This thread seems less about Teryarch not being money whores and more about you saying how Treyarch are great people and Infinity Ward are the devil. Being a business doesn't make being money whores any better. I could argue Infinity Ward's poor track record with post release support is because they are a business. Treyarch aren't thieves. They could be smart businessman that found ways to get extra money out of the consumer. Doesn't make it a bad thing, but also doesn't mean since they support their game they are entitled to charge. I would honestly be more on board with you if this didn't just feel like a glorified 3arc > IW thread lol.



You're calling people an idiot and saying they are shit at a game yet you're not smart enough to just use Tac Mask, Flak Jacket or Engineer to deal with shock charges and betties(which you can just go prone on to avoid)? Black Ops 2 does not promote camping just because a few things are available to aid in camping. Target Finder is purely for fucking noobs. However, an argument could be made that Target Finder helps you shoot in buildings to weed campers out. Shock Charges could be used to hold down objectives. Honestly if you've played as many CODs as you claim you'd know campers are easy to stop ESPECIALLY on BO2 since Ghost doesn't keep you off radar if you're camping, the maps are small and each room has multiple ways to flank or throw C4 in the window.

If the game is easy then why are you complaining at all? Just for the sake of doing so? Kill Confirmed, caputuring flags in Domination, using Ghost with Suppressor, C4 promote encourage moving. People shouldn't be forced to be rushers. Honestly when I play solo I get the bad teammates who think moving around the map quick scoping is rushing. Moving around the map doesn't make someone good, it's how effective they are at it. Just like sports games shouldn't force someone to pick weaker teams online. Good players will usually own poorer players. So if a camper goes 40-2, obviously the enemy wasn't very good. If a rusher goes 3-20, then obviously he just sucks. I think being aggressive is the way to play and if you're good at that and get a decent connection in BO2 you will own people playing tht way. Even Target Finder noobs trying to headglitch down a damn hallway.

Camping is such an overrated complaint because there are plenty of little bitches camping in rooms who go negative and get owned by good rushers. There are also plenty of rushers who have terrible reflexes, use the wrong weapons in the wrong situations, literally stare at their mini map and can't deal with campers. If you're good you will be good regardless of what others do. CApturing objectives and being aggressive is the best way to play BO2, but that doesn't mean every person is gonna do that or even be a BO2. MW2 is my favorite COD but that game rewarded camping way more than BO2 does. BO2 rewards objective killwhoress more than anything. I always have on my Tac Mask class and play with friends to avoid playing with slow paced campers and also terrible rushers who run aimlessly with poor reflexes just giving the enemy killstreaks.



The game is balanced. SMGs are the dominant class but this is the first COD game where this is the case. Assault Rifles have historically been the dominate class in every other COD game. MW3 was pretty close since you could beast with SMGs pretty much like you could with AR. Everything in Black Ops 2 has a counter for the most part. It's a very balanced game at it's core. How people play the game is a different story. I have a B flag class that has Flak Jacket, Hard Wired, and Tac Mask. It's annoying as shit having to deal with people literally just chucking nades and shock charges and stuns but technically I can counter it. I feel you though but BO2 is pretty balanced as far as COD games go. I'd argue the most balanced.

Although balance doesn't make a game good or bad in my opinion, balanced is usually just a term players use as an excuse. People complaining about camping is honestly the reasons SMGs are so good. They made the maps smaller, and objectives more rewarding to promote movement. A bitchy community is why the game is the way it is. And we're still not happy sadly lol. How useless knifing can be is an example, I'd imagine that was to deal with panic knife aka enemy as quicker reflexes complaints. They tried to appease quick scopers and shotgun guys too. The connections on the game is truly the biggest flaw. The game is pretty balanced otherwise and dealing with campers in this game is as easy as COD gets. Also there are no death streaks and Support Strike package so I am praise the Lawd for that lmao.

I agree with you... My main focus wasn't on the ARs being second to SMGs. It was a factor, but I just have to learn to change my playing style and maybe incorporate some SMGs.. I think my problem is I got so used to MW2, I would rock an M16 with a load-out that seen kills @ around 3-5 bullets. I have always rode a line between camper and rusher. I kind of know when to hold and when to push. But you do make some good points, as has the OP; so I take what I said back, it is the most balanced cod to date... I just feel that it's not my cup of tea @ the moment and I can either drink it or grab something else. I've done my part to try to not bitch about the games lesser issues and focus on the larger issues such as the connection based issues.

I knifed someone from the front really close ended up they killed me instead? Yep. Atta be Treyarch.