Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
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05-12-2010, 05:21 PM
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12-18-2010, 05:16 AM
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12-28-2010, 02:45 AM
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Personally i have liberal perspective of Politics . Personally i like both partys because money does " trickle down" and poor / middle class people need less to pay less taxes . But back to the point . Obama has failed in Military perspective , in a Global perspective , and a Economic perspective. Obama has failed the military because he promised to get the military out of the middle east completely in less than a year. , He " relived " a general from his duty because he gave an opinion in a magazine ( Being relived of your duty in the military basically means your fired) , He also does nothing about the human trafficking issues and the riots going on around the world . He fails globally because of the B.P oil spill incident he hid like a COWARD . Hes a Kiss ass to many country's mainly Russia . He is too quiet when it comes to country's like Iran and North Korea . He fails economically because he promised us quick jobs . But instead we have to wait till 2014 for some 100 jobs involving solar/nuclear energy . Notice that's after his presidency . He failed us in health care , Tax cuts , etc . I can keep going but thats it . If any one wants to -rep / say No thank you remember i said the truth and your ignorant to peoples opinions .
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Obama did provide history by bieng the first African-America president . But yea i agree most politicans belive that if you kiss the public's ass you will get elected . Obama had a free Jay-Z concert to gain supporters . It shouldnt be that way the better man with the better ideas should win.
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LOL? There is many problems with what you said . The president is in charge and is the big man . Sure theres checks and balances but mainly what the president says goes . Also communism has NEVER really existed . If you were intelligent you would know that the idea of communism is that the money is shared in the community . Basically Communism was meant to provide a Utopia . Sadly enough Karl Marx idea of that a leader will be elected from the community and split the money evenly for 4 years and then there would be another leader . Also i am 1/2 Cuban from my dads side so yea i do know what a bad government is .
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i think he means Guantanamo Bay? But he never said that he would close every prison that would lead to chaos .
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Originally posted by Lo5eR
all politicians lie. some are just better then others at doing it. as far as obama black or white he sucks. period end of story.universal health care dumbest idea ever.
Obama did provide history by bieng the first African-America president . But yea i agree most politicans belive that if you kiss the public's ass you will get elected . Obama had a free Jay-Z concert to gain supporters . It shouldnt be that way the better man with the better ideas should win.
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Originally posted by Millz59
For hells sake, everyone has to always point the finger to the President and complain how he is a terrible person. It's always the person who is trying to do good that gets thrashed and complained about. He is a good president, Hell, you guys are lucky you don't have communism, THEN YOU WOULD REALIZE WHAT ITS LIKE TO HAVE A BAD GOVERNMENT. Please, stop hating on the poor man; one last thing, I'm Canadian, so don't be hating.
LOL? There is many problems with what you said . The president is in charge and is the big man . Sure theres checks and balances but mainly what the president says goes . Also communism has NEVER really existed . If you were intelligent you would know that the idea of communism is that the money is shared in the community . Basically Communism was meant to provide a Utopia . Sadly enough Karl Marx idea of that a leader will be elected from the community and split the money evenly for 4 years and then there would be another leader . Also i am 1/2 Cuban from my dads side so yea i do know what a bad government is .
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Originally posted by Saucy
What are you talking about!
i think he means Guantanamo Bay? But he never said that he would close every prison that would lead to chaos .
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12-29-2010, 04:15 AM
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no, my reason being because he said make a change or whatever, he hasnt changed anthing but make a few small bills that dont even need to be made..he hasnt helped with all the mexicans coming over either. he also need to make marijuana legal simply because he could tax it and make a ton of the dept up. but this is just my opinion..
12-29-2010, 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Saucy
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...
Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
Please +Rep If you think this is a good poll for us to have
Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...
Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
Please +Rep If you think this is a good poll for us to have
I hate political debates for several reasons. One they get every upset and many start a flame war over things they don't know. Also more importantly no ones mind gets changed at all over the debate, that is why I'm gonna sit this one out.
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Originally posted by IIxRKLFLxII
Personally i have liberal perspective of Politics . Personally i like both partys because money does " trickle down" and poor / middle class people need less to pay less taxes . But back to the point . Obama has failed in Military perspective , in a Global perspective , and a Economic perspective. Obama has failed the military because he promised to get the military out of the middle east completely in less than a year. , He " relived " a general from his duty because he gave an opinion in a magazine ( Being relived of your duty in the military basically means your fired) , He also does nothing about the human trafficking issues and the riots going on around the world . He fails globally because of the B.P oil spill incident he hid like a COWARD . Hes a Kiss ass to many country's mainly Russia . He is too quiet when it comes to country's like Iran and North Korea . He fails economically because he promised us quick jobs . But instead we have to wait till 2014 for some 100 jobs involving solar/nuclear energy . Notice that's after his presidency . He failed us in health care , Tax cuts , etc . I can keep going but thats it . If any one wants to -rep / say No thank you remember i said the truth and your ignorant to peoples opinions .
---------- Post added at 10:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:33 PM ----------
Obama did provide history by bieng the first African-America president . But yea i agree most politicans belive that if you kiss the public's ass you will get elected . Obama had a free Jay-Z concert to gain supporters . It shouldnt be that way the better man with the better ideas should win.
---------- Post added at 10:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------
LOL? There is many problems with what you said . The president is in charge and is the big man . Sure theres checks and balances but mainly what the president says goes . Also communism has NEVER really existed . If you were intelligent you would know that the idea of communism is that the money is shared in the community . Basically Communism was meant to provide a Utopia . Sadly enough Karl Marx idea of that a leader will be elected from the community and split the money evenly for 4 years and then there would be another leader . Also i am 1/2 Cuban from my dads side so yea i do know what a bad government is .
---------- Post added at 10:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 PM ----------
i think he means Guantanamo Bay? But he never said that he would close every prison that would lead to chaos .
---------- Post added at 10:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:33 PM ----------
Obama did provide history by bieng the first African-America president . But yea i agree most politicans belive that if you kiss the public's ass you will get elected . Obama had a free Jay-Z concert to gain supporters . It shouldnt be that way the better man with the better ideas should win.
---------- Post added at 10:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 PM ----------
LOL? There is many problems with what you said . The president is in charge and is the big man . Sure theres checks and balances but mainly what the president says goes . Also communism has NEVER really existed . If you were intelligent you would know that the idea of communism is that the money is shared in the community . Basically Communism was meant to provide a Utopia . Sadly enough Karl Marx idea of that a leader will be elected from the community and split the money evenly for 4 years and then there would be another leader . Also i am 1/2 Cuban from my dads side so yea i do know what a bad government is .
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i think he means Guantanamo Bay? But he never said that he would close every prison that would lead to chaos .
I will say this though, I agree with you. In reality he is a bad president who is trying now to gain popularity before 2nd term so he might have a chance of staying in office. The only thing that pisses me off is people who have no idea about anything judge others which upsets me if it goes in my opinion or against it.
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Originally posted by Lo5eR
all politicians lie. some are just better then others at doing it. as far as obama black or white he sucks. period end of story.universal health care dumbest idea ever.
OMG it all makes sense now. Universal health care = dumbest idea ever. Of course thats why no other country uses it. Not like Canada and others. And all politicians lie. Great way of summing up our whole election system. Do some research before giving your opinion. I'm not saying Obamacare was good, actually it was horribly setup, but universal health care does exist in some places.
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Originally posted by somehow
As I am not from the US my point of view is purely based outside impressions. I often find myself wondering what sometimes happens in the US, and with 2 periods with Bush I gotta say I found myself loosing faith in America. Voting Obama for president reignited my hope not only for the US, but the entire world... it is a big hope to put on one mans shoulder, but dammit americans change opinions like the wind. Give the man a chance to make change. US has gone from being the greatest power the world have ever seen, to...well let's just say China have USA by the balls.
I'm guessing your aware of the Obama Change posters :/. With an economic recession occurring all nations hurt. What happened was the check and balance system went screwy as republicans had the house of representatives, Senate, And president. Things went haywire as war broke out and the economy tanked so we rushed democrat. Then democrat had control of the government. Now we have a democrat president, and senate, and a republican house of representatives giving a better check and balance system.
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Originally posted by iPython
I'm Canadian so I don't have a first hand experience at this.
Bush, having 2 runs, dug the USA into a deeper hole than they could manage, Obama is slowly taking you out of that hole. To say he is a bad president, is stupid and you need some sense knocked into you, literally. I am not bashing Americans by saying this, but you guys are always so quick to point your fingers at the man in power, little do you seem to know is that he is running a damned country. He isn't managing a small household, for changes to be made, there has to be agreements throughout several political groups and even then, time is needed for these changes to take effect. What if Obama decided to make cigarettes illegal? People would still do it freely for quite a while as it takes time to adapt to changes like that, over time though, less people would be doing it freely.
Give the man some time to pull you guys out of the hole, which he has already started doing and made some decent progress as well.
Bush, having 2 runs, dug the USA into a deeper hole than they could manage, Obama is slowly taking you out of that hole. To say he is a bad president, is stupid and you need some sense knocked into you, literally. I am not bashing Americans by saying this, but you guys are always so quick to point your fingers at the man in power, little do you seem to know is that he is running a damned country. He isn't managing a small household, for changes to be made, there has to be agreements throughout several political groups and even then, time is needed for these changes to take effect. What if Obama decided to make cigarettes illegal? People would still do it freely for quite a while as it takes time to adapt to changes like that, over time though, less people would be doing it freely.
Give the man some time to pull you guys out of the hole, which he has already started doing and made some decent progress as well.
This is what I can stand least. You don't live in America. You don't read his bills. You don't know his propositions. You don't know his current popularity (which has gone down drastically). Yet you feel that we should follow Obama. For Chris*'s sake it took him 3 votes to get his horrible Obamacare through. Democrats had complete control of the house and senate. Then he turns around and says it was the republicans stopping the progress.
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Originally posted by GaMeR
The U.S. is not going to get better in a week or two. Bush REALLY ****ed up the U.S. with alot of things & Obama is trying his best to repair the damage that Bush made. You guys hate him because he's black or because he hasn't done anything but everything takes time. =D
We dislike him because he's doing a poor job. Hell he still has 50% popularity mainly BECAUSE of the black vote. Move here. Learn his propositions, healthcare, his plans and decisions, then tell me what you think of it. Healthcare is worse than ever. States will go bankcrupt JESUS CHRIST! 18 states are suing the federal government to repeal obamacare because they can't afford it. Now tell me does that sound like he's doing a good job.
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Originally posted by Kidd
sad to say but half of his votes were because of his race and that alone. E.x my friend voted for him because of that, and when confronted about his polices and so on my friend knew nothing about them.
I would thank you if i had any left
. Someone says it I mean a muslim teacher is suing the school for not giving her a month off for Ramadan. For some reason in the US when it comes to race and religion minority rule.---------- Post added at 06:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 AM ----------
Originally posted by koolkarpet
The #1 supporter of the Obama election campaign was BP oil. You see the way he's treating them? Such a backstabber. Also when he refers to Wall Street as "tricks and traps".. That doesn't look to good either. It's pretty obvious he wants to "protect" the american people by enforcing and imposing more federal regulations. Shit that we don't need.
Actually the financial situation can be largely blamed on Clinton. Do your research kid. Quit reading just the "internet". Bush's decision on the Iraq war was crucial. I bet you guys didn't know they found weaponized uranium? If we were to leave or not have gone to war. That country would be just as bad as Somalia. It would be run by terrorists and they could plan ANOTHER attack on U.S. soil. What about the Kurds? Just let them die in the Mustard gas chambers? People dog Bush all the time, when they know nothing about the decisions he had to make.
Obama has passed Universal Health care.. Oh thats great. Except for the fact that in most cases employers would rather get hit with a federal fine than actually provide health benefits! So you don't get covered and on top of that theres less full time jobs so they don't even have to worry about benefits and pensions.
Actually the financial situation can be largely blamed on Clinton. Do your research kid. Quit reading just the "internet". Bush's decision on the Iraq war was crucial. I bet you guys didn't know they found weaponized uranium? If we were to leave or not have gone to war. That country would be just as bad as Somalia. It would be run by terrorists and they could plan ANOTHER attack on U.S. soil. What about the Kurds? Just let them die in the Mustard gas chambers? People dog Bush all the time, when they know nothing about the decisions he had to make.
Obama has passed Universal Health care.. Oh thats great. Except for the fact that in most cases employers would rather get hit with a federal fine than actually provide health benefits! So you don't get covered and on top of that theres less full time jobs so they don't even have to worry about benefits and pensions.
Hate to tell you this, but we didn't find weaponized uranium. We thought we had it, but we never found any leads on it.
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Originally posted by Pricey91
I think the rest of the world would agree with me here, we all love Canada... Keep themselves to themselves and don't go invading countries for their oil.
Oil is mandatory until alternative energies are more practical. There is always nuclear power plants, but they are even more controversial.
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Originally posted by HoppingZombie
LOL that doesn't have relevance it's South Park
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Originally posted by hockeybrah951
Yes I think he is a good president. The republicans say otherwise because Bush screwed us over so bad and Obama has to clean it up. They have forgotten about Bush's failed attempt at running our country and are now blaming Obama. We are now more bankrupt than before but we had to pull GM out of debt since they are one of the biggest companies in America they can make us money and they will pay back government loans. Also, republicans are saying dont go talk to the cuban president, venezula's president, etc. Obama is trying to make us look good after Bush stormed into Iraq for now reason. We should have always been in Afgan, Bush is a failure. He could have prevented 9/11 but him and his people are brain dead. I only liked Colin Powel. Obama is a great president. Just like Clinton, Obama has to turn our country around. The only good thing Bush senior did was save Kuwait. Bush jr didnt amount to anything and didnt do anything good for our country the 8 years he was in. How stupid are we to elect him twice? Whatever. Its the past and were all paying for those morons decision to keep him in now and Obama has to fix this. We will have to re elect Obama so his plan can fully work. It will take years and years to fix what bush has done but with Obamas 41% rating I dont think he will be re elected because of those damn republicans. Go Obama my commander in chief.
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9/11 was in his first term...I think katrina was at the start of his second. He destroyed our economy both terms. The last 2 years of his power was were he murdered our country. No wonder the world thinks were stupid...we reelected him..
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9/11 was in his first term...I think katrina was at the start of his second. He destroyed our economy both terms. The last 2 years of his power was were he murdered our country. No wonder the world thinks were stupid...we reelected him..
One quick question... are you high?.... Okay WTF!!! I hate radicals. Let me get this straight then. Obama has a 70% rating coming into office and now only has a 41% rating and you blame republicans yes it makes sense. A party that the people hated is doing this and not people deciding he isn't such a great president. Its called democracy. Are you aware of his economic propositions. Okay how about war relations. It's stereotypical to generalize a political party off of one president. Why don't I just generalize all democrats like Andrew Jackson (you should do some research on him). His bills are horrific. Do you have any idea how many threats the US recieves everyday and how many we have to figure out are real. Obama has set deadlines for when we're pulling out of the wars. To add to all of that lets not forget he handled the mosque situation horribly.
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Originally posted by Skittle1024
He is a good president. He's under a lot of pressure because he's black. I think he is doing a good job.. that's MY opinion.
He has done a horrific job. Who else spends two stimuluses and a national healthcare system when your 1 trillion in debt within two years
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Originally posted by rjive
Have you not read any of my posts in this thread? lol
Universal health care doesn't take away from the doctors profits... It takes away from the American tax payer. The cost of the government option to the American tax payer is 940 billion. This is 30% more than we've spent on the Iraq war (2001-present) which I presume you're so against. So ONE BILL will cost more than 9 years of the Iraq war... don't you find that extremely troubling?
Might I recommend reading my previous posts. Here are the two you should start with.
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Universal health care doesn't take away from the doctors profits... It takes away from the American tax payer. The cost of the government option to the American tax payer is 940 billion. This is 30% more than we've spent on the Iraq war (2001-present) which I presume you're so against. So ONE BILL will cost more than 9 years of the Iraq war... don't you find that extremely troubling?
Might I recommend reading my previous posts. Here are the two you should start with.
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Actually it does take away from doctors. My friend is a doctor and they recieve a much smaller payment for obamacare patients.
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