Post: MW2 Patch 1.09 - What they didn't fix! - ThunderJocks
02-16-2010, 11:04 PM #1
ThunderJocks
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Infinty Ward... if you're reading this... you have much bigger fish to fry in terms of issues/problems with your game.

There are many many problems to sort out in regards to getting into MP games and then staying in them. It's at the point now where you are lucky to get into a game you want, stay in it for the whole duration without being kicked out due to many different ridiculous reasons such as memory errors, server timeouts, failing host migrations, buffer overruns etc.

Also, the invite system is crap compared to COD4. In MW2... it takes 5-6 key strokes to invite someone. Join session is also useless as you end up on the wrong side than your mates or 1-10 down, i.e. losing badly.

Host migration doesn't work all the time as reecenltly, it has been terrible. I have a win ratio of 3.0 and 90% of the games I lose.. are MW2 kicking me out during or the host leaving and migration failing. Also .. when you use the 'join session' option, you are sometimes placed into games where there are only seconds left... the other day I joined one where the NUKE had already been activated by the other team!! For many non-USA players, you also end up in games where all your team has a red-dot.

The following suggestions are for the PS3 version of theg ame although.. I assume they are relevant for other consoles.

1. show the green/orange/red connectivity bars in the lobby before the game begins. This way people can foresee their connectivity issues and choose to find another game if required
2. show you who the host is before the game begins
3a. before it puts you in a game, whether you "join session" or search for a game and end up joining one in progress, it should give you the choice of joining after showing you the current score and which side you would be on
3b. if you can't fix the above.. then only allow someone to join a session where there is room on your friends side.. not the opposition
4. fix all the errors with migration.. only 50% of migrations are working at the moment
5. fix all the 'out of memory' errors the PS3s are experiencing. Many mates have reported this to me including my own machine many many times. Especially when you are hosting and the game is loading.. this is where you get most 'Out of memory' errors
6a. change the invite system back to COD 4 style but leave the "join session" option in place. They can remove the "add friend" option if it helps.
6b. if this can't be done... then at a minimum, take out the option to change the invitation text when inviting someone.... NO-ONE changes the text in the invite but it means another 3 button you need to press before the invite is sent
6c. if this can't be done... then keep the inviter in the PSN friends list until he finishes inviting...so he can invite others without having to hit 'invite' in the MW2 game for each player
7. fix the other countless errors that come up in the middle of a game that kick you out, i.e. 'count errors', 'annimation index range' erros for example
8. do not record a loss for the player if the player is kicked out due to errors or hosting issues. Only give a loss if the appropriate exit sequence of buttons has been pressed by the player and the 'loss warning screen' appears before a player leaves a game
9. do not allow players to join games where they will be one red dot of connectivity.. give them the choice at least
10. take into account the mix of players in a lobby before choosing a host. For example, if there are 11 Australians in a room and one USA player.. do not give the host the the USA. Give the host to the best connected player within the majority of a group in the lobby. The decision by IW to give the host to the best connected player is backfiring on many occasions. Remember... there are 11 other payers in the lobby who may all be close to each other and have similar connections far away from the IW server which determines who is best. Many times.. there have been 11 red dots to one single full green bar player in a 12 player match
11. fix the problem of people joining private matches. It's so irritating to try to have a private match and people join continually
12. allow the lobby leader to kick any participant in their lobby before looking for a public game, regardless of who invited them in or how they got there. At the moment, the lobby leader needs to go into the private match section to kick someone and then back out again before looking for a public game with his chosen group
13. many times.. you create a lobby with 6 mates.. then search for a game find one only to lose a mate or two. Then you have to re-group and start searching again
14. many times.. you create a lobby with 6 mates.. then search for a game, go into the main game lobby where the selected map is shown (where so far you or the best connected player in your group is host), only to be merged with another lobby (where the map changes) consisting of one person AND then, this one person gets the host.
15. Many times, a group of 6 mates will be in a lobby waiting for other players to join when 3-4 of them are moved into another lobby and the game starts straight away. The other 2-3 mates are left stranded. IW.. you can not separate players within groups.
16. After the 1.09 patch last night... 12 of us in a public lobby seperated into two games when the 'match' began.. 3 players into one game (1 vs 2) and 9 (5 vs 4) into another. The map was as indicated, i.e. the same map for both games but the games were separate.

IW.. please.. listen to your gamers. A lot of us have nearly had enough with the issues above anda re already talking about a mass migration to MAG or Battlefield.

IW... if you were to release new MAPs right now... I think you'd get a shock at how many of us would not buy them this time round compared to COD 4.
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02-17-2010, 10:10 PM #20
I_BULLET_I
Fcuk Do I Put Here
i can add AAALLLOOTTTT more to the list of stuff to fix, ALOOTT!

IW really dont care though thats the thing, hate them now, failed bad
02-17-2010, 10:22 PM #21
ThunderJocks
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Originally posted by Dog View Post
Smile Mate good post by they way and dont mean to be rude cos most of the stuff you said is correct and i agree but think about this comment you write :

3a. before it puts you in a game, whether you "join session" or search for a game and end up joining one in progress, it should give you the choice of joining after showing you the current score and which side you would be on

Just seeing current score and which side could potentially lead to peeps getting win streaks unfairly Winky Winky - just my opinion. still would be a good idea thou! Happy

:confused:

cant the completely remove the split screen load hack or block it somehow - i would really like to see how many people genuinely have reach 10th level 70 without cheating! Smile


Dave.. I don't think it would be a huge problem as people normally only leave losing sides.. not winning ones. Therefore people looking for matches won't find too many where there are free spots on a winning side.

But if someone from a winning side does decide to drop out.. then sure, a new player joining would end up saying 'yes' to the option of joining that side but at the end of the day, without the option... they would have joined it automatically and got the win anyway.

BTW.. a mate of mine on the PS3 "Bad14u" has genuinely reached half way through his last prestige (10th prestige). He has over 23 hours in the game and gets absolutely annoyed (as he should), when people accuse him of cheating.
02-17-2010, 10:38 PM #22
Totally agree - with the fact that you normally only do end up join the losing side anyways lol! thay could just in general just give peole the option to want to join game in progress or a launched game - a bit like tom clancy's vegas 2 - Love the game by the way - except all the lag and other probles also! but it gave you the option to join games that were in lobby if i remember correctly its been a while!

yeah i know a few friends HARDCORE gamers on the xbox who have made it to 4th and 5th prestige in no time at all - just wanted to get an idea - maybe they could add a leaderbaord (Legit One) that showed prestigde of people in order of time played to show on a scale of who got to the 10th prestige in the quickest amout of time and dont think it would be that hard to have a few guys at infinity ward look into it. if you understand what im blabbering on about lol!

PSNHappyave_The_Dog
02-18-2010, 08:34 AM #23
3a:you can do that by pressing circle when in the selevt a class menu but if you dont like it and leave you lose which is gay you also get a loss if host migration fails and ingame errors happen even if you join with seconds left without even selecting a class and lose that counts as a loss (i know retarded FREE LOSSES FOR EVERYONE). I agree with all but number six. I even think thak you shouldn't be alowed to join a losing game with a third of the time left to go unless it is voluntary because it's just gay. I don't meaan losing by like one kill, i mean like the other team is double your gonna-be-teams score. ITS JUST ANNOYING
02-18-2010, 12:42 PM #24
ShAdoW_RiDa
Former Blue Mod
Really good ideas,somebody should post this link onto his twitter,I will Happy
02-18-2010, 02:42 PM #25
IW....Instead of sitting there encoding patches I have an idea...........CREATE THE NEW MAP PACK OR SOME SORT OF ADD-ON, thank you
02-18-2010, 02:44 PM #26
Scouse_Dom
League Champion
they made the invite system the way they did to prevent freeze jumps Upside Down Happy
02-18-2010, 05:19 PM #27
I would rather play Modern Warfare 2 as it is now than not have it at all.
02-18-2010, 07:45 PM #28
Callisto
Monkey Gone To Heaven
most people think this is stupid and impossible, which i think it is, i think they need to make cod4s mp5 + the maps from cod4

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