(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Is it just me that thought oh support so crap people can help there team not oh look support noob, bet the using airtrap, steal bomber, EMP/jugganaught, or escourt airdrop and nothing that actual supports anyone, its OP to get a single kill with the support streak its ment to be support not assult strike, and EMP and jugganaught is OP like hell now espically when you dont need to work to get them...

Yet you did the same earlier :/
That just irony

IS support a problem no
Does it highlight other issues within this game yes.

Most days i use support and specialist. Assault killstreaks are meh and like killing people with my own gun

EMP and Stealth Bomber can be annoying but not enough to be a issue. Other things within this game which i rate higher up the chain.

And your right on not all assault users camp
But most do best way to gain them and game the game in general



Half right half wrong......
MW3 is very camper friendly

I know you think am mad........maybe i am after getting gold shotguns apart from the model that gun can die

Anywho lets look at the map mission.....
3 main lines of traffic on that map. One each side and one in the middle.
Right that pretty simple idea no , very close to black ops map design. Lets look at WMD from that game same setup.
Two lines of traffic on the outside and one going into the middle.

Now the best method on mission is to abuse that and keep the middle ground. As controlling the middle ground meant you can abuse the line of sights on to the main traffic points.
Very badly design spot on mission on the left side. Where that forklift truck is.
You can completely cut off a traffic lane just by camping it.
Go back to WMD you can do the same with that middle building. Highrise in MW2 you can cut off the use of one window exit by camping a box.

Other spots too on most of the maps like that. Along with other bits of map layout which can be used.
Spots which look over lines of sight too can be camped like on ark. That window that over looks B flag.

Along with radar , high damage best way to play COD is to camp. Go watch some MLG COD (Quite a joke of competitive gaming tbh) your see just what i mean.

I think the problem is......the game is too easy for anybody to do well for a number of reasons. That the real problem however most attack support. And not the real issues which have been within COD for some time now.

Finally someone who understands....I run 5 14 18(vest stealth emp) but because it helps during the game and its only the bad players who make it look like it takes no skill because to be honest, it makes you use your gun(since kills dont stack and stuff)

Also on what you said with getting more kills, I usually have a 2+kdr running support and not 18 and 50 or whatever like everyone assumes for someone running support

Stealth Bombers and EMPs are overpowered for support, but I have no problem taking down Juggernauts with an Akimbo machine pistol. The Escort doesn't like my Stingers too well either.

When do I ever attach "camper" or "kid" to anything I don't like. I simply state that camping is a part of FPS games and contrary to popular it's actually the most realistic tactic. Now is people hiding in the orner okay, HELL NO.

Most COD players like to call out everyone else instead of themselves. If someone camps and beats me over and over I blame myself. Also why is it okay to paint "most" Assault users as campers yet not most Support users scrubs?

I think Support rewards scrub players. You can't say Assault rewards scrub players. It CAN reward campers but so can UAV, powerful guns,perks,etc.

Now I hope you don't rebuttal with the delusional notion that rushing automatically makes a player good because it doesn't.

You like ElPres. Compare him to MarkofJ. Those are a good example of a bad rusher, blaming everybody but himself vs a GREAT rusher beasting, using Assault and dominating.

I don't give bad rushers anymore respect than campers. And like I mentioned I'm sure most Support users here feel they can rush and get 4 or more kills in a row purely rushing and if so, put that in Assault and you have pred missile.

Support isn't a big deal nor is it overpowered. I could care less about if someone rushes me or camps. Putting tactics aside, Support can reward a scrub player, Assault doesn't do that outside of a damn good Care Package. Capturing flags and shooting down air support helps get killstreaks too so that makes Support killstreaks easier and Assault less reasons to camp. Unless getting 6 kills in a Reaper is camping.

I aint a Cod fanboy.. let me tell you that now. ps i never said "noob" or "kid" just sayin.
And yea i know people who use assault dont all camp.. and yea capping flags/taking down heli`s adds to your streak.

I`m not trying to paint guys who run support as rushers who go positive all the time.. i get that you should be not able to get a killstreak if you go 15-30.
But there are good players out there who can hold a positive KDR while using support.

Maybe the problem with support is that you can die a unlimited amount of times yet get 15 kills in between deaths and get 3 killstreaks, solution would be your KS chain resets if you hit a certain number of deaths?

What makes assault annoying for me: The Hardcore campers who literally sit in corners all game.
I have no problem with the guys who use assault and hold down a area but when you see guys laying prone with silenced guns and staying in that spot all game :n:

What makes support look nooby and annoying for everyone: The guys who get a negative KDR.. get a kill inbetween 5deaths.. get a stealth bomber and get triple/multi kills..

Easy solution Infinity ward could add.. if you hit a certain number of deaths your Kill chain to your killstreaks will reset.

I`m tired as hell.. think i covered it all..

I agree with you. The difference between me and most players I am realistic. In a perfect world, everyone would rush and never hide from UAVs. In a realistic online competitve setting people will do whatever to win whether that be camping or using SUPPORT in FFA without actual teammates to Support.

The one thing I came to love about Black Ops was non stacking killstreaks. You would never see a bad player earn Blackbird,Chopper or Dogs. I don't judge good or bad players by if they rush or camp. Simply because there are bad rushers who go negative.
Good rushers who use hud, pay attention, cover,etc.

Bad campers who you still kill even thoug they hid in a corner waiting.

Good campers and/or defensive players who you'll keep trying to revenge kill but he gets you first.

At the end of the day you have to get the job done. Every match isn't going to feature people running around. Ground War and a party will make killing campers so ****ing easy.

Support players get a bad rap because even a Christmas Noob can "earn" a Stealth Bomber.

A Christmas Noob can't earn a Reaper, Specialist Bonus,etc. If you remove the camping,overpowered guns, perks from the equation which pkg is easier for a person to use? Support. If you're a smart,good Support player then great. You're helping your team. If you're going negative or using Support in FFA you're helping yourself with gimmie killstreaks. Rushing doesn't make you good and Camping doesn't make you bad. I got better at COD once I started becoming a good,smart rusher who adjusts instead of balls to the wall every game or hiding like a camping bitch.

Holy crap, there is nothing bad about any of the 3 kinds of killstreaks. The only thing Support has that I don't like is Stealth Bomber but that's it. Yes it's annoying, but no it doesn't mean everyone who uses support is bad.
I hate when the CoD community labels something as OP adds the word camper or something else that is negative to something they don't like. Sure there are SOME over powered crap in MW3, but that's besides the point.

Just another reason this game is trash.. At first I kind of liked it but, in-between this and matches full of overpowered handheld cannons (sniper rifles and dickscoping ) left and right

When you said "scrub players use support" you did the same thing as saying "campers or kids to anything you don't like"
Which is why i pointed it out you did the very same thing you said not too.
Look am not trying to say that support players are all great vs assault just pointing out a fault within the game design.

Camping is part of FPS games yea
It a tactic but when your game is design so that deaths don't matter and you make camping the best playstyle you have a problem :/
You can quite easy win a game of dom within killing a single person. Yet the game rewards you camping for killstreaks ok
Makes no sense

That the real issue and why support is so heavy used.
I think that support is broken for Dom and FFA. But i think that killstreaks in general are broken within how COD works right now.

I can quite easy say that COD rewards scrub players for all point streaks due to it design. Who more of a scrub the support abusing the game design or assault camper ? both are as scruby as each other abusing the game elements.

It very hard to tell where you gone wrong in COD which is why most people complain so much.