Post: IW not so original?
01-19-2010, 12:56 PM #1
Dub Zee
SE Londons Finest
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); well alot of people have said treyarch just copied from IW blah blah blah you know the story, well i had an argument (if you can call it that) with some random guy on XBL the other day)

his argument was that everything in MW2 is original and not copied from anything else (where as treyarch copied everything from cod4 etc) so i decided to set about seeing if it was true, and the reason i came to this decision is by playing a very old game and noticed something

Going to be a work in progress thread as il work on it when im bored, add to it if you find anything else taken from another game
Please use some common sense and read the whole thing before you flame and/or -rep me. yes im talking to you GreekOps Happy, and some other twat but cant remember hes name :cool:

Game: Perfect dark 64.
IW took: The incoming nuke sound effect.

on the first level when you get caught by the camera, the alarm is an exact match for the incoming nuke Alarm sound from mw2, il try and get a copy or vid as comparison

Game: Goldeneye
IW took: Throwing knife

now alot of people seem to think throwing knife is new to FPS games, yet i know its been in several other FPS aswell, i dont know if goldeneye was the first, but its 1 of the earliest i remember

Game: Aliens (trilogy?)
IW took: Heartbeat sensors

well as soon as i saw the first screenshot of the HBS it automatically reminded me of aliens trilogy on psone, of course u could also say it was taken from the films but u get the idea

Game: several
IW took: Sentry guns

alot of people have moaned about these in the past like they are something new, well in several games theres been sentry guns in 1 form or another from aliens (controlled by laptop) and Laptop sentry gun (perfect dark 46) to name but 2, too many to list, but im gonna try and find the first placeable sentry gun n put it in the game tab asap

Game: marathon durandal (also on xbla)
IW took: Dual wielding guns

i got this info from my mate and fellow NGU member chaos_deception, this game is the first to have dual wielding in any FPS

Game: duke nukem
IW took: Game ending Nuke

Anyone remember this game? and the multiplayer? it wasnt based on a killstreak, it was a hidden switch in every multiplayer map = nuke instant win even if you was losing, its a different game mechanic but the principle is still the same

Game: Delta force / medal of honor
IW took: Noobtubes

Noobtubes are nothing new, they have been in plenty of other games but people didnt bitch about them then, just using the 2 most heard of series as an example, il have to search n find out what game first had noobtubes in
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01-19-2010, 06:35 PM #11
Cute Poisen
Who’s Jim Erased?
The arguement with regards to Treyarch copying IW is actually to do with the fact that Treyarch basically took the CoD4 engine and put a world war 2 paint over it. Thus, Treyarch not having to do much work cos they've had it all done for them by IW. That's it.
I'm no IW fanboy, but you can't honestly say the Multiplayer in W@W wasn't exactly the same as CoD4. Treyarch even said it themselves ''It's just like MW'' when they were giving interviews pre release time. The killstreak count and challenges were all taken from CoD4. Even the game lobby was copied. Only thing different were tanks and dogs which was a huge fail, for me at least.

Just my 2 cents.
01-19-2010, 06:43 PM #12
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by Cute
The arguement with regards to Treyarch copying IW is actually to do with the fact that Treyarch basically took the CoD4 engine and put a world war 2 paint over it. Thus, Treyarch not having to do much work cos they've had it all done for them by IW. That's it.
I'm no IW fanboy, but you can't honestly say the Multiplayer in W@W wasn't exactly the same as CoD4. Treyarch even said it themselves ''It's just like MW'' when they were giving interviews pre release time. The killstreak count and challenges were all taken from CoD4. Even the game lobby was copied. Only thing different were tanks and dogs which was a huge fail, for me at least.

Just my 2 cents.


I'm sure they made an effort to make the guns shite as well.
01-19-2010, 07:00 PM #13
what a dumb OP. look at the automobile industry, every car is based on another manufacturers car. same applies to food... clothing... electronics... life...


this game used akimbo weapons and its not the first! how dare infinity ward. sigh.
01-19-2010, 07:12 PM #14
Dub Zee
SE Londons Finest
Originally posted by iown3hookers View Post
what a dumb OP. look at the automobile industry, every car is based on another manufacturers car. same applies to food... clothing... electronics... life...


this game used akimbo weapons and its not the first! how dare infinity ward. sigh.


as usually u fail to read, must be hard being as ignorant as you, then again as the saying goes, ignorance is bliss
01-20-2010, 09:52 AM #15
fraz422
PS3 Guru
Well the game is about modern warfare so they couldnt create any new weapons or attatchments without making it futuristic.
01-20-2010, 10:00 AM #16
It's worth noting here pre-release 402 did say they were taking 'inspiration' from various different places...
01-20-2010, 11:13 AM #17
OMG was that really necessary? you can't make everything new in a game.
but this guy was right, i mean world at war is based on the cod4 engine, so treyarch editet some weapons, maps and so on and infinity ward dind't copy a engine or something that is what he want to say, for sure IW could'nt invent some new things in this game but now everything stop to cry about this sh!t, IW did make a nice game with its failures, but every game has failures and some bad sh!t and also stop to make this game look bad, play it or don't play it, but stop i mean really STOP those f4ckin hate threads!

sry about my english i'm from switzerland Happy
01-20-2010, 11:25 AM #18
Originally posted by mica187 View Post
infinity ward dind't copy a engine


They did for CoD4. They used the unreal engine. The MW2 engine however(dubbed as IW 4.0) is of their own making, so until we see footage of CoD7 we can't say one copies more than the other. Besides, whatever happened to the term sharing?
01-20-2010, 11:58 AM #19
Goone
Looking for Suzzy
Originally posted by xFuSioNz View Post
That guy was just a fanboy or high on MW2, you shouldn't have taken it seriously and gone through all this effort lol

How so? You shouldn't be mocking him when he did all this effort like you stated.

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