Post: What is your view on "camping"?
03-08-2011, 04:11 PM #1
Soldier.
The Legend
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Originally posted by another user
Tactical guide to CAMPING

Centralized Ambush Mobile Personel

In my experience this is the best all around camping outfit and strategy.

Perk 1 = flak jacket to start with then sometimes change to ghost if they get a lot of spyplanes and black birds up

Perk 2 = sleight of hand; warlord isn't a bad option either especially if you use with a submachine gun

Perk 3 = 2nd chance; don't waiste this slot on ninja or marathon because you won't be moving around that much

primary weapon Aug w/ silencer

secondary CZ75 w/ silencer

frag grenades; decoy grenades and motion sensor

killstreaks spy plane; sentry gun, attack helicopter

1- know the map

2- select an area to work ambushes from. Preferably 2 rooms or 1 large room in size in a second story building or elevated position. Area should overwatch an objective or a high traffic area.

3- use windows and doors (stand/crouch to the side) and snipe 1 or 2 targets then move to another opening. Don't think you have to kill everyone you shoot at. IF you can't get the shot back off throw a grenade


Would anyone actually want to see a tactical guide to camping? I mean, I just laughed when I saw this, not just at the fact that it's a guide to camping but also the content within the guide itself. It's barely one page long for a start. There is only one suggested weapon layout and one killstreak layout, basically his way of camping. This is where I got to thinking....

What actually motivates someone to "camp" when playing call of duty?

In my head, I boiled it down to a few reasons:

1: Your not very good.
Everywhere you go you seem to die, so staying in a corner looks like a good option.

[ In fact, the more practice you get, the more skill you gain. You wont make much progress by not pushing your own limits ]

2: You and your team are trapped in your spawn area.
You dont want to go out in the open and get killed.

[ In fact, unless you are not fighting back, all you have to really do is get a few kills and push forward a little each time. Using ghost won't stop you being found if you commit yourself to an area and flack jacket only protects against explosions, players have guns too ]

3: You want killstreak rewards or a high K/D ratio.
But your not willing to go far to get them.

[ In fact, you are more likely to have less killstreak rewards by camping unless you are skilled, if so, you don't need to be camping ]

Now this applies to many people I know,

4: You got skill but camping is easier.
This way you just let your enemy keep coming back to find you so you get an easy and fast killstreak reward.

[ In fact, unless you have the whole team coming at you, bigger and better rewards can be achieved by being active in more than one area ]

To a certain extent the term "camping" is often misinterpreted and used as an excuse or even as an insult. In which case, what is or where is the clear definition of the term, in relation to call of duty? But beside that, if all 12 players in the game are running around grenade spamming, doing 360's and what not, you would probably complain about that too.

Imo, the game is generally quite balanced between rushers and campers. I like those un-skilled ones, it's easy picking, if he's skilled then prove your worth and flush him out. It's a game after all, but the basic tactics used by campers stems from real life. What? you think the army doesn't camp? that's where the term is from and I can't stress this next fact enough, camping is kind of part of the game wether you frown upon it or not. You may think its cheap or lame but the game is about war, war has never been about having a fair fight has it?

But what do you think? Is it sad? does it help you out? does it even bother you?

I think most are a little guilty of a bit of camping.........
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03-09-2011, 06:07 AM #38
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Do a barrel roll!
My view of a camper is a person whos still there after the kill cam
03-09-2011, 06:34 PM #39
you say camping is bad ect but it really depends on the players your playing, if the other teams got a K/D of .5 yeh go run in kick ass, but when ur playing pros (ALL REAL PRO'S USE "FLUID" CAMPING), go play 1 on the best GB teams i guarentee thers only 1 rusher and 5 high traffic lockdown guys


i always camp at the start of a game to guage other players skill level and on certain maps its completely retarded to rush, for example sumit

a skilled camper will always always beat a skilled or very skilled rusher
03-09-2011, 07:01 PM #40
Mr.Kane
Greatness
Bad, only players who can not play camp.
03-09-2011, 07:23 PM #41
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Mr.KANE View Post
Bad, only players who can not play camp.


Your logic is flawed. Using your logic, I will explain.

Guy a.) Rushes, never camps, K/D is 2.0

Guy b.) Rushes, never camps, K/D is .60

Guy c.) Camps, almost never rushes, K/D is 1.75


Guy a & c are good at the game REGARDLESS of tactics . Guy B is not.

Using your logic guy b would say he is better than guy c because guy c just camps, which is almost a subconscious way of discrediting a guy who is better.

You judge a players skill on Win% and K/D NOT because he doesnt camp. Assuming he didnt hack numbers

I rush majority of time for 3 reasons.

1. LEGIT CAMPING is boring.
2. I like kills, and LEGIT CAMPING doesnt yield many kills like in MW2.
3. People who play this game are much worser players than previous COD.

However if a team full of campers OWN me, I blame myself for not killing them.
03-09-2011, 07:26 PM #42
Mr.Kane
Greatness
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Your logic is flawed. Using your logic, I will explain.

Guy a.) Rushes, never camps, K/D is 2.0

Guy b.) Rushes, never camps, K/D is .60

Guy c.) Camps, almost never rushes, K/D is 1.75


Guy a & c are good at the game REGARDLESS of tactics . Guy B is not.

Using your logic guy b would say he is better than guy c because guy c just camps, which is almost a subconscious way of discrediting a guy who is better.

You judge a players skill on Win% and K/D NOT because he doesnt camp. Assuming he didnt hack numbers

I rush majority of time for 3 reasons.

1. LEGIT CAMPING is boring.
2. I like kills, and LEGIT CAMPING doesnt yield many kills like in MW2.
3. People who play this game are much worser players than previous COD.

However if a team full of campers OWN me, I blame myself for not killing them.

I see your points.

Guy B would be to me a guy who does not care about k/d bought the game for the fun of it Winky Winky

I dont mind if you have a killstreak going (i mean 7+) you staying in the same sort of area but not sitting in a corner.
03-09-2011, 07:38 PM #43
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Mr.KANE View Post
I see your points.

Guy B would be to me a guy who does not care about k/d bought the game for the fun of it Winky Winky

I dont mind if you have a killstreak going (i mean 7+) you staying in the same sort of area but not sitting in a corner.


I agree it's boring to just camp. Thing is people suck at this game so campers are easier to kill.

Look at MW2. A guy could camp with TWO claymores and shoot Noobtubes across the map, get 5 kills and he could end up with 25.

I think MW2 was a better game though.

Its not that I like campers but I usually get a decent amount of kills despite them so why complain if I own them anyway.

Only camping I hate is HARDCORE MODES. THOSE MODES ARE BORING AND FULL OF CAMPING OMFG
03-09-2011, 07:41 PM #44
Mr.Kane
Greatness
Originally posted by Justice View Post
I agree it's boring to just camp. Thing is people suck at this game so campers are easier to kill.

Look at MW2. A guy could camp with TWO claymores and shoot Noobtubes across the map, get 5 kills and he could end up with 25.

I think MW2 was a better game though.

Its not that I like campers but I usually get a decent amount of kills despite them so why complain if I own them anyway.

Only camping I hate is HARDCORE MODES. THOSE MODES ARE BORING AND FULL OF CAMPING OMFG


MW2 is better, you get decent guns right from the start meaning if you are a lower level and have just bought the game chances are people will be using the same gun as you (adds balance). The UMP and intervention for example. UMP was overpowered yes but since anyone can use it from the first moment of online play it was fair, intervention is bolt action (the best kind of snipers always are) But it gave some balance.

See what I mean?
03-09-2011, 07:51 PM #45
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Mr.KANE View Post
MW2 is better, you get decent guns right from the start meaning if you are a lower level and have just bought the game chances are people will be using the same gun as you (adds balance). The UMP and intervention for example. UMP was overpowered yes but since anyone can use it from the first moment of online play it was fair, intervention is bolt action (the best kind of snipers always are) But it gave some balance.

See what I mean?


Sure I hated people who said guns and killstreaks were "overpowered" on MW2. There were at least 10 guns that were great... I will say the UMP long range was a bit much.

The reason Black Ops is boring is it is balanced as far as noting really "overpowered". People dont realize that. You can just buy shit.

MW2 was full of Noobtubes, Air Support, PAINKILLER, Commando, 6 kills could lead to a game ending NUKE, etc.... YET WE MISS MW2 and most of us agree its a better game than BO.

WE ARE ALL CRAZY when you think about it.
03-09-2011, 07:55 PM #46
Mr.Kane
Greatness
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Sure I hated people who said guns and killstreaks were "overpowered" on MW2. There were at least 10 guns that were great... I will say the UMP long range was a bit much.

The reason Black Ops is boring is it is balanced as far as noting really "overpowered". People dont realize that. You can just buy shit.

MW2 was full of Noobtubes, Air Support, PAINKILLER, Commando, 6 kills could lead to a game ending NUKE, etc.... YET WE MISS MW2 and most of us agree its a better game than BO.

WE ARE ALL CRAZY when you think about it.


BO had the potential to be better, L96 at lvl 4, no QS patch, AK47 at lvl 10, Commando at lvl 7 stuff like this would of make it good for me as I hate EVERY SMG in BO.

Yes even the ak74u i hate it.

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