Post: the ak74u ITSELF is not overpowered
01-04-2011, 10:18 AM #1
PhantomRenegade
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the AK74u in call of duty black ops represents the gun in real life called the AKS74U (they mistyped it).

the AKS74U is a shortened version of the AK74 (a newer and replacement model of the AK47)

they took the AK74 and shortened its barrel and made the stock into a slightly smaller metal version. the purpose was to make the Assault rifle a little more smaller for easier use in suburban missions.

think about it like a shotgun, if you saw off the end of its barrel you make it smaller but it does not become a pistol now, it still will blast your stomach open and it is still a shotgun.

SO in Black ops all the SMG's are balanced BUT the AK74U is misplaced into that section, giving it more fire power, bigger clip then most of them, great iron sights, and the mobility it should not have. if that was not bad enough, it gave it two attachments which make it over powered. the grip is a very uncommon used attachments on AK weaponry in real life, but used in the game give it very little recoil, which knowning from experience in shooting an AK47, is less recoil shown then it should. Yes giving a grip to it in real life will reduce sway and recoil BUT not close to the amount it is shown in the game. also the rapid fire attachment doesn't exist in real life for the AK74U. which makes the gun shoot 1000RPM which is higher then any other assault riffle.

also an attempt to make the AK74u look more like an smg, black ops removed the stock from the weapon. here is a picture of an AKS74U looking how it should look.

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finally, if treyarch wants to call their game a "balanced" cod game. all they have to do is make a simple change. remove the grip and rapid fire attachment from the AK74U, place it with the Assault rifles and give it the proper mobility that it should get as an Assault rifle. and if possible but highly unlikely since i don't think you can do this with a patch, give it a flamethrower and masterkey attachment in replacement seeing how it is an assault rifle and has the capability for underbarel attachments (note the grenade launcher attachment, proving my point further that it isnt an SMG, seeing how no other gun in the smg class has underbarrel attachments)

by doing that smg class will be balanced and you will see more people use other smg's while having the AK74u in its rightful place with its rightful and balanced attributes.

ps. the difference between the smg class and AR class is that AR's are overall better weapons in range and strength and sometimes accuracy then smgs.
but smgs are givin 4 perks, yes thats right 4 perks.

if i have an AR class with perk 1 as lightweight i get the mobility of an smg class with perk 1 set to anything other then lightweight.

so basically the perk system on a smg class in comparison to an AR class is:
Perk1,Perk2,Perk3 (and hidden extra perk4 which is set to lightweight)

so if you understand what im getting at, and want to try the AK74U in the solution i propose, go to offline LAN game, add computer bots, set ur primary as AK74U (attachments can be anything but grip and/or rapid fire), secondary doesnt matter, equipment and stuff doesnt matter, perk1 should be disabled (which makes it= to the AK74u in the assault rifle class with perk1 set to lightweight) perk 2 can be anything and perk 3 can be anything. play a match and you will notice that it isn't as effective like it you used but still a great gun and is actually balanced and can not be complained in this form (the form it should have been in)

edit: here is a vid of someone shooting an AKS74 with grip. notice the recoil
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and here is an AKS74U being shot, again notice the recoil (so if you apply the first video to this, putting a grip on it doesn't make it close to what it is like in black ops)
also don't use the excuse "hurr durr shes a women and doesn't have strength and know how to shoot" because her form is excellent and she does look like she knows how

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01-08-2011, 04:32 AM #47
ty2050
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Originally posted by Tali View Post
i get like 15 megabits a second and have a Nat type open, i never have lag in any other game but on black ops i all ways get 3 bars, never 4.


That cause u have high ping.
It doesn't matter how fast ur net is u can play black ops on dial up and not lag it's how close u are to the host In real life if the host is next door ur gonna have a super fast ping if he is in a different state or country ur ping is gonna drop.
For example I live in Australia In a town the about 120km from Brisbane and i have about the 46 ms ping to a Brisbane server.
But this is not always the case because Japan is about 20x further then that but i have a 82ms ping. It depends on the server aswell.
P.S Australia has some of the slowest internet in the world so anyone complaining about high pings u should stop ur bitching and live here but instead of crying here we just become more skillful.
01-08-2011, 04:45 AM #48
DiXiEnOrMoUz28
A.K.A Daboss1288
this has absolutely nothing to do with the game considering in every call of duty the ak 74u has been in its been an smg and was always really strong. It doesnt matter about real life in the game i guess its overpowered idk i dont relly care lol.
01-08-2011, 09:19 AM #49
PhantomRenegade
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Originally posted by ty2050 View Post
That cause u have high ping.
It doesn't matter how fast ur net is u can play black ops on dial up and not lag it's how close u are to the host In real life if the host is next door ur gonna have a super fast ping if he is in a different state or country ur ping is gonna drop.
For example I live in Australia In a town the about 120km from Brisbane and i have about the 46 ms ping to a Brisbane server.
But this is not always the case because Japan is about 20x further then that but i have a 82ms ping. It depends on the server aswell.
P.S Australia has some of the slowest internet in the world so anyone complaining about high pings u should stop ur bitching and live here but instead of crying here we just become more skillful.


see the problem about your theory is i set my game type to LOCAL ONLY so i only play games within my country.
01-08-2011, 01:12 PM #50
ty2050
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Originally posted by Tali View Post
see the problem about your theory is i set my game type to LOCAL ONLY so i only play games within my country.


Then wat country are you in and if u download is 15mbits u should have very nice servers out there are u close or far from a city/alot of people.
01-08-2011, 02:02 PM #51
PhantomRenegade
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Originally posted by ty2050 View Post
Then wat country are you in and if u download is 15mbits u should have very nice servers out there are u close or far from a city/alot of people.


canada, toronto specificaly, ive never had a problem with lag in any other game, when i play street fighter for example and set it to local, all the canadian players have full green connections, even when i dont put it to local, most americans and some european countrys have full green or atleast one bar under.
01-09-2011, 11:08 AM #52
ty2050
I am error
Originally posted by Tali View Post
canada, toronto specificaly, ive never had a problem with lag in any other game, when i play street fighter for example and set it to local, all the canadian players have full green connections, even when i dont put it to local, most americans and some european countrys have full green or atleast one bar under.


Dam, well that much suck for you i don't know much about Canadian internet or what kinda hardware they use but if i new more about it i would try to help more sorry another thing u could try is You must login or register to view this content. and run a test at it's recommended sever you should have a 50> ping if it is over it could have something to do with you but also I've heard storys of people having high ping because of there internet provider or even something out of there control so maybe there is nothing u can do. Also there was another post on this topic about del anyone on ur friends list u dont talk to or play with and del all ur messages and ur sent messages this will make u lag a lot less.
01-09-2011, 11:12 AM #53
PhantomRenegade
PS3 hacking is dead
Originally posted by ty2050 View Post
Dam, well that much suck for you i don't know much about Canadian internet or what kinda hardware they use but if i new more about it i would try to help more sorry another thing u could try is You must login or register to view this content. and run a test at it's recommended sever you should have a 50> ping if it is over it could have something to do with you but also I've heard storys of people having high ping because of there internet provider or even something out of there control so maybe there is nothing u can do. Also there was another post on this topic about del anyone on ur friends list u dont talk to or play with and del all ur messages and ur sent messages this will make u lag a lot less.



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there you go, i believe i should have no problems with any online game, but i only do with black ops like alot of people.
01-09-2011, 12:02 PM #54
ty2050
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Originally posted by Tali View Post
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there you go, i believe i should have no problems with any online game, but i only do with black ops like alot of people.


Well that is very strange i don't seem to have anything wrong with my connection any maybe that is because 90% of the time when i play I'm host. but we better stop or might get in trouble for post boosting as i've read in some other post sorry i couldn't help.
01-09-2011, 12:06 PM #55
ImSoFresh
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good job man, very detailed.

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