(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Accused Scammer's NGU Name: eviljumperke
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What is the item that was bought/sold/traded?

A logo.
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Proof:
The whole conversation is in Dutch so we need someone else who can confirms this.

[18/11/2013 21:42:50] timothyy: zou de kwaliteit wat scherper kunnen en msk wat lichtere kleuren? Als het echt goed is willen we bestwel wat betalen
[18/11/2013 21:43:07] Tom.: wat is bestwel
[18/11/2013 21:43:31] timothyy: het moet dan wel supergoed zijn ea
[18/11/2013 21:43:34] timothyy: en wss rond de 20 ofso
[18/11/2013 21:43:37] timothyy: 30
[18/11/2013 21:43:52] Tom.: deal man
[18/11/2013 21:45:55] timothyy: moet dan wel echt goed zijn he
[18/11/2013 21:46:00] timothyy: veel scherper
[18/11/2013 21:46:17] timothyy: want tis wel goed maar de scherpte is heel slecht
[18/11/2013 21:47:18] Tom.: komt omdat het een lage resolutie
[18/11/2013 21:47:29] Tom.: Ik prefereer meestaal 600x400 bij logo's
[18/11/2013 21:49:11] timothyy: ja moet 250x200 zijn
[18/11/2013 21:49:19] timothyy: stipt dat dusja..
[18/11/2013 21:49:20] timothyy:
[18/11/2013 21:49:29] Tom.: zonde
[18/11/2013 21:49:43] Tom.: ;(
[18/11/2013 21:49:54] Tom.: kan ik ergens het logo zien
[18/11/2013 21:50:05] Tom.: zodat ik een beetje kan inschatten wat I kmoet veranderen?
[18/11/2013 21:50:14] timothyy: maarja bv deze is wel ook zotgoe ea en is ook 250x200 : You must login or register to view this content.
[18/11/2013 21:50:24] timothyy: en welk logo bedoel je?
[18/11/2013 21:50:52] Tom.: dat ik juist had gemaakt
[18/11/2013 21:50:55] timothyy: gwn baseren op deze anders?
[18/11/2013 21:51:15] timothyy: ow ja ben gsm dus kan moeilijk terugsturen
[18/11/2013 21:51:23] timothyy: die foto
[18/11/2013 21:53:50] Tom.: kan best zijn dat je gsm de kwaliteit verlaagd
[18/11/2013 21:54:07] timothyy: heb wel iphone
[18/11/2013 21:54:15] timothyy: dus wss niet zo zwaar verlaagd
[18/11/2013 21:54:25] timothyy: kan msk wel beetj
[18/11/2013 21:54:39] timothyy: eff die logo als skype foto doen
[18/11/2013 21:54:42] timothyy: voor aan teammate te tonen
[18/11/2013 21:55:12] Tom.: hehhe iphone ftw
[18/11/2013 21:55:29] timothyy: ja
[18/11/2013 21:55:32] timothyy: al men 4de
[18/11/2013 21:55:34] timothyy: lol
[18/11/2013 21:56:53] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo2.png Extraordinary-logo2.png ***
[18/11/2013 21:57:09] Tom.: hier heb je een zeg maar " lichtere " versie
[18/11/2013 21:57:25] Tom.: heb de text ook een beetje een mooiere plaats gegeven
[18/11/2013 21:59:22] timothyy: Die eerste was beste
[18/11/2013 21:59:39] Tom.: ok
[18/11/2013 22:01:37] timothyy: kga eff vragn
[18/11/2013 22:01:46] Tom.:
[18/11/2013 22:02:13] Tom.: ik ga effe iets uploaden
[18/11/2013 22:02:39] timothyy: ja ok
[18/11/2013 22:03:31] timothyy: zou je die eerste
[18/11/2013 22:03:42] Tom.: wat moet ik ermee doen?
[18/11/2013 22:03:44] timothyy: alles is goed
[18/11/2013 22:03:59] timothyy: maar kundj team naam centreren?
[18/11/2013 22:04:08] timothyy: snapj watk bedoel?
[18/11/2013 22:04:33] timothyy: Extraordinary moet zelfde blijvn is vet
[18/11/2013 22:04:51] timothyy: maar gwn dat het langs beide zijkanten even ver van zijkant zit snapj?
[18/11/2013 22:05:04] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo3.png Extraordinary-logo3.png ***
[18/11/2013 22:05:22] Tom.: ik ga effe iets brb
[18/11/2013 22:11:10] Tom.: yow ik ben terug
[18/11/2013 22:11:15] Tom.: wat vind je ervan?
[18/11/2013 22:11:31] timothyy: Goed maar ik bedoel
[18/11/2013 22:11:36] timothyy: De eerste is goed
[18/11/2013 22:11:41] timothyy: dat het 1 zin is
[18/11/2013 22:11:43] timothyy: woord*
[18/11/2013 22:11:52] timothyy: maar gwn dat de E meer naar link staat
[18/11/2013 22:11:52] Tom.: ok
[18/11/2013 22:12:05] timothyy: zodat het langs beide zijkanten dezelfde lengte is?
[18/11/2013 22:12:06] timothyy: Snapj?
[18/11/2013 22:12:13] timothyy: dezelfde lengte van de zijkanten
[18/11/2013 22:12:45] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo4.png Extraordinary-logo4.png ***
[18/11/2013 22:13:02] timothyy: meer naar links ?
[18/11/2013 22:13:03] timothyy:
[18/11/2013 22:13:09] timothyy: Tis meer plaats links nu van de E?
[18/11/2013 22:13:25] timothyy: Zeg maar de E evenwer van de zijkant is links als rechts
[18/11/2013 22:13:28] timothyy: gecentreerd?
[18/11/2013 22:13:29] Tom.: wow w8?
[18/11/2013 22:13:40] timothyy: wat?
[18/11/2013 22:14:23] Tom.: ik begrijp niet zo goed wat je bedoeld?
[18/11/2013 22:14:45] timothyy: Euhmm dus jhebt de foto e ?
[18/11/2013 22:14:54] Tom.: ja
[18/11/2013 22:15:00] timothyy: en het woord : Extraordinary
[18/11/2013 22:15:06] Tom.: uhu
[18/11/2013 22:15:15] timothyy: nu staat hij 1 cm van de linkse kant en 0.3 cm ofso van de rechterkant?
[18/11/2013 22:15:40] timothyy: Ik zou wilen dat hy in het midden staat? Dus eigenlijk gewoon 1 cm links en rechts snapj?
[18/11/2013 22:15:52] Tom.: en waar wil je dat ik het woord zet ?
[18/11/2013 22:15:55] timothyy: Gwn de afstand tussen de linker en rechterkant het zelfde is
[18/11/2013 22:15:59] timothyy: zelfde plaats?
[18/11/2013 22:16:13] timothyy: Gwn meer naar links? zodat het evenver links als rechts van zijkant staat
[18/11/2013 22:17:24] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo5.png Extraordinary-logo5.png ***
[18/11/2013 22:17:27] Tom.: Zo?
[18/11/2013 22:18:25] timothyy: Dus jpakt de eerste foto he?
[18/11/2013 22:18:44] timothyy: en dan gwn alles zelfde laten
[18/11/2013 22:18:54] timothyy: maar gwn de linkerkant even ver als rechter
[18/11/2013 22:18:59] timothyy: Lol moeilijk uitleggen
[18/11/2013 22:19:53] timothyy: Gwn het woord : Extraordinary beetj meer naar links verplaatsen?
[18/11/2013 22:20:03] timothyy: Niks anders?
[18/11/2013 22:20:53] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo6.png Extraordinary-logo6.png ***
[18/11/2013 22:21:04] Tom.: Nu staat normaal alles mooi in het midden
[18/11/2013 22:21:17] timothyy: jaa denk dat het dit is wat teammate bedoelt eff tonen
[18/11/2013 22:21:26] Tom.:
[18/11/2013 22:22:14] Tom.: Ik moet eigenlijk door
[18/11/2013 22:22:20] timothyy: Thankss Kspreekj morgen?
[18/11/2013 22:22:29] Tom.: wanneer kan je betalen
[18/11/2013 22:22:30] Tom.: ?
[18/11/2013 22:22:42] timothyy: We praten morgen wel door ok?
[18/11/2013 22:22:45] timothyy: Eff bespreken :0
[18/11/2013 22:22:49] Tom.: ok
[18/11/2013 22:58:13] Tom.: Hallo timothyy, ik wil u graag als contactpersoon toevoegen. Tom.


When did this happen:

Yesterday (11/19/2013)

How much?:

€ 20,00

Did you;
- Sell


Have you contacted the scammer?:

Yes

If yes, What did they say?

Nothing, because on the moment when he had to pay he blocked me.

Other comments:

Proof that he PM'd me:
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Proof that he is using the logo:
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Proof that he deleted me on Skype:
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Guys you may thinks why I am "crying" about a logo. But I putted time in this ...

First thing I want to say is : If you can read I say I maybe would pay for it? Never said : I will pay for it or something like that. + He sent me one picture for free which is the one I use + I just had his logo on team bcus I wanted to show my teammates and discuss if it was any good but they didn't like it so I got it off again.

Link of proof I deleted : You must login or register to view this content.

Why I put it on gb team? Because I was using my phone ( didn't have a pc ) and couldn't send picture through skype.

[18/11/2013 20:46:26] Tom.: wat mag dat zijn
[18/11/2013 20:46:35] Tom.: en hvl wil je ervoor betalen ?
[18/11/2013 20:46:39] Tom.: (PayPal)
[18/11/2013 20:47:00] timothyy: jkrijgt alle credits + Reclame want wij streamen alle games via twitch
[18/11/2013 20:47:17] timothyy: Moet ik bespreken en Tezien wat niveau is
[18/11/2013 20:48:37] timothyy: we dachten aan iets zoals dit :
[18/11/2013 20:48:38] timothyy: You must login or register to view this content.
[18/11/2013 20:48:55] timothyy: maar dan natuurlijk geen copy werk maar gwn de vormen enzo
[18/11/2013 20:49:25] Tom.: dat kan ik wel regelen maar er zijn veel mensen die me reclame hebben beloofd
[18/11/2013 20:49:36] Tom.: en dat is er dus nooit van gekomenµ
[18/11/2013 20:49:43] Tom.: Ik ga nu een potje
[18/11/2013 20:49:45] timothyy: Ja kan best maar jkent twitch toch wel he?
[18/11/2013 20:49:52] Tom.: League of Legends spelen
[18/11/2013 20:49:57] Tom.: ja dat ken ik ja
[18/11/2013 20:50:04] Tom.: ik ben straks terug
[18/11/2013 20:50:04] timothyy: wij streamen daar alles dujsa
[18/11/2013 20:50:08] Tom.: 30 +- min
[18/11/2013 20:50:15] timothyy: nja ok Laat me iets weten anders zoek ik iemand anders bedankt
[18/11/2013 21:10:46] Tom.: ik weet het niet
[18/11/2013 21:12:10] timothyy: nja
[18/11/2013 21:12:43] Tom.: nou ik zal het maar doen ^^
[18/11/2013 21:13:16] Tom.: maar wat moet dat 64x64 juist zijn want das redelijk klein
[18/11/2013 21:13:26] timothyy: Ja 64x64
[18/11/2013 21:13:30] timothyy: en 250x200
[18/11/2013 21:13:36] timothyy: mag zelfde zijn hoor datlgo
[18/11/2013 21:13:38] timothyy: logo*
[18/11/2013 21:14:00] timothyy: en zoiets zoals deze : You must login or register to view this content.
[18/11/2013 21:14:24] timothyy: maar gwn wat anders
[18/11/2013 21:14:39] Tom.: sgoed
[18/11/2013 21:14:53] timothyy: en met Extraordinary erop
[18/11/2013 21:15:57] Tom.: welke kleuren?
[18/11/2013 21:17:36] timothyy: blauw?
[18/11/2013 21:19:25] timothyy: als dat kan?
[18/11/2013 21:19:35] Tom.: Tuurlijk
[18/11/2013 21:22:21] timothyy: en voor de rest magje creatief zijn
[18/11/2013 21:22:48] Tom.: best
[18/11/2013 21:28:04] *** Tom. verstuurde Extraordinary-logo.png Extraordinary-logo.png ***
[18/11/2013 21:28:07] Tom.: have fun




SO if this guy thinks He has to right to start disputing on me . He needs to get his facts right! Never said I would pay? Only said I maybe would pay . I've been an elite member for over 2 years now and why would I risk ban for a simple gfx which he made in like 10 min? Because As u can see in proof the skype chat he started making it at 8pm47 and was done already at 9pm 20 + he says he was going to do a LOL ( League of Legends game first so I bet he has put a lot of effort in it . )

Don't crap me man. Get facts right next time.

Eviljumperke

Not to mention this were his last message's


Ik moet eigenlijk door
[18/11/2013 22:22:20] timothyy: Thankss Kspreekj morgen?
[18/11/2013 22:22:29] Tom.: wanneer kan je betalen
[18/11/2013 22:22:30] Tom.: ?
[18/11/2013 22:22:42] timothyy: We praten morgen wel door ok?
[18/11/2013 22:22:45] timothyy: Eff bespreken :0
[18/11/2013 22:22:49] Tom.: ok
From here he deleted me.

Translated:

[18/11/2013 22:22:20] timothyy: Thanks I'll speak you tommorow?
[18/11/2013 22:22:29] Tom.: When are you going to pay?
[18/11/2013 22:22:30] Tom.: ?
[18/11/2013 22:22:42] timothyy: I'll will talk about tomorrow with you ok?
[18/11/2013 22:22:45] timothyy: I'll need to talk about that with my team:0
[18/11/2013 22:22:49] Tom.: ok

From here he deleted me.

Now he is flaming at Skype on me that I am stupid etc.

You can put as many skype copies in this thread as you want but Where is the proof where I said : I will pay 20 euros ? Did we ever bring negotiating to an end and reached an agreement? No , So I don't know whatever you're trying to win with this but anyone with an IQ more than 20 would understand that :

1. A deal has never properly been made , not said I would pay just said what I maybe would pay if I liked your logo which I obviously don't because I don't use it .

2. I also think every NGU admin , mod and even a member would understand that A deal is made when someone says : I will pay 20 euro's for your logo for Example which I didn't do. I only said : you will get all credits for it if we use it. + then I said IF it is any good I will maybe pay for it If I would like to keep using it and if my team likes it.




3. Btw if I would've had really scammed him would he say this ? :

[20:13:36] Tom.: Haha
[20:13:42] timothyy: + Waarom zou ik je niet verwijderen als we geen deal hadden?
[20:13:52] Tom.: dit is zo grappig
[20:13:58] timothyy: wat is er grappig?

English :

[20:13:36] Tom.: Haha
[20:13:42] timothyy: + why wouldn't I delete you ? We didn't even had a deal?
[20:13:52] Tom.: This is so funny
[20:13:58] timothyy: whats' funny?

Eviljumperke.

Here we made the "deal".

[18/11/2013 21:42:50] timothyy: zou de kwaliteit wat scherper kunnen en msk wat lichtere kleuren? Als het echt goed is willen we bestwel wat betalen
[18/11/2013 21:43:07] Tom.: wat is bestwel
[18/11/2013 21:43:31] timothyy: het moet dan wel supergoed zijn ea
[18/11/2013 21:43:34] timothyy: en wss rond de 20 ofso
[18/11/2013 21:43:37] timothyy: 30
[18/11/2013 21:43:52] Tom.: deal man

Translated:

[18/11/2013 21:42:50] timothyy: Can you make the quality of the logo a bit better and maybe some lighter colors? If it's good, then I am willing to pay for your logo
[18/11/2013 21:43:07] Tom.: What's good?
[18/11/2013 21:43:31] timothyy: I have to be super nice then.
[18/11/2013 21:43:34] timothyy: And I'll pay you then €20 or
[18/11/2013 21:43:37] timothyy: €30
[18/11/2013 21:43:52] Tom.: deal man


I don't know what you mean dude?