Post: WAW vs Mw2.
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12-20-2009, 03:14 AM
#1
brwnspierman
Brute
i wanna know what you think but you gotta give reasons.. try not to get to pasionate.. its just 2 games.
ill start off the debate by saying i think that mw2 could be funner sorta.. but all in all WAW is better cuz i could nolife it forever and not get bored.
Here are my reasons
Why Waw Owns / sucks
Mp40 - fun as hell to use and you are insane with it/ sorta makes the game 1 dimensional but its still fun.. i had around 60k kills with it
Health bar/ Juggernaut - you can live long enough to not kill somebody or heal and not rage and punch your sofa and quit / it sorta makes it unfair because its so good
Maps - classic, realistic ( cuz they were real ) and all in all very fun.. eg dome was perfect, not to massive but small enough so its action packed/ i can't think of cons tbh..
Rifles - k im sorry you may think they were underpowered but they were not. they added such a new flavor rather then the fall/ they were a bit under powered if not used properally
Elites - Get good at the game, nobody can touch you ( not literally ) but if you were good you would have good results its not catering to the noobs / makes it hard for new players
k i don't wanna go overboard with WAW so ill start mw2
Killstreaks - SOOO MUCH VARIETY ITS AMAZING / for a few weeks til you realize everybody starts camping for nukes and stuff
Snipers - unlike waw they're not underpowered with thermal scopes and multi clipped and rapid fire shots/ they're OP now because you could just spray at close distance
Shotguns - Fun to use/ OP. ( understatement )
No Tanks - yeah self explanatory though tanks were alright they just slow things down if your in them or are a pain in the ass if your not.
Final Words
Overall waw is just more fun for me and i liked it a lot more.. it was addicting and when it got boring even though it rarely did, you could chill @ nazi zombies and stuff. There are things i forget to mention but im pretty sure they'll come up.
btw cod4 was legit but its not in the debate
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12-20-2009, 09:24 PM
#38
Dub Zee
SE Londons Finest
Originally posted by brwnspierman
yeah you make a lot of good points although tbh for me the biggest factors are the core of the game.. and imo thats maps, simplicity, how long you can play it without getting bored and generally how you feel while playing it
in mw2 maps are okay and you did mention the map packs are yet to be released, its sorta complicated but gets simple after you play it for a week but the thing it lacks is just it doesn't grip me with anything and i don't feel addicted to it
i think that the game is to based on little flashy things such as kill streaks, heartbeat sensors and things which seem cool at first but in the end are exploited and make the game much worse which is where simplicity comes to play
on a side note good arguments i never thought of some of that stuff and now think slightly more of mw2 although i still think cod5 is better
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in mw2 maps are okay and you did mention the map packs are yet to be released, its sorta complicated but gets simple after you play it for a week but the thing it lacks is just it doesn't grip me with anything and i don't feel addicted to it
i think that the game is to based on little flashy things such as kill streaks, heartbeat sensors and things which seem cool at first but in the end are exploited and make the game much worse which is where simplicity comes to play
on a side note good arguments i never thought of some of that stuff and now think slightly more of mw2 although i still think cod5 is better
^
dont get me wrong, i do understand where your coming from, MW2 is a far from perfect game, it doesnt help with fourzerotwo capping and nerf'in everything becuase some people hate it
i guess there's good and bad points for both games
i will definitely agree with what my mate said about 5 mins ago though, WaW's Stock (original) multiplayer maps were a hell of alot better designed than MW2's
12-21-2009, 03:27 PM
#40
johnnyko12
Pokemon Trainer
Originally posted by DuelWindz
heartbeat sensors.. painkiller just ruin the mw2.. I wish juggernaut returned because you would know which player on the opposition has it after killing them once.. Painkiller just ruin killstreaks..
Put on Ninja :confused:
There has to be some trick with painkiller I don't know about because whenever I use it I sprint to the enemies but it always runs out before I get there
12-21-2009, 03:30 PM
#41
battman411
Grey Beard
Its all subjective. I liked WAW for the zombies. I like MW2 for the modern weapons and maps of course. I really laugh at people complaining about campers. Do you think there may have ever been one guy in the history of war who found a nice spot and just blasted the living hell out of the oposition? Do you think the oposition then complained about it to all the other nations? No they went out and killed that little bastard or died trying! Don't like a camper, put your tampon in and go get him!
12-21-2009, 04:29 PM
#42
NodZ
Keeper
The main difference's (Normal mode)
Cod waw was more run and gun action (More fun for me) because the best guns were the sub machine class (MP40 & PPSH)they excelled at close to mid range combat so u had to move about alot to get close to ur enemies, and u had time to react and fight back.
In MW2 the assault and sniper rifles, range, rate of fire and damage (or the lack of player health) means they are amazing that you can camp and kill people from miles off so u just stay in 1 spot and kill from a far cos if you get caught running from 1 spot to the next u have no chance to react. U also get the shotty out if ppl get too close and u get 1 shot kill (OP)
Both games have their bad points.
For WAW it was things being over used like martyrdom, bettys, Juggernaught, MP40's and Tanks
For MW2 they tried to solve most of them but created different problemss like painkiller, all op guns, op killstreaks, heartbeat sensors, thermals, Riot shields and large scale camping
but they play completely differently, i wouldnt say they were bad games.They are both great in their own way so i wouldnt say any sucked.
I played waw to 10prestige then stopped as mw2 arrived when i hit 10. I am still playing mw2 only on 2nd prestige and i tried running and gunning which i learned to do from waw but gave up very fast after it just wasnt as effective and had to adopt my play style to slower movements and picking ppl off across the map with an assualt rifle.I still miss running and gunning tho. I havent really tried playing MW2 on Hardcore mode yet even tho i loved using rifles (Gehwr mainly) in WAW on hardcore because MW2 on normal already feels like hardcore mode with the damage the rifles do and theres enough campers on normal without going to hardcore.
Cod waw was more run and gun action (More fun for me) because the best guns were the sub machine class (MP40 & PPSH)they excelled at close to mid range combat so u had to move about alot to get close to ur enemies, and u had time to react and fight back.
In MW2 the assault and sniper rifles, range, rate of fire and damage (or the lack of player health) means they are amazing that you can camp and kill people from miles off so u just stay in 1 spot and kill from a far cos if you get caught running from 1 spot to the next u have no chance to react. U also get the shotty out if ppl get too close and u get 1 shot kill (OP)
Both games have their bad points.
For WAW it was things being over used like martyrdom, bettys, Juggernaught, MP40's and Tanks
For MW2 they tried to solve most of them but created different problemss like painkiller, all op guns, op killstreaks, heartbeat sensors, thermals, Riot shields and large scale camping
but they play completely differently, i wouldnt say they were bad games.They are both great in their own way so i wouldnt say any sucked.
I played waw to 10prestige then stopped as mw2 arrived when i hit 10. I am still playing mw2 only on 2nd prestige and i tried running and gunning which i learned to do from waw but gave up very fast after it just wasnt as effective and had to adopt my play style to slower movements and picking ppl off across the map with an assualt rifle.I still miss running and gunning tho. I havent really tried playing MW2 on Hardcore mode yet even tho i loved using rifles (Gehwr mainly) in WAW on hardcore because MW2 on normal already feels like hardcore mode with the damage the rifles do and theres enough campers on normal without going to hardcore.
12-22-2009, 03:45 PM
#45
Greek Ops
Boom ur Dead
WAW FTW!
I see a lot of people saying that the claymores are better. Really???? I just don't understand that. With the betties you had a full 360 degree blast radius compared to the 180 that you get in MW2 from a claymore. Betties by far are the better equipment.
Also all the complaints about WAW i have seen so far seem to revolve aroung the core aspect of the game. We didn't have MP40 noobs, or juggernut noobs in hardcore, or even Martyrdom noobs. Sounds to me like a bunch of you should have sacked up and made the move to the real proving grounds of hardcore.
MW2 is way to noob friendly any kid can pop in the game and have a great match which is a joke. WAW took skill and if you didn't have it you werent going to be playing it that long.
By far WAW has the longest playability time compared to MW2. MW2 just gets boring after a little while of play, it's not like WAW were you could play for hours and not get bored.
MW2 lacks focus on the Hardcore side of the game. They should have dropped the third person game modes and added more hardcore game modes.
My ranks: 1: WAW 2: COD4 3: MW2
I'm just waiting for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to come out in March, because I don't see myself playing MW2 until the next installment in the COD series comes out like I did with the previous times. MW2 = Fail!!!
I see a lot of people saying that the claymores are better. Really???? I just don't understand that. With the betties you had a full 360 degree blast radius compared to the 180 that you get in MW2 from a claymore. Betties by far are the better equipment.
Also all the complaints about WAW i have seen so far seem to revolve aroung the core aspect of the game. We didn't have MP40 noobs, or juggernut noobs in hardcore, or even Martyrdom noobs. Sounds to me like a bunch of you should have sacked up and made the move to the real proving grounds of hardcore.
MW2 is way to noob friendly any kid can pop in the game and have a great match which is a joke. WAW took skill and if you didn't have it you werent going to be playing it that long.
By far WAW has the longest playability time compared to MW2. MW2 just gets boring after a little while of play, it's not like WAW were you could play for hours and not get bored.
MW2 lacks focus on the Hardcore side of the game. They should have dropped the third person game modes and added more hardcore game modes.
My ranks: 1: WAW 2: COD4 3: MW2
I'm just waiting for Battlefield: Bad Company 2 to come out in March, because I don't see myself playing MW2 until the next installment in the COD series comes out like I did with the previous times. MW2 = Fail!!!
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12-22-2009, 03:52 PM
#46
oldage
Do a barrel roll!
WaW all the way baby.
the killstreaks in it were NEVER overpowered unless you truly suck. in MW2 if you come in a match where you are being spawnkilled by a chopper gunner/AC130 you don't have the time to grab your stinger/javelin.
hardly any bolt action SR's
I wished IW would've included all the guns from COD4. then MAYBE it would've been more fun. (R700 and the first sniper rifle ftw)
shitty maps. AND NO SHIPMENT LIKE MAP
and zombies > spec ops
the spec op missions have hardly any replay value to be honest. zombies never got old for me, still play it today but it's a shame that's there only 2000 games in the playlist nowadays.
those things are of course my opinion, I do not intend to bash MW2.
oh and they made it waay too noob-friendly. a friend of mine played it for the first time here and he basically owned with the FAMAS and the beginning killstreak.
the killstreaks in it were NEVER overpowered unless you truly suck. in MW2 if you come in a match where you are being spawnkilled by a chopper gunner/AC130 you don't have the time to grab your stinger/javelin.
hardly any bolt action SR's
I wished IW would've included all the guns from COD4. then MAYBE it would've been more fun. (R700 and the first sniper rifle ftw)shitty maps. AND NO SHIPMENT LIKE MAP
and zombies > spec ops
the spec op missions have hardly any replay value to be honest. zombies never got old for me, still play it today but it's a shame that's there only 2000 games in the playlist nowadays.
those things are of course my opinion, I do not intend to bash MW2.
oh and they made it waay too noob-friendly. a friend of mine played it for the first time here and he basically owned with the FAMAS and the beginning killstreak.
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