Post: PC or MAC?
05-07-2013, 08:43 AM #1
The Epic
I wont stop
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05-08-2013, 10:55 AM #11
iVelocityGaming
Do a barrel roll!
I have a mac. But I prefer PCs over Macs. You have more access to your machine. Apple tries to put padlocks at every corner. Also most programs are made for PC and not Mac.
05-08-2013, 11:23 AM #12
Specter
Pro Memer
Only real advantage I've ever seen with a mac, is that its less susceptible to viruses. Just get good anti-virus software and malwarebytes for a PC, because not only is a PC cheaper, its a lot more compatible.
05-08-2013, 11:58 AM #13
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by Spam
I don't really game but I might play some online games sometimes, but other than that i don't, Anyways should I get a macbook a mac or a pc? I'm looking for a good first computer/laptop with great speakers that boom.


Well I have an imac and I payed alot of money for it and honestly it was the worst purchase of my life. Sure they are nice to look at and cool to use but for what you get inside they are a rip off. A pc is always the better choice, because you can build them to suit what you are doing or need and can replace parts later to make it cheaper in the long run.
05-08-2013, 07:52 PM #14
Millz
Worth the Weight
You can't compare an iMac to a desktop. The iMac is an all in one, and honestly when it comes to all in ones I don't see many that match up with the 2560x1440 display, unibody aluminum, and the fact that you can run two operating systems without going through a 2 hour long process is well worth the money in the the end. It is well worth it if you want a nice all in one on your desk without the large tower of a PC. Although with PC's you can just get a nice Mini ITX rig and it will work just fine, but you can't build your own all in one.

For laptops, I don't know what the big deal is. Windows suffers from winrot, and the weaker the machine the more painful it is to deal with. Also, very few laptops actually live up to their advertised battery life (using WiFi that is) which is 7 hours on their laptops. Their laptops are build with a unibody aluminum design and are very sleek and durable. They are leading the laptop market for a reason, and I must give credit where credit is due. I would not personally enjoy using any laptop other than an Apple laptop for my endeavors. The fact that it came with iLife was even better, and the fact that it can utilize the hardware so efficiently to the point where I can export 1080p videos at such speed it pretty remarkable for a laptop of this size.

At the end of the day it's your money. You do as you please and people can rant and rave all they want. I can already tell someone is going to respond about how I'm "wrong". It's up to you, do you want a:

Laptop that is well built, thin, light, durable, long lasting battery with good specs

Or a laptop that is

decently built, thin-ish, semi-light, semi-durable, decent battery with better specs.

That's how I've seen it and that's how I will continue to see it. I am writing this from the perspective of a MacBook Air owner and from a custom rig owner (specs in description). Needless to say, I am very happy with both realms and wish people would stop having these preconcieved notions of apple products.

And yes, the fact that Apple is still selling the Mac Pro is a complete and utter failure. Buying that is ridiculous.
05-08-2013, 08:11 PM #15
Originally posted by Millz View Post
You can't compare an iMac to a desktop.


Yes you can. At the end of the day they use the same hardware and the operating systems aren't too different.

Originally posted by another user
The iMac is an all in one.


You can build an all-in-one PC and get infinitely better value.

Originally posted by another user
the 2560x1440 display


You can buy that, or better yet a 2560x1600 (gotta love that 16:10/8:5).

Originally posted by another user
unibody aluminum


This must be a marketing buzzword/term, I had to Google it to know what it was. And look, it is. That serves no practical purpose whatsoever.

Originally posted by another user
the fact that you can run two operating systems without going through a 2 hour long process is well worth the money in the the end.


This isn't a plus to Apple - the only reason it's not so easy on a PC is because Apple have placed a f*ckton of restrictions all over their OS that ultimately help no-one.

Originally posted by another user
It is well worth it if you want a nice all in one on your desk without the large tower of a PC.


You can do that with a custom built PC.

Originally posted by another user
Although with PC's you can just get a nice Mini ITX rig and it will work just fine, but you can't build your own all in one.


Yes you can.

Originally posted by another user
Windows suffers from winrot, and the weaker the machine the more painful it is to deal with.


That will happen if you install lots of crap and just leave it there. But hey, at least Windows users (currently) have the option.

Originally posted by another user
Also, very few laptops actually live up to their advertised battery life (using WiFi that is) which is 7 hours on their laptops. Their laptops are build with a unibody aluminum design and are very sleek and durable.


I'm not too familiar with laptops... how does a [insert buzzword/term here] help with battery life?

Originally posted by another user
They are leading the laptop market for a reason, and I must give credit where credit is due.


That would be purely down to marketing. Apple products are "cool", and everyone for a reason unbeknownst to themselves likes them before even trying them.

Originally posted by another user
I would not personally enjoy using any laptop other than an Apple laptop for my endeavors.


A convenient example of the above.

Originally posted by another user
The fact that it came with iLife was even better


Plenty of good alternatives on the PC.

Originally posted by another user
the fact that it can utilize the hardware so efficiently to the point where I can export 1080p videos at such speed it pretty remarkable for a laptop of this size.


It doesn't utilize anything better. It either does it at the same speed as an equivalent PC or it has different hardware, which is most likely not the case.

Originally posted by another user
At the end of the day it's your money. You do as you please and people can rant and rave all they want. I can already tell someone is going to respond about how I'm "wrong". It's up to you, do you want a:


When you say stupid things generally speaking most of the time somebody will reply and call you out on it.

Originally posted by another user
Laptop that is well built, thin, light, durable, long lasting battery with good specs

Or a laptop that is

decently built, thin-ish, semi-light, semi-durable, decent battery with better specs.


Yeah, because there's only one model of each to choose from. Ugh.

Originally posted by another user
That's how I've seen it and that's how I will continue to see it. I am writing this from the perspective of a MacBook Air owner and from a custom rig owner (specs in description). Needless to say, I am very happy with both realms and with people would stop having these preconcieved notions of apple products.


You're the one with the preconceived notion. They're a rip off, as are to a lesser extent pre-built PCs. Compare the hardware -- it's pretty clear.

And the sadly necessary disclaimer; I own and use an iPhone. I'm not fanboy or anti-fanboy or whatever you might call me (not you Millz, just whoever drops by and reads this).
05-08-2013, 08:21 PM #16
Originally posted by Spam
I don't really game but I might play some online games sometimes, but other than that i don't, Anyways should I get a macbook a mac or a pc? I'm looking for a good first computer/laptop with great speakers that boom. Happy


Personally i would get mac just because i turned a PC into a Mac and i like it way better
05-08-2013, 10:04 PM #17
Millz
Worth the Weight
Originally posted by Clutch
Yes you can. At the end of the day they use the same hardware and the operating systems aren't too different.


You cannot compare an all in one which is no larger than the largest 27 inch monitors to a computer that is 10x19.7x22.2 inches (and that's small compared to most full tower cases nowadays).

The cases for all in ones have little or no room for a GPU. The iMac comes with what, a 660M or 670M? Those cases are not meant to house these graphics cards and are not very well built at all. Not to mention the price tag for a 21.5 Intel AIO being 300 bucks on ebay.

As for hardware optimization, OS X is UNIX. UNIX is notorious for being excellent with hardware optimization. There are very little differences when it comes to managing hardware actually, it's just that Apple closes it down to only have it work with specific hardware. Yes the OS is a rip off of a free OS, but the fact they took it and bundled it with all that software should make the actual OS worth much more than $30. And seriously, who even pays for Windows or OS X anymore.

And of course the aluminum unibody serves a purpose. Carving an entire laptop out of one solid chunk of aluminum means it is much more durable and rigid, while maintaining a lower weight. Most laptops out there have tens of different plastic components all over the place that make up the body of the laptop.

Yes, iLife has many nice alternatives. But considering when end users go out to buy a laptop or desktop it comes with intrusive antivirus and whatnot, I consider iLife to be a welcomed addition and makes me feel that (even if you pay for it) $30 is actually worth the product, while Windows doesn't really offer me anything to pay $129 for, doesn't really come bundled with anything near as nice as iLife.

The things I like about OS X are things like not having a registry. On OS X installing things is a drag and drop process, and to uninstall things you simply drag it into the trash and empty it. No foolish uninstallers here. OS X keeps each setting in a individual file called a preference, so if it becomes corrupt, you drag that file to the trash, re-open the program and are now back in business. On Windows, have fun with the registry.

See it's things like this where I can say that Apple actually tried, and while it may be true that Apple wants a "one size fits all" solution, I like that in some cases, especially on laptops where I am not going to be tinkering with settings and overclocking. I want something that is light, rigid, does everything that I do quickly and sure why the fuck wouldn't I want a laptop that's just a little bit flashy with excellent software bundled with it? If you want it out of me here it is: I hate apple iMacs and their Mac Pro's. I just never understood their hate for their laptops which are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be. I have been and always will be someone who builds my own PC's and tinkers and overclocks to get the best value for my dollar, but when it comes for laptops I do not mind paying (what I consider to be small) a premium on these things that I mentioned above. And when you factor in the fact that after a year you can sell your laptop for 70 percent of what you paid for, I'm just fine with that.

I am saying stupid things, in your opinion, while there are millions who will line up to agree. You have to understand that I am not here to argue, I am really stating things that I have learned through research. You mentioned how you don't know a lot about the laptops, while laptops are my entire premise on which I am basing my arguments on.
05-08-2013, 10:09 PM #18
Dman93
Crawl to your cross
Originally posted by another user
The iMac is an all in one, and honestly when it comes to all in ones I don't see many that match up with the 2560x1440 display, unibody aluminum, and the fact that you can run two operating systems without going through a 2 hour long process is well worth the money in the the end. It is well worth it if you want a nice all in one on your desk without the large tower of a PC. Although with PC's you can just get a nice Mini ITX rig and it will work just fine, but you can't build your own all in one.


The display resolution is pointless, he didn't say he cared about looks. If you are on windows why would you want to use mac os? There are better all in one pcs. I have one downstairs and it is better and was half the price.
05-09-2013, 02:34 AM #19
Michael620
Save Point
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