Post: Does Treyarch Hate People With Skill and Experience When It Comes To Cod?
12-28-2010, 06:04 PM #1
lilnatsfan44
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They took out so many things that people who have skill and previous experience with Cod usually use. For starters, they took out the double tap Y (or Triangle for PS3) trick when you're reloading to make it so you aren't reloading anymore. Why take that out? Cod's controls are supposed to feel free and make you feel like you can do anything.

Next, they made listening to other players' footsteps almost impossible, even if you have an expensive gaming headset. If you spend the money to buy an expensive product for gaming, then you should get your money's worth. Also, the almost silent footsteps make Ninja an almost useless perk.

Treyarch also made it so that Challenges don't unlock anything (except pro perks...). This allows people who have no skill whatsoever to buy the best attachments and camo for their gun. If this isn't "noob friendly", then what is? People should have to earn everything. It's not fair that people with real skill can't show off their gun. And if they think "Oh we just want to prevent boosting", that's stupid becuase they already have a really uptight banning system (thanks Treyarch?).

Drop Shotting. We all know dive to prone was made only to help stop drop shotting. Drop shotting is a technique used by many experienced Cod players. Treyarch added dive to prone to stop these people from using their skill because they think it is "unfair". Well. . . if they are trying to make a VIDEO GAME realistic :carling:, it would make sense to keep this in right? It seems that they are trying to make a game more and more realistic. Well in a real war, if I see people, I'm dropping straight to the ground.



Next on my list is. . . quick scoping. Yeah. Quickscoping has been in Call of Duty ever since day one. It is the thing that people could do in private matches for hours and hours. People learned how to quickscope, they practiced, they practiced even more, and they got good enough to use it in a real game. It was great; it was a part of Cod. But. . . Treyarch on the other hand thinks it would make new players have a disadvantage (. . . umm all new players have a disadvantage). They took out Sleight of Hand pro for snipers. . . and they should have stopped there and maybe give snipers an exclusive Sleight of Hand Pro perk. They also think people who can't do it (JD_2020) would have a disadvantage. Well. . . to be honest, quickscoping is a skill that builds up over time. Also, quickscopers actually have a disadvantage. If they miss the first shot, they're dead. If they get a hit marker, they're dead. If the other guy has last stand, they're probably dead. Treyarch should leave huge decisions about quickscoping to Infinity Ward, the better developing company of the two.

So overall, Treyarch took many tricks and tactics out of their game used by many people with skill to make the game easier for people who are new to Call of Duty. Now before you guys comment and say "go play a different Cod", well I am. I'm playing Cod4. I only made this thread to stick up for people who have been playing this game for a damn long time (since Cod4 and under). At least Infinity Ward knows it's a video game and not real life. I think it's funny that Treyarch has Nazi Zombies and a guy who was "programmed" in their game, and they are trying to be realistic. Treyarch just doesn't like people who have skill. What do you guys think?
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12-28-2010, 07:20 PM #11
LegitKidd
Vault dweller
Yes, I've found footsteps to be a bit harder, but with my PX21's I hear pretty much everything close to me, and know where they're coming from.
12-28-2010, 07:35 PM #12
Montealvo_0
KILL WITHOUT MERCY
I honestly lost interest, because i have no challenges. All titles are equal all camos are equal. Headshots are meaningless. I can't brag about my skill, since my title is a teddy bear. Lag is horrible at times i shoot the enemy before him and i waste my whole clip and he turns around and 2 bullets i'm dead. I found call of duty 4 graphics better. Black ops has brought COD to it death. Im a veteran and the noobs will never have the same experience as us, we will still rape them. Their noobs they shoot their own team mates. No game is noob friendly, BS this game is pathetic i'm glad i sign the petition for a refund. This games was poorly built for the PS3 no damn patch can fix this crappy ass game. Drop shot, QS R.I.P

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12-28-2010, 07:48 PM #13
.Joee
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They aren't really making it easier for the newfags like in previous cods, So they can't really make it piss easy for the experienced players. In all fairness Black Ops is doing well.
12-28-2010, 11:38 PM #14
fergride
Do a barrel roll!
for the record, people drop shot ALL the time on black ops, dive to prone didn't prevent crap. Personally I think dropshoting is a bitch move. Sure this is used by more experienced gamers, but so is jumping around a corner to shoot someone. You wanna talk realistic, i guarantee our marines don't jump around corners and shoot people. I love black ops and have max prestiged every other COD game. They just need to fix the connection errors and they need to learn to detect lag switchers and perma ban anyone cheating.
12-29-2010, 12:11 AM #15
Press ►
am r supr fgt
Black Ops is nice and all, but I sorta liked the 'cheapness' because it's skill you need to perform it ( talkin bout QS, dropshot, not camping :P ). I'm not sure if there is anymore meaning to final killcams since you can't display much skill with quickscoping, but that's just my opinion although you can perform 360's..
12-29-2010, 12:24 AM #16
Nothing absolutely nothing in MW2 took skill. Nothing.

Black Ops is much much better for skilled players,
Killstreaks don't stack.
making it so much harder for the newer, or more casual gamers to reach high kill streaks.
User controlled kill streaks... this way you don't just press a button and automatically get kills, you still have to work to get kills.

Quickscoping... is not skill.
Originally posted by Pinchanzee
It was NOT designed into the game. They did design an aim-helping system, designed to move your aim slightly more towards your target when you aim down your sights. But quickscopers abuse it's range and fool the system to doing all the work for them. It's just cheap, really.
If they want to get rid of Quickscoping, they can only really do it by taking out that system, and if they do see it necessary, it'll make the aiming harder for everyone, thus making the game less rewarding for everyone. So I see it as pretty selfish. And mostly just wow-look-at-the-cool-thing-I-can-do imature gaming.


Graphics.
Are better, most people don't think they are better because its not all colourful and bright like in MW2, but in Black Ops it is a lot more like a war scene, buildings falling apart, and stuff. Its a lot better than all the previous CODs it just doesn't feel like it is to people who don't have a clue what they are talking about because it isn't colourful and they try to suck people's cock and follow people like a flock of sheep.

Dropshotting isn't gone, I do it all the time.

I have TurtleBeachs and they work wonders, I can hear the enemy perfectly with or without Ninja/Pro.

What most this forum think is skill such as quickscoping isn't skill. Regardless of whether you can do it or not. Read the sentence in my signature.

COD4 took a lot of skill, most things did anyway but as for 5 and 6 very little skill, and no skill in MW2.
Black Ops requires thought, fair enough some people think its bland or boring mainly because challenges are useless and you can unlock everything really fast. But regardless of that, to do well in a game actually takes thinking and concentration.
Any gun can beat any gun, its just who starts shooting first and who aims higher.
Perks are really really well placed, making it quite harder to pick good ones instead of just the usual Sleight of Hand, Stopping Power, Ninja of previous CODs.
Many many different routes to each objective, and interactive maps make it change a lot, a skilled player will know the map and use these interactions to their advantage when playing or defending an objective. That is what skill is giving yourself the advantage over enemies by stuff such as dropshotting, or using the interactive maps to give you an advantage over the enemy not some stupid quickscoping move, or fancy double tapping Y.
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12-29-2010, 12:47 AM #17
Raven309
Do a barrel roll!
Did you forget that IW put Painkiller, Martyrdom, Juggernaut, Stopping Power, Danger Close, One Man Army Grenade Launchers, and COMMANDO into their games.

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12-29-2010, 01:01 AM #18
Encopresis
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A remake of CoD4 is what I want.

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Also, I can agree to a certain extent, but I believe Treyarch wanted to make a fun game more so than a skillful game and thats exactly why I like the game, I play to have fun and that is exactly what I do!

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12-29-2010, 01:13 AM #19
dragonspx
Bounty hunter
My face when they took out double tap Y or Triangle
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