(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Something that's been bothering me lately is the amount of BF3 fanboys hating on MW3 for no apparent reason. The reason I say that is because anytime I ask, I never get actual responses as to why they have so much hatred for the game. So now, I'd like to go over a few things with you.

For the people saying it's the same game as MW2:

Here's my biggest pet-peeve when it comes to the subject. This is one of the most common arguments in a BF3 vs MW3 debate that is rarely followed by any intelligent or logical insight, due to the fact that there is absolutely no way to back this statement up without looking like a fool. My rebuttal is that everything about the game is new. Try and argue the fact and you most likely will have nothing to fall back on. What separates this game from Modern Warfare 2 is as follows:

• MW3 has all new guns (I understand that some guns have appeared in past games, but they will have all new mechanics).
  
• MW3 has all new maps.
  
• MW3 has new perks (some irreplaceable perks have returned, understandably).
  
• MW3 has new killstreaks.
  
• MW3 has new gameplay mechanics.
  
• MW3 has new attachments for weapons.
  
• MW3 has a continuation of a great campaign storyline.
  
• MW3 has a tweaked and upgraded engine (to any BF3 fanboys who argue with "the engine is exactly the same as the MW2 engine": good. It doesn't need a brand new engine. It's the smoothest and most responsive engine I've ever seen).
  
• MW3 is devoid of some of the biggest pains of the CoD community, such as Commando, One Man Army, Last Stand, and more.
  
• MW3 has an all new Spec-Ops mode, featuring brand new gameplay mechanics never seen in Call of Duty before.
  

All this, and not to mention there are two new studios working alongside Infinity Ward that we've never seen Call of Duty content from. Some things are sure to be completely different. How is this the same game?

This is why I just don't understand the argument "it's the same exact game". It never makes sense and it makes you sound stupid. If you wanna go that far, BF3 is the same thing as BF2. Using your logic, any sequel to any game is the same game. And if you're looking for MW3 to be completely different from MW2, tough luck, because the franchise is Call of Duty, and changing that feel would forever change to franchise.

From CoD4 to MW2, Infinity Ward was still making improvements, such as adding and testing the killstreak system, and the variety of attachments CoD4. MW2 to MW3 will be different. Infinity Ward has built a sturdy and plentiful system with MW2, however, since it was the first game to contain all of these mechanics, it was essentially a test run to see what the fans did and did not want. Now that they have this information, they will use it to make MW3 the ultimate experience for consumers.

For the people who are saying BF3 is so much better than MW3:

Why? I simply want to know what's so groundbreaking about BF3 that separates it from MW3's new content. If you like BF3 better just because that's what you play, fine, I understand that, not everyone has the same tastes. But if you're hating on MW3 at the same time, I wanna know why. There's a reason it's one of the biggest franchises in history. I encourage a BF3 fanboy to step forward and share their thoughts on the game. Don't get me wrong either, I'm excited for BF3 and thoroughly enjoyed BC2, it just annoys me at how many people hate on MW3 with no reasoning.

If it's any consolation, I won't contest that the community generally sucks. It is very much filled with annoying little kids, but that's expected with a franchise so vast. If that's reason enough for you to hate the franchise, fine. But otherwise, I want to know what you hate about the game itself. Also, this is another reason for this post, to inform you skeptics that the whole of the CoD community is not filled with unreasonable, ignorant, immature children. But expect a portion of your beloved Battlefield community to go sour with BF3's release, with as much hype it's getting. Fair warning.

So if anyone would like to step up, I'd be more than happy to hear your debates.

Edit: I feel like a lot of people are taking my arguments as hostility towards BF3 fans; this is not the case. I'm simply debunking some of the rather unreasonable arguments proposed by them. This post isn't to prove that MW3 is/will be better than BF3, quite the opposite in fact. I'm excited for both games' releases and this post is simply to hear the legitimate and reasonable arguments on why they hate the CoD series so much. I am not here to argue their points. I'm here to restore sanity in the MW3 vs. BF3 debate, due to it's extreme lack of intelligence I feel it displaces.

This made me laugh.. You do know that it was the cod fanboys that started the war between the two?

Thank you. To be clear, I'm not looking to argue points, I'm completely aware of some of the faults Call of Duty has, I just had to hear someone give their reasoning for once. If someone tells me they hate Call of Duty, I expect something like this as a response and not something like "it's the same game hurr", so thank you for the intelligent and well thought out post.

[double post, my bad]

MW3 has all new guns (I understand that some guns have appeared in past games, but they will have all new mechanics).

Guns... really?

MW3 has all new maps.

Well they had to create something..

MW3 has new perks (some irreplaceable perks have returned, understandably).

Every cod game has new perks

MW3 has new killstreaks.

Yeah because Cod 4's killstreaks just were not enough!


MW3 has new gameplay mechanics.

Hmmm no it doesnt.. still the same...


MW3 has new attachments for weapons.

Hmm every cod game does that too...


MW3 has a continuation of a great campaign storyline.

Well they cant just give you mw2 with the same storyline..


MW3 has a tweaked and upgraded engine (to any BF3 fanboys who argue with "the engine is exactly the same as the MW2 engine": good. It doesn't need a brand new engine. It's the smoothest and most responsive engine I've ever seen).

Its not brand new its the same engine from cod 4, they only tweeked it they didnt upgrade **** all..

MW3 is devoid of some of the biggest pains of the CoD community, such as Commando, One Man Army, Last Stand, and more.

If they didnt they would lose big time...

MW3 has an all new Spec-Ops mode, featuring brand new gameplay mechanics never seen in Call of Duty before.

Its called survival... and its just cod zombies but they have guns lol...

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BF3 is amazing for these things..


1. Totally different story line.

2. Totally new engine.

3. Totally new graphics

4. Totally life like.

5. Unrestricted on PC

6. Bigger maps.

I don't get the point of this post, you basically just reposted what I said with a snarky remark after each statement. You proved nothing if that was your goal. And yes, IW5 is their upgraded engine, you can't say anything about it until you've played on it.

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Edited the first post with:

Nope. Actually the whole point of this thread was for SOMEONE TO TELL YOU WHAT PUT BATTLEFIELD ABOVE CALL OF DUTY. I did so.
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Yeah but the way ppl are going on 'BF3 FTW! MW3 is a big fail' MW3 will outsell BF3 by far. You've never played MW3 so how could you possibly say BF3 will be better, I'm not saying BF3 Will be shit. MW3 Will always outsell BF3 because cod has more Customers worldwide. I personally didnt like BF2 I prefered MW2, But I'll still buy BF3 all the BF3 fanboys wont admit it if MW3 is better than BF3, But atm They both look great.

I enjoy both games, but in my opinion, Modern Warfare is above Battlefield. If you're trying to shove your opinions down my throat like every other unreasonable fanboy then you can just leave.

Look, most people will buy both games, i know i will.. battlefield seems to have really improved by looking at the gameplay etc but i still love C.O.D and i will still buy it.

Im more of a C.O.D player but im NOT a "fanboy" .... This whole mw3 vs bf3 is very stupid.

If your hating on mw3 = your a douche.

If your hating on bf3 = your a douche.

Cant we live in a world without hate.. it seems we cant.