Post: Black Ops Shows Treyarch Destroys Infinity Ward
11-28-2010, 04:37 AM #1
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Black Ops is receiving a lot of hate from gamers who seemingly refuse to even try the game. Is there legit reasoning behind this hate or is this the fallout of the disappointment known as Modern Warfare 2? In what was surely one of the biggest hype campaigns of all time, we were told COD 6 would be the FPS to end all other FPS titles. Instead, come November we were met with COD 4.5 and it seemed even worse than COD 4 to many folks due to its balancing and hacking issues. Many gamers predicted MW2 would be like this, but most of their complaints and the signs they pointed out were ignored by the bigger crowds. Black Ops is selling great, don't doubt that. But it would seem that group of pre-release doubters has grown and saw fit to label Black Ops a terrible game, without even playing it.

The truth is Black Ops multiplayer does more right than it does wrong. Simply put, the game is great! With the new COD points and Wager matches in multiplayer it is clear there has been more thought put into this game than all the previous COD games combined.

From Sharpshooter where every player starts off with the same weapon and battles it out for points as everyone's weapon cycles at the same time to One in the Chamber where you get a pistol and a bullet. In One in the Chamber you must get a kill to get another bullet and there are only three lives for each person. Gun Game is another greatly designed Wager match that adds a lot of creativity to the title by challenging every player to start off with a pistol and work their way up a universal tier of weapons. Each kill you get bumps you up a notch to a new gun. They get better and better as you go but if you die you must start over.

For those who say Infinity Ward would have done a better job, simply put - you are insane. Take a look at the generic approach taken in the first Modern Warfare title and the incredibly dull follow up Modern Warfare 2 and I don't think it's hard to see that IW preferred coasting rather than setting goals for themselves and implementing additions to the COD brand.

The real issue I see with Call of Duty: Black Ops is that it should have gone even further with innovation. The problem with that is whenever gamers get used to a game, change of the formula is usually met with disdain by their fans. I think Treyarch has absolutely succeeded in bringing change to Black Ops without upsetting the style and fundamentals of the game, but rather improving it.


Just saying, Black Ops wouldn't be anywhere today without MW2 or IW. Also, please don't forget to reward me if I helped or informed you.

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11-28-2010, 04:37 AM #2
lilnatsfan44
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Modern Warfare 2 was a great game. It just had some really annoying flaws at times, which were exploited by people. This is way too biased. All this article says is Modern Warfare 2 was bad and Black Ops is amazing because they added Wager Matches. Really. Black Ops is a great game, but so is Modern Warfare 2. I may not think that Infinity Ward or Treyarch is better, but someone who likes Infinity Ward more is not insane and Modern Warfare 2 definitely isn't dull at all.

Remember, Modern Warfare 2 had to be made for Black Ops to be great. Cod4 had to be made for the series to boom. Infinity Ward is a huge contributor to the success of Call of Duty. Create-A-Class and perks were created by Infinity Ward.



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11-28-2010, 04:45 AM #3
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Honestly, if IW didn't create MW2. Black Ops would not be as great as it is now (excluding a little certain rc car).

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11-28-2010, 04:48 AM #4
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Originally posted by dragonspx View Post
Honestly, if IW didn't create MW2. Black Ops would not be as great as it is now (excluding a little certain rc car).


Very true, if CoD4 wasn't made by IW CoD wouldn't be CoD, CoD4 originated the Perks and Classes system. So, in the end I give props to IW, they're games are always the guinea pigs, Treyarch sees what they did wrong and improves on it.

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Originally posted by lilnatsfan44 View Post
Modern Warfare 2 was a great game. It just had some really annoying flaws at times, which were exploited by people. This is way too biased. All this article says is Modern Warfare 2 was bad and Black Ops is amazing because they added Wager Matches. Really. Black Ops is a great game, but so is Modern Warfare 2. I may not think that Infinity Ward or Treyarch is better, but someone who likes Infinity Ward more is not insane and Modern Warfare 2 definitely isn't dull at all.


Had very few flaws, that were exploited very often. MW2 went down hill as soon as the hacking scene kicked in.
11-28-2010, 04:50 AM #5
lilnatsfan44
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Originally posted by toughniko31HD View Post
Very true, if CoD4 wasn't made by IW CoD wouldn't be CoD, CoD4 originated the Perks and Classes system. So, in the end I give props to IW, they're games are always the guinea pigs, Treyarch sees what they did wrong and improves on it.


EXACTLY. Treyarch adds very little things, and just cleans up the flaws of the previous games.





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11-28-2010, 05:25 AM #6
.Nik
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Originally posted by lilnatsfan44 View Post
Modern Warfare 2 was a great game. It just had some really annoying flaws at times, which were exploited by people. This is way too biased. All this article says is Modern Warfare 2 was bad and Black Ops is amazing because they added Wager Matches. Really. Black Ops is a great game, but so is Modern Warfare 2. I may not think that Infinity Ward or Treyarch is better, but someone who likes Infinity Ward more is not insane and Modern Warfare 2 definitely isn't dull at all.

Remember, Modern Warfare 2 had to be made for Black Ops to be great. Cod4 had to be made for the series to boom. Infinity Ward is a huge contributor to the success of Call of Duty. Create-A-Class and perks were created by Infinity Ward.



Bottom Line: Go **** yourself <3

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11-28-2010, 05:40 AM #7
.Illuminati.
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my opinion aint much, I personally have liked all call of duty titles, but the majority of people i met that arent buying black ops, arent buying it because they prefer mw2. Especially seeing as the hacking that "ruined" mw2 made it possible to play Gun Game, One In the Chamber and such without the need of BO.
11-28-2010, 05:58 AM #8
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Originally posted by TheBearJew6 View Post
my opinion aint much, I personally have liked all call of duty titles, but the majority of people i met that arent buying black ops, arent buying it because they prefer mw2. Especially seeing as the hacking that "ruined" mw2 made it possible to play Gun Game, One In the Chamber and such without the need of BO.


That is certainly true. Without hacking, the world would be shit. Have you ever played the campaign in MW2? The one mission with Burger Town and shit, well you have to use the laser to guide the BTR to shoot the enemies, IW got the idea from hacking in CoD4.
11-28-2010, 06:36 AM #9
as far as games goes, in my opinion. Treyarch bases their game play too much on what gamers want and meanwhile infinity does their own thing with the additional here and there help from the community. But there is a trend that treyarch has which is TERRIBLE SERVER HOSTING, now not everyone may agree on this cause my 360 friend says when he plays the server is running well and there is no lag meanwhile in PS3 servers is ****ed as hell, meaning your party gets disband, i get kicked out most of the time when a game starts meanwhile the rest of my friends goes in the game. Comparing to MW2 and cod4 they had the best connection and most of these things never happens, meanwhile in WAW and BO you get them. Well my point is that to enjoy a game you must have decent connection to the server. Cause LAG is a bitch. (also this happens to me not only at my own house, but friends, and when i visit my aunt @ texas.)

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11-28-2010, 06:43 AM #10
.Nik
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Originally posted by shockz02 View Post
as far as games goes, in my opinion. Treyarch bases their game play too much on what gamers want and meanwhile infinity does their own thing with the additional here and there help from the community. But there is a trend that treyarch has which is TERRIBLE SERVER HOSTING, now not everyone may agree on this cause my 360 friend says when he plays the server is running well and there is no lag meanwhile in PS3 servers is ****ed as hell, meaning your party gets disband, i get kicked out most of the time when a game starts meanwhile the rest of my friends goes in the game. Comparing to MW2 and cod4 they had the best connection and most of these things never happens, meanwhile in WAW and BO you get them. Well my point is that to enjoy a game you must have decent connection to the server. Cause LAG is a bitch. (also this happens to me not only at my own house, but friends, and when i visit my aunt @ texas.)


Yes, but this is up to Activision to get a better server. Everything else is agreed on.

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