Post: Noob Friendliest COD by far?
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12-08-2011, 04:34 AM
#1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Point Steak system. Now I benefit from this as I use Pred, Reaper Osprey Gunner or Jugg with Hardline Pro. However the negative thing is there are at times UAVs up 10 secs in game. The idea has given me my high killstreaks easier but it makes the easy low killstreaks CRAZY easy. I don't see why Assault isn't used more seeing as how easy killstreaks are...
Kill Confirmed. I like the idea and the mode but if you think about it,this mode rewards you for doing things you shouldn't really do like running shoulder to shoulder next to teammates. Teams can have Sandy Ravage on their team yet still lose to a team of splitscreeners holding hands running down the map.
Supoort Package... The idea is great and of course having Support guys mixed in on your team helps...However, I can help to believe this package was made to help weaker players get killstreaks more than to actually help their team. Being able to die yet be guaranteed things like EMP, Jugg(although it's weak in comparison to assault) and the games biggest annoyance for me...Noob Bomber is VERY casual centric.
Death Streaks...MW2 had them, BO had Second Chance but MW3's death streaks are worse. Things like Juiced and maybe Hollow Points COULD be okay but Final Stand and ESPECIALLY Dead Man's Hand is ridiculous.
Stealth ****ing Bomber.. This is the most annoying thing in this game for me. There are so many maps on this game that make it hard to get kills with AC-130, Reaper and Osprey Gunner thanks to vuildings...Not to mention the regular version of Blind Eye can protect you from Assault Air Support...Yet, somehow the SUPPORT Killstreak gets Multi Kills while your in buildings AND Blind Eye can't save you. I can't believe people want guns to be nerfed even though all AR except maybe M16 are good and all the SMGs are really good yet THIS SUPPORT KILLSTREAK is okay. I remember the MW2 Stealth Bomber and unless you placed it in a good spot it sorta blew especially compared to Pavelow. There is no way all these people(especially negative players) are that good at placing Stealth Bombers.
I'm not in favor of nerfing ANYTHING since the game is more balanced than people give it credit for. Less gun play than BO but more than MW2. However, I can't help to think the game was really made with casuals involved even though they claimed they wanted it to be more like COD4. Especially when I see guys on the bottom of their team getting AirDrops, Bombers,EMP without really trying.
I do like the game though. If you agree or disagree or if you like the fact you can run around with a handgun knowing you'll get A Stealth Bomber just for essentially playing the game then fine... :carling:
12-08-2011, 05:31 PM
#20
Truth
Respect da BEST
Originally posted by xZeRoXP
Cod4 in my opinion was the best Call of Duty title (probably cause its pretty much a classic for multiplayer gameplay now), but it wasn't at all balanced, I can think of really weak guns within the game and really powerful guns, also if you got an Attack Helicopter and you were smart, you could get 3+ more Attack Helicopters that very same game, all you had to do was call it in after you died and let it gain you 7 more kills, and there you go, another Attack Helicopter.
MW3 is "noob friendly", which is what makes it balanced! If your a great player you can gain your killstreaks which would pretty much destroy the other team easily, but because of the Support Package the enemy team can easy counter those killstreaks easily, making it balanced, so now the only thing that is useful against the other team now is the Specialist Package and the MOAB.
Now I know the rest of what I'm about to say isn't relevant, but the only reason why many people like Cod4 is because it was too easy, infact, WaW is just as good as Cod4, they're basically the same, but nobody remembers WaW really do they?
MW3 is "noob friendly", which is what makes it balanced! If your a great player you can gain your killstreaks which would pretty much destroy the other team easily, but because of the Support Package the enemy team can easy counter those killstreaks easily, making it balanced, so now the only thing that is useful against the other team now is the Specialist Package and the MOAB.
Now I know the rest of what I'm about to say isn't relevant, but the only reason why many people like Cod4 is because it was too easy, infact, WaW is just as good as Cod4, they're basically the same, but nobody remembers WaW really do they?
I agree with this, COD4 was by all means not balanced. You probably just don't remember it. m16+jug? that wasn't fair at all. lol People think COD4 is balanced because those were the "good old times" you only remember the fun moments and none of the horrible break your controller moments. :bat:
12-08-2011, 05:32 PM
#21
dannyrhinos89
Hurah!
Originally posted by Justice
This thread will address MW3's real overpowered weapon.... The Support Strike Package. But first a couple of pro noob or even just pro casual things in the game...
Point Steak system. Now I benefit from this as I use Pred, Reaper Osprey Gunner or Jugg with Hardline Pro. However the negative thing is there are at times UAVs up 10 secs in game. The idea has given me my high killstreaks easier but it makes the easy low killstreaks CRAZY easy. I don't see why Assault isn't used more seeing as how easy killstreaks are...
Kill Confirmed. I like the idea and the mode but if you think about it,this mode rewards you for doing things you shouldn't really do like running shoulder to shoulder next to teammates. Teams can have Sandy Ravage on their team yet still lose to a team of splitscreeners holding hands running down the map.
Supoort Package... The idea is great and of course having Support guys mixed in on your team helps...However, I can help to believe this package was made to help weaker players get killstreaks more than to actually help their team. Being able to die yet be guaranteed things like EMP, Jugg(although it's weak in comparison to assault) and the games biggest annoyance for me...Noob Bomber is VERY casual centric.
Death Streaks...MW2 had them, BO had Second Chance but MW3's death streaks are worse. Things like Juiced and maybe Hollow Points COULD be okay but Final Stand and ESPECIALLY Dead Man's Hand is ridiculous.
Stealth ****ing Bomber.. This is the most annoying thing in this game for me. There are so many maps on this game that make it hard to get kills with AC-130, Reaper and Osprey Gunner thanks to vuildings...Not to mention the regular version of Blind Eye can protect you from Assault Air Support...Yet, somehow the SUPPORT Killstreak gets Multi Kills while your in buildings AND Blind Eye can't save you. I can't believe people want guns to be nerfed even though all AR except maybe M16 are good and all the SMGs are really good yet THIS SUPPORT KILLSTREAK is okay. I remember the MW2 Stealth Bomber and unless you placed it in a good spot it sorta blew especially compared to Pavelow. There is no way all these people(especially negative players) are that good at placing Stealth Bombers.
I'm not in favor of nerfing ANYTHING since the game is more balanced than people give it credit for. Less gun play than BO but more than MW2. However, I can't help to think the game was really made with casuals involved even though they claimed they wanted it to be more like COD4. Especially when I see guys on the bottom of their team getting AirDrops, Bombers,EMP without really trying.
I do like the game though. If you agree or disagree or if you like the fact you can run around with a handgun knowing you'll get A Stealth Bomber just for essentially playing the game then fine... :carling:
Point Steak system. Now I benefit from this as I use Pred, Reaper Osprey Gunner or Jugg with Hardline Pro. However the negative thing is there are at times UAVs up 10 secs in game. The idea has given me my high killstreaks easier but it makes the easy low killstreaks CRAZY easy. I don't see why Assault isn't used more seeing as how easy killstreaks are...
Kill Confirmed. I like the idea and the mode but if you think about it,this mode rewards you for doing things you shouldn't really do like running shoulder to shoulder next to teammates. Teams can have Sandy Ravage on their team yet still lose to a team of splitscreeners holding hands running down the map.
Supoort Package... The idea is great and of course having Support guys mixed in on your team helps...However, I can help to believe this package was made to help weaker players get killstreaks more than to actually help their team. Being able to die yet be guaranteed things like EMP, Jugg(although it's weak in comparison to assault) and the games biggest annoyance for me...Noob Bomber is VERY casual centric.
Death Streaks...MW2 had them, BO had Second Chance but MW3's death streaks are worse. Things like Juiced and maybe Hollow Points COULD be okay but Final Stand and ESPECIALLY Dead Man's Hand is ridiculous.
Stealth ****ing Bomber.. This is the most annoying thing in this game for me. There are so many maps on this game that make it hard to get kills with AC-130, Reaper and Osprey Gunner thanks to vuildings...Not to mention the regular version of Blind Eye can protect you from Assault Air Support...Yet, somehow the SUPPORT Killstreak gets Multi Kills while your in buildings AND Blind Eye can't save you. I can't believe people want guns to be nerfed even though all AR except maybe M16 are good and all the SMGs are really good yet THIS SUPPORT KILLSTREAK is okay. I remember the MW2 Stealth Bomber and unless you placed it in a good spot it sorta blew especially compared to Pavelow. There is no way all these people(especially negative players) are that good at placing Stealth Bombers.
I'm not in favor of nerfing ANYTHING since the game is more balanced than people give it credit for. Less gun play than BO but more than MW2. However, I can't help to think the game was really made with casuals involved even though they claimed they wanted it to be more like COD4. Especially when I see guys on the bottom of their team getting AirDrops, Bombers,EMP without really trying.
I do like the game though. If you agree or disagree or if you like the fact you can run around with a handgun knowing you'll get A Stealth Bomber just for essentially playing the game then fine... :carling:
i dont play it now but the thing that really 'grinded my gears' (peter griffin reference
) was dead mans hand the blast radius is ridiculous why should someone thats crap get a cheap kill like that and ruin your streak imo it takes over from commando pro, heartbeat, last stand, ghost pro etc as the most noobish thing to hit cod series
12-08-2011, 05:37 PM
#22
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
xZeroxp is so right. The game is actually pretty balanced. But I could care less about balance in any shooter really. Hell there are people who want their to be limits on who can pick Lakers,Heat on NBA 2K games. And as good as COD4 was it benefits from hindsight. It also benefits from all other COD having even more exploitable things as well as being the first in the series on next gen as well with probably 40% less players.
Naw I'm fine. I actually like the game, I'm merely stated things I noticed about it/dont really like. I think Battlefield 3 is a really good game sadly people hype it up because they're usually bitter ex COD players. That game is good in it's own right.
Naw I'm fine. I actually like the game, I'm merely stated things I noticed about it/dont really like. I think Battlefield 3 is a really good game sadly people hype it up because they're usually bitter ex COD players. That game is good in it's own right.
12-08-2011, 05:46 PM
#23
Ameht!
Dark Knight
Originally posted by Justice
xZeroxp is so right. The game is actually pretty balanced. But I could care less about balance in any shooter really. Hell there are people who want their to be limits on who can pick Lakers,Heat on NBA 2K games. And as good as COD4 was it benefits from hindsight. It also benefits from all other COD having even more exploitable things as well as being the first in the series on next gen as well with probably 40% less players.
Naw I'm fine. I actually like the game, I'm merely stated things I noticed about it/dont really like. I think Battlefield 3 is a really good game sadly people hype it up because they're usually bitter ex COD players. That game is good in it's own right.
Naw I'm fine. I actually like the game, I'm merely stated things I noticed about it/dont really like. I think Battlefield 3 is a really good game sadly people hype it up because they're usually bitter ex COD players. That game is good in it's own right.
I have both games , I ain't one of the bitter ones , just one who knows the facts
12-08-2011, 09:42 PM
#24
ResistTheSun
In Flames Much?
Originally posted by Justice
Sometimes I think you just like playing Devil's Advocate with me....
I fully understand COD itself isn't a hardcore shooter but that wasn't really my point. My point was you can tell they made a conscience effort to make the game even more casual friendly than it already is. At the end of the day it's not like most Support people are dominant because they're not. It's just that in previous COD you wouldn't get rewarded regardless of how bad you were.
My greater point is there are always things people want nerfed yet Support gets a pass. I'm actually pro overpowered things because they usually favor good players.
The game being casual friendly is okay so that anyone can play and have fun. The issue for me is you shouldn't be rewarded if you're bad. I mean like I said I like the game and hope Nothing gets nerfed across the board.
it wasn't a question of how nooby friendly COD is in relation to other FPS because most of us know it is by far. It was a question of how noob friendly it is in the COD series. I don't consider myself a hardcore gamer unless it's sports games.
Sidenote: the SMGs are good this year, Christmas came early for you
I fully understand COD itself isn't a hardcore shooter but that wasn't really my point. My point was you can tell they made a conscience effort to make the game even more casual friendly than it already is. At the end of the day it's not like most Support people are dominant because they're not. It's just that in previous COD you wouldn't get rewarded regardless of how bad you were.
My greater point is there are always things people want nerfed yet Support gets a pass. I'm actually pro overpowered things because they usually favor good players.
The game being casual friendly is okay so that anyone can play and have fun. The issue for me is you shouldn't be rewarded if you're bad. I mean like I said I like the game and hope Nothing gets nerfed across the board.
it wasn't a question of how nooby friendly COD is in relation to other FPS because most of us know it is by far. It was a question of how noob friendly it is in the COD series. I don't consider myself a hardcore gamer unless it's sports games.
Sidenote: the SMGs are good this year, Christmas came early for you
You where rewarded no matter how bad you are. Which is why we here right now. Super easy mode shooter where anybody can be king.
People can play on 2 and do well at COD :/
I seen people running support be dominant with that kit setup.
"conscience effort" not sure at first it was. But now i believe they do know it.
Am ok with it being casual friendly too but.....this big but. I want a game where it constant and i know what am doing wrong. I know where i went wrong. It not down to who headglitching the most or connection crap.
Which is why for alot of people we complain.
Which is why i like strong SMGs, i hate the campy style that COD has turned into it. ARs for me are too easy mode. Anybody can camp and do well with one.
Quite like the weapon balance in this game too and hope nothing is nerfed. Just shotguns are buffed so they can work like a shotgun without being forced to grind.
M16 is semi decent at range compared to the type 95.
Which why i posted all of the above. Because i was thinking you was going on a rant about support only. But it more then that
i think. My point was if you think support is a problem then alot of other elements need to be nerfed too. You can't take away one and make a game balanced. Like what happened in MW2 removed jugs left in stopping power serious perk balance issue.
Overpowered things are never good. Weapons feel different to each other and have strong points/weakness are. Which why i think for the most part the weapon balance in this game is fine. Apart from shotguns being crap lol
12-08-2011, 10:17 PM
#25
Lt_Larry
Space Ninja
COD4 was balanced but not enough variety,
COD5 was balanced except for one gun which everyone used, and there wasnt enough variety (but more than COD4),
MW2 wasnt balanced but at the same time was fun to play because there was a lot of customization and nice weapons/maps,
Black Ops was kinda balanced but in a way TOO balanced - wasnt fun to play,
MW3 is very fun to play but is no way balanced, but more balanced than MW2.
So I guess overall MW3 still wins. Depends what you prefer really.
COD5 was balanced except for one gun which everyone used, and there wasnt enough variety (but more than COD4),
MW2 wasnt balanced but at the same time was fun to play because there was a lot of customization and nice weapons/maps,
Black Ops was kinda balanced but in a way TOO balanced - wasnt fun to play,
MW3 is very fun to play but is no way balanced, but more balanced than MW2.
So I guess overall MW3 still wins. Depends what you prefer really.
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