Post: A little perspective
01-19-2012, 01:17 AM #1
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
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1. Gun balance- this is a theme in every COD game. Guns can't and shouldn't literally have the same stats. In sports games there will always be good teams that people gravitate towards and the only options are to pick those same good teams or learn how to make the weaker teams better. MP40 on W@W, UMP on MW2 andFAMAS on BO was a rare example of a gun being that much better than the rest. Also people are biased. If you use a gun then you seem to forget how great it is. At release of MW3 the UMP was "overpowered" again....until the MP7 and PP90M1 proved to be as good if not better. Smartest thing is to know there is rarely a gun that fits every situation on every map. Stop trying to level up your shotgun if the entire enemy is camping in the back or sniping you. Use common sense. Stop trying to quick scope on Dome when everybody else has SMGs. You're trying to outgun a Type 95 at range shouldn't tell you it's overpowered, it should tell you a P90 has limits.

2. Camping vs Rushing- THE ENEMY CAMPING IS THE ONLY ISSUE. If doesn't matter if YOU rush or camp. Your chances of getting kills is dependent on the enemy lots of times. If you're hiding in a doorway you need the enemy to rush you. If you're running around the map, you need the enemy to rush you. This is my reason people including campers hate other campers.

Believe it or not there is a playstyle in between hiding by doors and running around blindly with a shotgun thinking you own the map...Anyways, camping is a tactic NOT an exploit. If you want to avoid most camping play ground war or in a party. HC,SND and FFA to a degree aren't beneficial to rushers. I'm not sure why anyone would rush in HC or SND anyway...Im not saying camping doesn't exist but we know how COD gamers exaggerate. Every death was from a guy prone, with a claymore and whatever gun you don't like waiting on you.

3. UAV vs counter UAV perks- The UAV spam in BO and MW3 can be ridiculous and takes any skill or reward out if getting UAV. People never mention what I'm about to say... CAMPING IS EASIER WITH A FRIENDLY UAV. Think about it. If a guy is camping in a room, isn't it actually easier for him to stay in that room without dying if the red dots warn him you're coming?

UAV/Spy Planes aren't used only for rushing. This also adds to the list of things that might not have been camping but you just take the easyway out and blame it on camping.

If you use Spy Plane, HB Sensor or Portable Radar all game,you deserve what you get. I use my minimap as a way to find my teammates. I use the red dots as an idea of where enemies are.

Oh btw,i use Hardline Pro 80% of the time as I use Assault and I'd rather let the enemy know where I am. I have zero against Assassin users. I personally am glad people think Asassin is overpowered, because it makes my Reapers from 2 actual gun kills seem less ridiculous.
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zomcarnage
01-20-2012, 09:42 AM #11
Originally posted by oO View Post
IMO I prefer to play against campers than rushers
When I play Legit, I mostly play GroundWar and the way i counter campers is with a shotgun. I run into a building and spray with my striker, gets the job done.
Plus it makes those high prestigers rage Smile


Probably because the striker takes 0 skill.
01-20-2012, 07:08 PM #12
Porter_Justice
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Originally posted by Sigetto View Post
Probably because the striker takes 0 skill.


He still has to find the campers, aim and shoot,,, that's somewhat of a skill isn't it?

I beasted a guy last night who was using a PM-9 with hybrid(LMAO) and I was using P90 with extended mags and rapid fire. I was told my gun took no skill.

I laughed because I don't know why people think using a gun that puts you at a disadvantage makes you more of a man. I used M16 a lot my past two prestiges because I wanted the extra challenge. I did well with it. However, I'm ot gonna hate on an ACR or T95 user because I decided to use a weaker gun and he didn't.

Striker is annoying as hell but it's more realible than the other shotguns. Seems like the AA12 of MW2.
01-20-2012, 09:13 PM #13
Originally posted by Justice View Post
He still has to find the campers, aim and shoot,,, that's somewhat of a skill isn't it?

I beasted a guy last night who was using a PM-9 with hybrid(LMAO) and I was using P90 with extended mags and rapid fire. I was told my gun took no skill.

I laughed because I don't know why people think using a gun that puts you at a disadvantage makes you more of a man. I used M16 a lot my past two prestiges because I wanted the extra challenge. I did well with it. However, I'm ot gonna hate on an ACR or T95 user because I decided to use a weaker gun and he didn't.

Striker is annoying as hell but it's more realible than the other shotguns. Seems like the AA12 of MW2.


I find it funny when people run around with the striker acting like it takes skill and they go like 30 and 28. Then I pull it out and go like 40 and 10 and when the games over I say oh that took so much skill huh? Especially these rapid fire controller noobs that use the striker. Not Happy or Sad
01-21-2012, 07:12 PM #14
GIRAFA
Creep-creep!!
Originally posted by Sigetto View Post
Probably because the striker takes 0 skill.


Im playing a video game.. if a want to challenge myself ill get a 7th period at school Smile
01-21-2012, 09:04 PM #15
Originally posted by oO View Post
Im playing a video game.. if a want to challenge myself ill get a 7th period at school Smile


Or a 10x10 Rubiks cube. :y:
01-24-2012, 02:47 AM #16
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Update..Maybe it's because I like watching Youtube commentators like Sandy, MarkofJ, Seananners, C Smoove beast players instead of going into "omg that gun is too powerful" and ignoring the skill players either have or don't have regardless of how powerful a gun, perk,attachment is. I like watching good players beast... Not acting like skill doesn't exist...That being said...


Really? Really?....Really?

I remember around this time last year on Black Ops there were these,"the knife needs to be nerfed/removed" threads... All it really means is someone got killed by a "panic" knifer once or twice in a game and instead of accepting the fact that lag, general COD bs death or I don't know... You got outplayed for trying to shoot a guy TWO feet away when you could have knifed or dropshotted....

That thread made me laugh and now this one is even funnier. I initially took it as a things we all hate yet probably are guilty of type of thread. But holy shit you guys are seriously bitching about a knife? Grow a pair.

How many of you have chucked a grenade at the start of a game, or at an objective and got a killed or got killed??? Compare that to a knife death. In BO especially frags rolled up hill. You're only bitching about a knife because you're taking a break from "OP" weapon, assassin complaints.

Panic knifing isn't any worse than a lucky ass grenade kill or a lucky ass grenade death. It's a death, we hate it. It's NOT overpowered, it's a knife.
01-24-2012, 03:29 AM #17
GIRAFA
Creep-creep!!
Originally posted by Justice View Post
Update..Maybe it's because I like watching Youtube commentators like Sandy, MarkofJ, Seananners, C Smoove beast players instead of going into "omg that gun is too powerful" and ignoring the skill players either have or don't have regardless of how powerful a gun, perk,attachment is. I like watching good players beast... Not acting like skill doesn't exist...That being said...


Really? Really?....Really?

I remember around this time last year on Black Ops there were these,"the knife needs to be nerfed/removed" threads... All it really means is someone got killed by a "panic" knifer once or twice in a game and instead of accepting the fact that lag, general COD bs death or I don't know... You got outplayed for trying to shoot a guy TWO feet away when you could have knifed or dropshotted....

That thread made me laugh and now this one is even funnier. I initially took it as a things we all hate yet probably are guilty of type of thread. But holy shit you guys are seriously bitching about a knife? Grow a pair.

How many of you have chucked a grenade at the start of a game, or at an objective and got a killed or got killed??? Compare that to a knife death. In BO especially frags rolled up hill. You're only bitching about a knife because you're taking a break from "OP" weapon, assassin complaints.

Panic knifing isn't any worse than a lucky ass grenade kill or a lucky ass grenade death. It's a death, we hate it. It's NOT overpowered, it's a knife.


Thats Why I dont discriminate and rage after every death Smile
01-24-2012, 04:02 AM #18
-{OVOXO}-
PSN: awong_
Maybe I play solo too much. I swear every game my team is either half retarded, or are 3 year old little kids who has no idea what a controller is.
01-24-2012, 06:57 AM #19
Porter_Justice
Cake is a lie
Originally posted by OVOXO
Maybe I play solo too much. I swear every game my team is either half retarded, or are 3 year old little kids who has no idea what a controller is.


Yes! Solo will make anything you dislike and amplifiy it. Play mercenary if you must play solo. It's amazing how your teammates will use Riot Shields, Snipe on small maps or run around using pistols even when you need to buckle down and try to get a win.

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