Post: A little perspective
01-19-2012, 01:17 AM #1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
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1. Gun balance- this is a theme in every COD game. Guns can't and shouldn't literally have the same stats. In sports games there will always be good teams that people gravitate towards and the only options are to pick those same good teams or learn how to make the weaker teams better. MP40 on W@W, UMP on MW2 andFAMAS on BO was a rare example of a gun being that much better than the rest. Also people are biased. If you use a gun then you seem to forget how great it is. At release of MW3 the UMP was "overpowered" again....until the MP7 and PP90M1 proved to be as good if not better. Smartest thing is to know there is rarely a gun that fits every situation on every map. Stop trying to level up your shotgun if the entire enemy is camping in the back or sniping you. Use common sense. Stop trying to quick scope on Dome when everybody else has SMGs. You're trying to outgun a Type 95 at range shouldn't tell you it's overpowered, it should tell you a P90 has limits.

2. Camping vs Rushing- THE ENEMY CAMPING IS THE ONLY ISSUE. If doesn't matter if YOU rush or camp. Your chances of getting kills is dependent on the enemy lots of times. If you're hiding in a doorway you need the enemy to rush you. If you're running around the map, you need the enemy to rush you. This is my reason people including campers hate other campers.

Believe it or not there is a playstyle in between hiding by doors and running around blindly with a shotgun thinking you own the map...Anyways, camping is a tactic NOT an exploit. If you want to avoid most camping play ground war or in a party. HC,SND and FFA to a degree aren't beneficial to rushers. I'm not sure why anyone would rush in HC or SND anyway...Im not saying camping doesn't exist but we know how COD gamers exaggerate. Every death was from a guy prone, with a claymore and whatever gun you don't like waiting on you.

3. UAV vs counter UAV perks- The UAV spam in BO and MW3 can be ridiculous and takes any skill or reward out if getting UAV. People never mention what I'm about to say... CAMPING IS EASIER WITH A FRIENDLY UAV. Think about it. If a guy is camping in a room, isn't it actually easier for him to stay in that room without dying if the red dots warn him you're coming?

UAV/Spy Planes aren't used only for rushing. This also adds to the list of things that might not have been camping but you just take the easyway out and blame it on camping.

If you use Spy Plane, HB Sensor or Portable Radar all game,you deserve what you get. I use my minimap as a way to find my teammates. I use the red dots as an idea of where enemies are.

Oh btw,i use Hardline Pro 80% of the time as I use Assault and I'd rather let the enemy know where I am. I have zero against Assassin users. I personally am glad people think Asassin is overpowered, because it makes my Reapers from 2 actual gun kills seem less ridiculous.
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01-19-2012, 01:22 AM #2
tenthlobbymw2
Maggbot timeout!
I agree with all the points people just bitch and make excuses to why they died instead of admitting they just failed.

-Only reason to ever bitch is if you died because they cheated.
-Example - I just watched a killcam where I was 1 shot by a mk14 silenced that had damage on it.
01-19-2012, 02:41 AM #3
atifI0
Are you high?
I agree with you, but when it comes to the enemy team and most of them have assassin, I instantly back out of the lobby. No point in playing against them unless its a hectic map like arkaden, bootleg and seatown.
The only reason I hate assassin is because you can't counter them, especially when you snipe or not use a silencer and run counter-uavs are pretty much useless.
01-19-2012, 06:51 AM #4
Novelette
The Anthem
MW3 is meant for trolling. That's my perspective.
01-19-2012, 01:12 PM #5
lemm
TEH LEMM
The only serious complaints I have with MW3 are:

1. Consistency - Depending on connectivity, some shots kill and some shots that registered on my screen don't even show up in the killcams.
2. Last Stand / Dead Man's Hand - They end my killstreaks all the time and keep me from enjoying the game. People who suck should not be rewarded with almost insta-kill.

After that, I thoroughly enjoy the game.
01-19-2012, 06:33 PM #6
Originally posted by Justice View Post
This thread will address three key topics. I'm not asking anyone to agree or diagree because I know at the end of the day people like to vent. If you have a great session of COD, these issues aren't a big deal. If you have a bad session however, you'll be blowing up Bowling's twitter.

1. Gun balance- this is a theme in every COD game. Guns can't and shouldn't literally have the same stats. In sports games there will always be good teams that people gravitate towards and the only options are to pick those same good teams or learn how to make the weaker teams better. MP40 on W@W, UMP on MW2 andFAMAS on BO was a rare example of a gun being that much better than the rest. Also people are biased. If you use a gun then you seem to forget how great it is. At release of MW3 the UMP was "overpowered" again....until the MP7 and PP90M1 proved to be as good if not better. Smartest thing is to know there is rarely a gun that fits every situation on every map. Stop trying to level up your shotgun if the entire enemy is camping in the back or sniping you. Use common sense. Stop trying to quick scope on Dome when everybody else has SMGs. You're trying to outgun a Type 95 at range shouldn't tell you it's overpowered, it should tell you a P90 has limits.

2. Camping vs Rushing- THE ENEMY CAMPING IS THE ONLY ISSUE. If doesn't matter if YOU rush or camp. Your chances of getting kills is dependent on the enemy lots of times. If you're hiding in a doorway you need the enemy to rush you. If you're running around the map, you need the enemy to rush you. This is my reason people including campers hate other campers.

Believe it or not there is a playstyle in between hiding by doors and running around blindly with a shotgun thinking you own the map...Anyways, camping is a tactic NOT an exploit. If you want to avoid most camping play ground war or in a party. HC,SND and FFA to a degree aren't beneficial to rushers. I'm not sure why anyone would rush in HC or SND anyway...Im not saying camping doesn't exist but we know how COD gamers exaggerate. Every death was from a guy prone, with a claymore and whatever gun you don't like waiting on you.

3. UAV vs counter UAV perks- The UAV spam in BO and MW3 can be ridiculous and takes any skill or reward out if getting UAV. People never mention what I'm about to say... CAMPING IS EASIER WITH A FRIENDLY UAV. Think about it. If a guy is camping in a room, isn't it actually easier for him to stay in that room without dying if the red dots warn him you're coming?

UAV/Spy Planes aren't used only for rushing. This also adds to the list of things that might not have been camping but you just take the easyway out and blame it on camping.

If you use Spy Plane, HB Sensor or Portable Radar all game,you deserve what you get. I use my minimap as a way to find my teammates. I use the red dots as an idea of where enemies are.

Oh btw,i use Hardline Pro 80% of the time as I use Assault and I'd rather let the enemy know where I am. I have zero against Assassin users. I personally am glad people think Asassin is overpowered, because it makes my Reapers from 2 actual gun kills seem less ridiculous.


Well said, people need to adapt their playstyle instead of flaming and trolling all of the time. Ok, the game has some problems, but the positives far outnumber the negatives, at the end of the day it's just a game that's supposed to be for fun and enjoyment.
01-19-2012, 07:07 PM #7
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
I am in no way saying camping, annoying tactics, those lame ass death streaks and the worst of all...LAG doesn't exist.

All I'm saying is a lot of COD gamers take these legit issues and turn them into scapegoats. EVERY death has to be because of a camper, an overpowered gun, etc.

These issues have been in COD so long that it's almost comical people still bitch about them as much as they do. I started playing in parties to counter most of these issues....i also play in parties because I'd rather play with players who can adjust than who cry all game. Enemy camping? Use recon and recon drone. Enemy using "OP" guns? Use OP guns. Enemy "camping" for killstreaks? Wait til they call in a big killstreak and use EMP.

Enemy camping with AR? Stop rushing the same route and flank tem or switch to Assassin and use that perk to flank. Or switch to Blind Eye to avoid all those killstreaks.

I find myself raging at idiot teammates more than the enemy. We all hate some of these issues but I mean it's online gaming. Expect the worst and be a man about it or stay offline....Lag compensation has to go. We have a guy in our clan who has shit internet I think. Everytime he is in the party it lags wa too much :(
01-19-2012, 08:35 PM #8
BuffaloBooker
pwn'n noobs since 1984
Originally posted by Justice View Post
I am in no way saying camping, annoying tactics, those lame ass death streaks and the worst of all...LAG doesn't exist.

All I'm saying is a lot of COD gamers take these legit issues and turn them into scapegoats. EVERY death has to be because of a camper, an overpowered gun, etc.

These issues have been in COD so long that it's almost comical people still bitch about them as much as they do. I started playing in parties to counter most of these issues....i also play in parties because I'd rather play with players who can adjust than who cry all game. Enemy camping? Use recon and recon drone. Enemy using "OP" guns? Use OP guns. Enemy "camping" for killstreaks? Wait til they call in a big killstreak and use EMP.

Enemy camping with AR? Stop rushing the same route and flank tem or switch to Assassin and use that perk to flank. Or switch to Blind Eye to avoid all those killstreaks.

I find myself raging at idiot teammates more than the enemy. We all hate some of these issues but I mean it's online gaming. Expect the worst and be a man about it or stay offline....Lag compensation has to go. We have a guy in our clan who has shit internet I think. Everytime he is in the party it lags wa too much :(


I like what you said here. IMO a players skill is not merely how many kills he can get or how many objectives he can capture. True skill, IMO, is being able to adapt your playing style to handle any and all players from campers, to rushers, to snipers.
01-19-2012, 09:12 PM #9
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by BuffaloBooker View Post
I like what you said here. IMO a players skill is not merely how many kills he can get or how many objectives he can capture. True skill, IMO, is being able to adapt your playing style to handle any and all players from campers, to rushers, to snipers.


In a perfect,selfish world every enemy would use a gun weaker than ours, they would rush all game and not use anti UAV/Spy Plane perks so we could see them at all times. Flashbangs and random grenades would only work when we throw them. Our Snipers and shotguns would never result in hitmarkers.

However, it's online gaming, people don't play the game to be fair. I personally hate people who go negative but always try to shoot down air support. I hate people who call in spy planes every 5 seconds but I like when my team always has them.

Outside of glitching and exploits,as long as it's not legit cheating we have to cope with issues. If a guy gets a MOAB by camping like a little girl,that MOAB STILL counts. If a guy goes 10-35 every game he sucks and the fact that he rushes doesn't change that.

Most players are too dumb to adjust because why actually try when to overcome cheap players when you can cry and beg IW to make the game cater to you instead... It's sad how some people are. I rage but I get satisfaction out of stopping these cheesy tactics. Online gaming isn't for everyone.
01-20-2012, 01:38 AM #10
GIRAFA
Creep-creep!!
IMO I prefer to play against campers than rushers
When I play Legit, I mostly play GroundWar and the way i counter campers is with a shotgun. I run into a building and spray with my striker, gets the job done.
Plus it makes those high prestigers rage Smile

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