Post: My resurrection of the M16A4
01-04-2012, 07:24 PM #1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
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Porter Justice here and this is my brief experimentation of the first Assault Rifle in Modern Warfare 3. After using the Tar 21 I began using M164A in Modern Warfare 2 and it was BEAST. In Black Ops not so much, I just used it for nostalgia and because I like burst weapons a little more.

I decided since I am normally in a party instead of dealing with those scrubby ass Green arrows aka randoms...I could afford to use the M16A4. I consider myself a good player not because of what tactics, guns or perks I use but because of the common sense aspect most players lack. So party + some skill should equal = right? Well I will say this:

The Type 95 is easier to use because it's stronger although I don't think it's the easiest gun to use in the game. M16A4 typically takes 2 bursts to kill and is pretty accurate so as long as you have some type of aim you should be fine. However the biggest downside is at close range. M16A4 has at times taken me TWO BURSTS at close range to kill someone. I've died like this a couple times at close range and thought if I had Type 95, Scar, ACR, AK47 I would've have died. So you don't have to play defensive but don't think you're running in to enemy spawns and tearing shit up with the M164A


Now, MW3 the Type 95(get mad) :carling: is my 2nd most used gun behind the ACR and it reminds me of the MW2 FAMAS WITHOUT Stopping Power, you can get 1 bursts up close and the gun is crazy accurate. I've heard the complaints since people hate "overpowered guns" which is always the dumbest complaint in any COD in my opinion not to mention the biggest scapegoat next to "camping" I mean people hate campers but even IF you rush them, you'll get hell if your gun is "too powerful"...The SAME GUN THEY COULD BE USING IF THEY WANTED TO...The FAMAS of BO and UMP of MW2 were the only two guns that were a little OP but it's not going to make bad players good, but they could make good players way better.

M16A4 is a rewarding gun to use. If you're good with burst weapons and liked the M16 or G11(pre-patch) of Black Ops you have a shot(see what I did there :lol: ) with this weapon. I would advise you to have another class setup in case you face a really good team or are playing on a really small map. I use Assault and Specialist only(Support noobs get mad :carling: ) so I'd say Pred-Attack Heli-Reaper or Pred-Reaper-Pavelow are my streaks of choice with this. Red Dot, Rapid Fire, Shotgun are good attachments. 2 Attachments, Focus or Flinch are good Proficiencies. I'd stay away from Silencer as it will hurt the damage at ranges even more.

I will use this gun for the rest of my current prestige to get it gold however I'm not too sure if I will use it again. My gun K/D is 1.85 with M16A4...My gun K/D with Type 95 is 1.80....Which is a product of me knowing which maps to use burst weapons on, having full 9 man parties and also facing scrubs and splitscreen guys that would let an M16A4 outgun their UMPs, P90s and ACRs. Give it a go.
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01-04-2012, 07:30 PM #2
Shootprado
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I cant use the M16 in this game at all. I SUCK SO BAD with it but with rapid fire its good.
01-04-2012, 07:43 PM #3
Encopresis
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Good thread :y: Gonna try the m16 again.
01-04-2012, 07:43 PM #4
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by Shootprado View Post
I cant use the M16 in this game at all. I SUCK SO BAD with it but with rapid fire its good.


It is the worst of the Assault Rifles I think but it can be serviceable. I'm not one of those guys who think using a weak gun makes you a man and a great gun makes you a loser though so I can see why people wouldn't use it. I wouldn't want anyone on your team using them since most people would suck even with a BO FAMAS in their hands. However if feel you're a pretty good player(1.4 k/d) or higher I'd say handicap yourself and give it a try. It's rewarding getting double kills with it. I almost feel like if I use the Type 95 again it'll be like returning to Disneyworld from a Haunted House.
01-04-2012, 07:49 PM #5
Umm? Ok. Yeah, I too suck with this gun..
01-04-2012, 07:51 PM #6
t_h_e_Dagger
Pokemon Trainer
M16 without Red Dot is actually pretty frustrating , I have 2.2 ratio with M16 and I have always used Rapid Fire + Red Dot x2 Attachments. I still think MW2 M16 is better
01-04-2012, 08:01 PM #7
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
I mostly used this gun for nostalgia and an added challenge since I pretty much maxed out ACR, Type 95 and P90. I wanted to love the AK47 since that was my Black Ops gun but that damn bounce on it pisses me off haha. As a matter of fact I think I might give AK47 another chance since I know it is a good gun, I just sucked with it. Whereas the M16A4 is sorta bad and I'm trying to make it good.

Originally posted by Dagger View Post
M16 without Red Dot is actually pretty frustrating , I have 2.2 ratio with M16 and I have always used Rapid Fire + Red Dot x2 Attachments. I still think MW2 M16 is better


Oh it is. MW2 M16A4 with or without Stopping Power is better. M16 in Black Ops is probably better as well.
01-04-2012, 09:24 PM #8
Press ►
am r supr fgt
Sure. I guess this thread convinced me to get my first kill with an M16 :lol:
01-04-2012, 11:15 PM #9
ResistTheSun
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Originally posted by Justice View Post
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Porter Justice here and this is my brief experimentation of the first Assault Rifle in Modern Warfare 3. After using the Tar 21 I began using M164A in Modern Warfare 2 and it was BEAST. In Black Ops not so much, I just used it for nostalgia and because I like burst weapons a little more.

I decided since I am normally in a party instead of dealing with those scrubby ass Green arrows aka randoms...I could afford to use the M16A4. I consider myself a good player not because of what tactics, guns or perks I use but because of the common sense aspect most players lack. So party + some skill should equal = right? Well I will say this:

The Type 95 is easier to use because it's stronger although I don't think it's the easiest gun to use in the game. M16A4 typically takes 2 bursts to kill and is pretty accurate so as long as you have some type of aim you should be fine. However the biggest downside is at close range. M16A4 has at times taken me TWO BURSTS at close range to kill someone. I've died like this a couple times at close range and thought if I had Type 95, Scar, ACR, AK47 I would've have died. So you don't have to play defensive but don't think you're running in to enemy spawns and tearing shit up with the M164A


Now, MW3 the Type 95(get mad) :carling: is my 2nd most used gun behind the ACR and it reminds me of the MW2 FAMAS WITHOUT Stopping Power, you can get 1 bursts up close and the gun is crazy accurate. I've heard the complaints since people hate "overpowered guns" which is always the dumbest complaint in any COD in my opinion not to mention the biggest scapegoat next to "camping" I mean people hate campers but even IF you rush them, you'll get hell if your gun is "too powerful"...The SAME GUN THEY COULD BE USING IF THEY WANTED TO...The FAMAS of BO and UMP of MW2 were the only two guns that were a little OP but it's not going to make bad players good, but they could make good players way better.

M16A4 is a rewarding gun to use. If you're good with burst weapons and liked the M16 or G11(pre-patch) of Black Ops you have a shot(see what I did there :lol: ) with this weapon. I would advise you to have another class setup in case you face a really good team or are playing on a really small map. I use Assault and Specialist only(Support noobs get mad :carling: ) so I'd say Pred-Attack Heli-Reaper or Pred-Reaper-Pavelow are my streaks of choice with this. Red Dot, Rapid Fire, Shotgun are good attachments. 2 Attachments, Focus or Flinch are good Proficiencies. I'd stay away from Silencer as it will hurt the damage at ranges even more.

I will use this gun for the rest of my current prestige to get it gold however I'm not too sure if I will use it again. My gun K/D is 1.85 with M16A4...My gun K/D with Type 95 is 1.80....Which is a product of me knowing which maps to use burst weapons on, having full 9 man parties and also facing scrubs and splitscreen guys that would let an M16A4 outgun their UMPs, P90s and ACRs. Give it a go.


M16 is a better gun then type 95....................................................................................................................................................................................................................at long ranges
:carling:

I see what IW was doing with the Type 95 vs M16
Type 95 does very good at close range and middle range ok at long range it meh
M16 good at middle range and long range very good. However at close range it poo.
M16 has the longest damage drop off of all the ARs also quite a fast reload too.

Silencer should be good on the M16. I yet to use the M16 much. Couple games i have used it worked at range more then close range.

Type 95 only beats it because it rof means view kick can be countered by bullet spam
Still don't get why view kick in the game.....screws over burst weapons
01-04-2012, 11:35 PM #10
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by ResistTheSun View Post
M16 is a better gun then type 95....................................................................................................................................................................................................................at long ranges
:carling:

I see what IW was doing with the Type 95 vs M16
Type 95 does very good at close range and middle range ok at long range it meh
M16 good at middle range and long range very good. However at close range it poo.
M16 has the longest damage drop off of all the ARs also quite a fast reload too.

Silencer should be good on the M16. I yet to use the M16 much. Couple games i have used it worked at range more then close range.

Type 95 only beats it because it rof means view kick can be countered by bullet spam
Still don't get why view kick in the game.....screws over burst weapons


M16's damage at close has to be less. Even if I put all three bullets into someone I don't always get it whereas Type 95 does it every time. I forgot to mention that the reload is good so I use Blind Eye. I don't use Assassin since Hardline Pro is the real OP perk no one knows about.

M16 is sligtly better at long range but if you're accurate a lot of guns are decent at range. There really is nothing I feel the M16 does better than Type 95 except less complaining about OP.

As you've seen from my posts, I don't generally care what gun people think is OP because it's usually a scapegoat but it does feel good having nice games with probably the worst Assault Rifle. I

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