress during game play. It contains C++ code (see page 14 of this thread) that processes a challenge every time progress towards that challenge is made. E.g. every time you pick up a scavenger item the missions file processes ch_scavenger_pro by one pick up.
2. The processChallenge() function gets the info that progress towards a challenge has been made. This function checks the challenge progress to see if it has reached the target value.
3. To find these target values, it calls on other functions that search the allchallengestable.csv for the target and reward values. The csv file contains info on how to build a table that contains these values. Some of the cells in this table are given but others contain some random looking data (we call these DWORDs offsets).
4. Now back to the processChallenge() function. If the challenge progress is less than the target value it adds one to the progress but when it reaches the target value it displays the message that you’ve completed that challenge and saves the challenge status as complete.
5. I have not found the next part yet, but I assume that somewhere in the game files is a code monitoring challenge status. When a challenge is completed this code checks the unlocktable.csv to see what that challenge unlocks. It then unlocks that item.
Now as far as unlocking the spinning tenth emblem specifically, the unlocktable.csv states:
cardicon_prestige10_02
icon
70
ch_prestige10
pr_marksman_ak47_4
In columns A through E. Translates into: to unlock the spinning tenth emblem, which is an icon/emblem, you must be level 70 plus earn the extra xp after 70. You must also be at 10th prestige and complete the challenge prestige marksman 4 (Veteran IV) for the ak47. Then we need to know the target value for this challenge which we find in the allchallengestable.csv stating:
pr_marksman_ak47
weapon_ak47
challenge_get_n_kills
challenge_prestige_marksman
-
-
500
10000
1000
10000
2500
10000
-
-
This is saying that the prestige marksman challenges for the ak47 require the use of the ak47 gun. The challenge is completed by getting a certain number of kills and is a prestige marksman type challenge. The next two cells don’t contain data but after that the target and reward values are given, 10000 xp is rewarded for 500 kills for Veteran I, and so on. Notice that the last two values which should be Veteran IV contain no data. So if prestige marksman 4 for the ak47 does not exist then the spinning tenth emblem is not unlockable..."
In other words, IW ****ed up the coding.
08-14-2010, 01:35 PM
#3047
Pyrochemical
Big Daddy
Dude, Infinity Ward screwed up, that is all that happened.
08-14-2010, 03:18 PM
#3048
Callisto
Monkey Gone To Heaven
Originally posted by callumbaker88
Realy wow if thats true then i must have it beaos i have 20K Javelin kills with over 11K multi kills so that is not true maybe kill 10K people that have an AK with a Javelin xD idk how to get that emblem but there is definately a way!
when i said multi-kills, i mean proper multi-kills, 4 in 1 or higher not double or triple, an actual multi-kill someone needs to test this, because it does make sense, and no ones suggested it before.
someone whos good with hacks, test this : 1000 multi-kills with a javelin. dont make the mistake callumbaker made, i mean a MULTI-KILL, not a double kill or higher... a 4 in 1 or higher, 1000 times with a javelin
If MY theory ever gets proved, dont take credit. This is my Original theory, that i came up with before we even knew it was impossible to get. some time in jaunuary i think
08-14-2010, 03:42 PM
#3049
Mw2Freak13
Climbing up the ladder
omg people if you bypass mw2 go to stinger challenges and there will be a challenge saying get 1000 multi kills with a stinger and that was the way to get the spinning skull emblem and since you couldnt get kills with a stinger they made a new patch and they ****ed up the coding for some reason.
08-14-2010, 03:54 PM
#3050
whitezombie82169
Haxor!
^ if u do javelin glitch with a stinger and kill 2 ppl will it count? i might test this out in resistance bypass split screen 
08-14-2010, 04:13 PM
#3052
Mw2Freak13
Climbing up the ladder
thats why they made a new patch because you couldnt get multi kills with stinger and that was the way to get the spinning skull emblem and infinity ward messed up the coding
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