Post: Probation Penalty: How does Treyarch differentiate?
11-15-2012, 04:10 AM #1
Da_Pacifist
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1. Getting kicked from server
2. Losing connection to host
3. Losing connection to Xbox Live/PSN unintentionally (ie internet connection dying out?)
4. Xbox/PS3 freezing (ie hard freeze)


I'm not against the probation penalty in theory but it shouldn't be there if the servers can't differentiate? Besides, arguably, it still isn't going to stop people from rage quitting or dashboarding anyways. I don't play Halo but my brother tells me that on Halo Reach people rage quit and dashboard regardless despite the probation penalty Bungie implemented and 343 decided it wasn't worth it for Halo 4.

From what I'm told, the servers currently can't tell the difference and people on the PS3 (which is a mess right now) are getting probation from getting kicked, the PS3 hard freezing, losing connection, etc?

Also, what about people not wanting to stay in games they spawn into because

1. Extreme Lag
2. It is a spawn kill fest.
3. The match is almost over and they don't want free loss.

As far as I'm aware, in Black Ops (1), you received a loss for leaving a match you spawned into mid-match or chose not to spawn into and waited to get kicked from server. Even if you quit as you saw the match was not worth spawning into, you received loss even if you didn't spawn.

Do you get probation for quitting matches despite not dashboarding/signing out?


Last Question: How do you post on the official Cod forums? I couldn't for the life of me figure it out. This probation thing has me worried because I have pretty shit internet connection (the router is downstairs) and I'm upstairs and I tend to lose connection a lot and consistently get kicked from games and if the game doesn't differentiate between the two, I'll be screwed.
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11-15-2012, 08:20 PM #11
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Originally posted by amplif1er View Post
Your whole post is invalid and pointless you clearly state you're not even sure how they detect and ban you. If you don't like getting thrown into a game almost over my suggestion would be to play with a party.


I already confirmed how they detect you. Any type of disconnect whether intentional (dashboard/signing out) or not (server kick, losing connection to host, system freeze, etc.) or simply quitting/leaving matches mid-match.

Also, I shouldn't be forced to play in parties to not spawn mid-match. Besides, you still often spawn mid-match unless you're in a full party with 6 people. I do occasionally but tend to stick to mercenary where you still spawn mid-match into games almost over or with no hope of return.
11-17-2012, 02:41 AM #12
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Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
Quiting does not put you into the group. I test it later Smile (not sure 100%)
As for your connection a couple of things you can I send you a PM later on it.

Posting on the forums if you have a old account and no reply button you need to make a new account to post. It a bug which they know about.


I think it does unfortunately. Quitting to the main menu 3+ times within a hour (ie rage quitting) puts you on probation too from what I've seen based on people's posts on the official forums. This probation penalty hurts more players than it does preventing dashboarders/rage quitters leaving. The fact is they will keep leaving while everyone else gets probation too for losing connection, host migration kicks, system freezes, unintentional connection interruptions. etc.

Also, thanks for the info. I did that and it worked out. ^_^
11-18-2012, 11:34 AM #13
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Originally posted by gt
I had probation 3 times the other day and the time does increase, the second probation was definitely longer than the first and the game was back in it's case when I got the third so don't if it increased again. Also my win % sucks because of this, it's like 24% and that is bull s**t, out of all the games i have played to the end I have won at least 70% the rest I lost connection or kicked from servers.


I can confirm you're right. The one thing that pisses me off is that you still get a loss if you are placed into a spawn kill, rape fest, beatdown and you decide not to spawn and either quit out or wait for the server to kick you. I play solo a lot and my W/L is negative because of this.

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