Post: Where have the REAL gamers gone?
04-02-2011, 07:56 PM #1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Criticism, healthy debates and discussions about things we dont like in COD games are fine. I for one hate having multiple splitscreen parties on my team because lets face it; majority of splitscreen guys are TERRIBLE. I hated 2nd Chance but not as much as I used to, I actually get a little satisfaction killing off those bums. I hate getting killed by a Sniper, or Shotty and most of all I DESPISE getting my Chopper or Gunship shot down, and I look at the guy´s score and its like 3-15...But in all those cases, I respawn, and play on.

The COD community seems to literally not take ANY responsibility for their deaths. I read here, I listen to teammates and people in the game lobby and people turn things that are purely annoying into excuses for their deaths. I mean can you ever die without the other guy doing something wrong? Can't you ever be outplayed or wasn't paying attention, or shouldn't have reloaded, etc? I will give some common complaints that people turn into excuses.

1. Those guys were camping
... This is an FPS, OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL CAMP. Legit campers are lame, yet very easy to kill. And this word is way too overused. I honestly dont think people know what camping is. The worst complainers about campers are guys trying to Quick Scope or people who use 2nd Chance.

2. I ragequit when I see campers....
People like that are why so many games ended in MW2. To me trying to justify ragequitting by saying you were against "a team of campers" is like trying to justify rape by saying the girl was fat. How do we know they were really camping? How do we know the guys werent just better than you or your bum teammates kept dying? Whats stopping you from ragequitting when you are getting your ass handed to you by people who dont camp? Thats a silly question though, since of course everybody is camping but you...

3. "Noobs camping for Chopper Gunners and Dogs"....
First off if you let a guy get 9-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB, SO STOP CONVINCING YOURSELF OTHERWISE. I dont give a shit if he did camp to get it, its not like he has unlimited supply of Claymores and Stopping Power. If he is literally camping, that means he is in the same spot pretty much that entire killstreak. So if you let a person kill you 9-11 times in the same ****ing spot, THAT IS ON YOU AND YOUR TEAM. When the enemy gets Dogs against me, and I know the guy who got it was camping(because he killed me a few times :black: ) I DO NOT blame him for camping. I blame myself and my team for letting him camp that long in the first place.

4. Ghost...
Ahh, I just love those debates. People with Ghost don't camp anymore than those without it. As I have stated, it is actually easier to camp if you have a Spy Plane up all game and you think you know where people are. The annoying thing about Ghost haters is they NEVER acknowledge the Ghost users that rush. I know why though. It's because on NGU especially people think if you put the word camper in your argument, it makes it stronger or more valid. I do occasionally get killed by a guy using Ghost who is hiding, but not anymore than I do by any other player. People's dependence on Spy Planes on Black Ops is the reason Ghost is so useful. Next time you play TDM or just Ground War, tell me how many times your team or the enemy has Spy Plane up....THAT is why people use Ghost in the first place. If they camp with it, so be it. But I almost wish they would take the perk out. Just so people will have one less excuse for their deaths. The guy that has Ghost and even a silencer running around in your spawn killing your team, and just raping...Let's not mention him. Lets mention the homo hiding in the corner camping. I now use Counter Spy Plane often to stop Spy Plane whores...P.S. get a Blackbird(assuming you can get more than a 2-3 killstreak)

5. "Overpowered guns, Tryhards, Panic Knifing, etc."...
Is getting killed by a 74u with rapid fire annoying? Sure. But its not overpowered. If a guy doesnt camp and rushes, people still discredit him or her by saying they are a "tryhard"? So he plays the game without camping yet you still try and say he tries too hard, or his weapon is too good, or he plays the game too much, has no life, is a 40 year old virgin, N word or any other dumb ass thing people say. Just die and respawn and stop making excuses. Lastly panic knife. I am a shoot first type regardless of how close the enemy is. However if someone "panic knifes" me. I dont think of it as a panic knife, I think to myself, why did I just try to shoot a guy 3 feet in front of me.

6. K/D doesn't matter...
Oh but it does. It shouldnt be so important that you act like its an online dick size ruler but it does. I think it is important because it can at least mesure if a player can stay positive. A decent K/D and good Win% is what a strive for in COD games. But I dont go into every game hoping my KD is so high and blh blah blah. A lot of the people who say it doesnt mean anything at all, are the same types my thread is about. Every death is the enemies fault and regardless of if your Combat Record says you have a 0.40 Win% and a 0.69 KD you can still kick anybody's ass right? Your deaths arent your fault and your Combat Record means jack shit. Your are better than that guy with the 3.00 KD because you dont camp....You go girl!!!

Nothing wrong with complaining. But honestly online gaming is a different animal than offline. People will use the best guns, perks to their advantage. There will be those innocent hackers doing Prestiges, and then the more evil hackers trying to put aimbots in the game, etc. Point is, online gaming is not for everyone. It's okay to die and say, "damn I messed up" or even, "that guy ****ed me up" every now and again. Instead of always, "damn camper, tryhard, overpowered gun, Ghost noob, Flak Jacket noob, cheater, etc".

P.S. Again if a guy was camping and you let him get Dogs, you should look at yourself and your teammates for letting him do that shit. This isnt MW2 where maybe he got 5 kills by camping, then his killstreaks did the rest. If you let him get 10-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB. At least in that case.
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04-02-2011, 11:26 PM #11
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Thanks for feedback. I mean sure it's annoying as hell when some dude camps or even rushes with Ghost, and a suppressor, and then he gets Dogs and rapes you. That is annoying. But at the end of the day, the deaths still count. His kills still count. I am not against complaining. I am against taking no responsibility.

I try to play with a party because solo is terrible. You will get a group of splitscreen noobs, some dude trying to quick scope and get tomahawk kills, one guy who cant aim for shit, another camping on top of a cliff with an SMG...WHY WOULD YOU EVER BE CAMPING IN AN ELEVATED POSITION WITH AN UZI? This has happened. So playing with a party cuts down on a lot of deaths.

I will confess something though. If I am play solo for some reason, I lobby ragequit if I see more than 1 group of Splitscreen Noobs on my team.
04-02-2011, 11:33 PM #12
Soldier.
The Legend
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Criticism, healthy debates and discussions about things we dont like in COD games are fine. I for one hate having multiple splitscreen parties on my team because lets face it; majority of splitscreen guys are TERRIBLE. I hated 2nd Chance but not as much as I used to, I actually get a little satisfaction killing off those bums. I hate getting killed by a Sniper, or Shotty and most of all I DESPISE getting my Chopper or Gunship shot down, and I look at the guy´s score and its like 3-15...But in all those cases, I respawn, and play on.

The COD community seems to literally not take ANY responsibility for their deaths. I read here, I listen to teammates and people in the game lobby and people turn things that are purely annoying into excuses for their deaths. I mean can you ever die without the other guy doing something wrong? Can't you ever be outplayed or wasn't paying attention, or shouldn't have reloaded, etc? I will give some common complaints that people turn into excuses.

1. Those guys were camping
... This is an FPS, OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL CAMP. Legit campers are lame, yet very easy to kill. And this word is way too overused. I honestly dont think people know what camping is. The worst complainers about campers are guys trying to Quick Scope or people who use 2nd Chance.

2. I ragequit when I see campers....
People like that are why so many games ended in MW2. To me trying to justify ragequitting by saying you were against "a team of campers" is like trying to justify rape by saying the girl was fat. How do we know they were really camping? How do we know the guys werent just better than you or your bum teammates kept dying? Whats stopping you from ragequitting when you are getting your ass handed to you by people who dont camp? Thats a silly question though, since of course everybody is camping but you...

3. "Noobs camping for Chopper Gunners and Dogs"....
First off if you let a guy get 9-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB, SO STOP CONVINCING YOURSELF OTHERWISE. I dont give a shit if he did camp to get it, its not like he has unlimited supply of Claymores and Stopping Power. If he is literally camping, that means he is in the same spot pretty much that entire killstreak. So if you let a person kill you 9-11 times in the same ****ing spot, THAT IS ON YOU AND YOUR TEAM. When the enemy gets Dogs against me, and I know the guy who got it was camping(because he killed me a few times :black: ) I DO NOT blame him for camping. I blame myself and my team for letting him camp that long in the first place.

4. Ghost...
Ahh, I just love those debates. People with Ghost don't camp anymore than those without it. As I have stated, it is actually easier to camp if you have a Spy Plane up all game and you think you know where people are. The annoying thing about Ghost haters is they NEVER acknowledge the Ghost users that rush. I know why though. It's because on NGU especially people think if you put the word camper in your argument, it makes it stronger or more valid. I do occasionally get killed by a guy using Ghost who is hiding, but not anymore than I do by any other player. People's dependence on Spy Planes on Black Ops is the reason Ghost is so useful. Next time you play TDM or just Ground War, tell me how many times your team or the enemy has Spy Plane up....THAT is why people use Ghost in the first place. If they camp with it, so be it. But I almost wish they would take the perk out. Just so people will have one less excuse for their deaths. The guy that has Ghost and even a silencer running around in your spawn killing your team, and just raping...Let's not mention him. Lets mention the homo hiding in the corner camping. I now use Counter Spy Plane often to stop Spy Plane whores...P.S. get a Blackbird(assuming you can get more than a 2-3 killstreak)

5. "Overpowered guns, Tryhards, Panic Knifing, etc."...
Is getting killed by a 74u with rapid fire annoying? Sure. But its not overpowered. If a guy doesnt camp and rushes, people still discredit him or her by saying they are a "tryhard"? So he plays the game without camping yet you still try and say he tries too hard, or his weapon is too good, or he plays the game too much, has no life, is a 40 year old virgin, N word or any other dumb ass thing people say. Just die and respawn and stop making excuses. Lastly panic knife. I am a shoot first type regardless of how close the enemy is. However if someone "panic knifes" me. I dont think of it as a panic knife, I think to myself, why did I just try to shoot a guy 3 feet in front of me.

6. K/D doesn't matter...
Oh but it does. It shouldnt be so important that you act like its an online dick size ruler but it does. I think it is important because it can at least mesure if a player can stay positive. A decent K/D and good Win% is what a strive for in COD games. But I dont go into every game hoping my KD is so high and blh blah blah. A lot of the people who say it doesnt mean anything at all, are the same types my thread is about. Every death is the enemies fault and regardless of if your Combat Record says you have a 0.40 Win% and a 0.69 KD you can still kick anybody's ass right? Your deaths arent your fault and your Combat Record means jack shit. Your are better than that guy with the 3.00 KD because you dont camp....You go girl!!!

Nothing wrong with complaining. But honestly online gaming is a different animal than offline. People will use the best guns, perks to their advantage. There will be those innocent hackers doing Prestiges, and then the more evil hackers trying to put aimbots in the game, etc. Point is, online gaming is not for everyone. It's okay to die and say, "damn I messed up" or even, "that guy ****ed me up" every now and again. Instead of always, "damn camper, tryhard, overpowered gun, Ghost noob, Flak Jacket noob, cheater, etc".

P.S. Again if a guy was camping and you let him get Dogs, you should look at yourself and your teammates for letting him do that shit. This isnt MW2 where maybe he got 5 kills by camping, then his killstreaks did the rest. If you let him get 10-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB. At least in that case.


It's not even just CoD, I have had the same kind of bitching when playing FIFA, Street Fighter, Tekken and UFC < that's great for making someone mad at you.

Everybody's searching for that ultimate e-glory and are all under the impression that they are one of the front-runners.
04-03-2011, 12:53 AM #13
I know everytime my friend dies he gives a fkin stupid reason
04-03-2011, 12:58 AM #14
J-J
Skyrim Makes Me Hard
That's why I along with many others don't play COD. :y:
04-03-2011, 01:15 AM #15
zam070
Pokemon Trainer
Sick ass post man and very well put.. I got a 3.8 ratio and i know were you coming from and i was going to do commentaries these subjects but i gotta think of something else..lol
04-03-2011, 01:45 AM #16
I think we all just need to make good deeds to ourselves and go back to the N64 Happy

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04-03-2011, 01:58 AM #17
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04-03-2011, 02:02 AM #18
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Originally posted by Justice View Post
Criticism, healthy debates and discussions about things we dont like in COD games are fine. I for one hate having multiple splitscreen parties on my team because lets face it; majority of splitscreen guys are TERRIBLE. I hated 2nd Chance but not as much as I used to, I actually get a little satisfaction killing off those bums. I hate getting killed by a Sniper, or Shotty and most of all I DESPISE getting my Chopper or Gunship shot down, and I look at the guy´s score and its like 3-15...But in all those cases, I respawn, and play on.

The COD community seems to literally not take ANY responsibility for their deaths. I read here, I listen to teammates and people in the game lobby and people turn things that are purely annoying into excuses for their deaths. I mean can you ever die without the other guy doing something wrong? Can't you ever be outplayed or wasn't paying attention, or shouldn't have reloaded, etc? I will give some common complaints that people turn into excuses.

1. Those guys were camping
... This is an FPS, OF COURSE PEOPLE WILL CAMP. Legit campers are lame, yet very easy to kill. And this word is way too overused. I honestly dont think people know what camping is. The worst complainers about campers are guys trying to Quick Scope or people who use 2nd Chance.

2. I ragequit when I see campers....
People like that are why so many games ended in MW2. To me trying to justify ragequitting by saying you were against "a team of campers" is like trying to justify rape by saying the girl was fat. How do we know they were really camping? How do we know the guys werent just better than you or your bum teammates kept dying? Whats stopping you from ragequitting when you are getting your ass handed to you by people who dont camp? Thats a silly question though, since of course everybody is camping but you...

3. "Noobs camping for Chopper Gunners and Dogs"....
First off if you let a guy get 9-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB, SO STOP CONVINCING YOURSELF OTHERWISE. I dont give a shit if he did camp to get it, its not like he has unlimited supply of Claymores and Stopping Power. If he is literally camping, that means he is in the same spot pretty much that entire killstreak. So if you let a person kill you 9-11 times in the same ****ing spot, THAT IS ON YOU AND YOUR TEAM. When the enemy gets Dogs against me, and I know the guy who got it was camping(because he killed me a few times :black: ) I DO NOT blame him for camping. I blame myself and my team for letting him camp that long in the first place.

4. Ghost...
Ahh, I just love those debates. People with Ghost don't camp anymore than those without it. As I have stated, it is actually easier to camp if you have a Spy Plane up all game and you think you know where people are. The annoying thing about Ghost haters is they NEVER acknowledge the Ghost users that rush. I know why though. It's because on NGU especially people think if you put the word camper in your argument, it makes it stronger or more valid. I do occasionally get killed by a guy using Ghost who is hiding, but not anymore than I do by any other player. People's dependence on Spy Planes on Black Ops is the reason Ghost is so useful. Next time you play TDM or just Ground War, tell me how many times your team or the enemy has Spy Plane up....THAT is why people use Ghost in the first place. If they camp with it, so be it. But I almost wish they would take the perk out. Just so people will have one less excuse for their deaths. The guy that has Ghost and even a silencer running around in your spawn killing your team, and just raping...Let's not mention him. Lets mention the homo hiding in the corner camping. I now use Counter Spy Plane often to stop Spy Plane whores...P.S. get a Blackbird(assuming you can get more than a 2-3 killstreak)

5. "Overpowered guns, Tryhards, Panic Knifing, etc."...
Is getting killed by a 74u with rapid fire annoying? Sure. But its not overpowered. If a guy doesnt camp and rushes, people still discredit him or her by saying they are a "tryhard"? So he plays the game without camping yet you still try and say he tries too hard, or his weapon is too good, or he plays the game too much, has no life, is a 40 year old virgin, N word or any other dumb ass thing people say. Just die and respawn and stop making excuses. Lastly panic knife. I am a shoot first type regardless of how close the enemy is. However if someone "panic knifes" me. I dont think of it as a panic knife, I think to myself, why did I just try to shoot a guy 3 feet in front of me.

6. K/D doesn't matter...
Oh but it does. It shouldnt be so important that you act like its an online dick size ruler but it does. I think it is important because it can at least mesure if a player can stay positive. A decent K/D and good Win% is what a strive for in COD games. But I dont go into every game hoping my KD is so high and blh blah blah. A lot of the people who say it doesnt mean anything at all, are the same types my thread is about. Every death is the enemies fault and regardless of if your Combat Record says you have a 0.40 Win% and a 0.69 KD you can still kick anybody's ass right? Your deaths arent your fault and your Combat Record means jack shit. Your are better than that guy with the 3.00 KD because you dont camp....You go girl!!!

Nothing wrong with complaining. But honestly online gaming is a different animal than offline. People will use the best guns, perks to their advantage. There will be those innocent hackers doing Prestiges, and then the more evil hackers trying to put aimbots in the game, etc. Point is, online gaming is not for everyone. It's okay to die and say, "damn I messed up" or even, "that guy ****ed me up" every now and again. Instead of always, "damn camper, tryhard, overpowered gun, Ghost noob, Flak Jacket noob, cheater, etc".

P.S. Again if a guy was camping and you let him get Dogs, you should look at yourself and your teammates for letting him do that shit. This isnt MW2 where maybe he got 5 kills by camping, then his killstreaks did the rest. If you let him get 10-11 kills in a row, YOU ARE THE NOOB. At least in that case.


idk dude tomany 10 year old on the xbox and ps3 these days
04-03-2011, 02:05 AM #19
Read the whole thread, took some time but have to say I agree with 95% of it.

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