Post: Is Obama A Good president Or No???
05-12-2010, 05:21 PM #1
Saucy-_-
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Hey Guys ive seen alot of people on here making a post about obama being a good and bad President, So i was wondering what every one here thinks about it...

Please leave a comment on why you think hes bad or good...
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05-15-2010, 02:20 AM #56
itzbigant91
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Originally posted by rjive View Post
You can read about the bill that Obama put into effect here:
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Basically the argument AGAINST stem cell research is the research of embryonic stem cells. In order to extract stem cells from embryos, the embryo has to be destroyed... as a result destroying the human life. This is basically your pro-lifers.

I personally don't know where I stand on this... If I had to put myself in a category, I'm pro-choice.

There are many benefits of stem cell research. Stems calls come from three sources. Adult bone marrow, umbilical chords and embryos. I guess you can have stem cell research from bone marrow and umbilical chords... leaving the embryos alone. I'm no scientist though. Smile

Hopefully this clears it up for you. Or maybe it brings up more questions??


yea, it didnt even come to me that it was that big of a deal. now that i have read up on it a while ago, i dont find it as the best thing to be doing.
05-15-2010, 04:55 AM #57
NotlocTL
Do a barrel roll!
Obama is the next Jimmy Carter; the worst two presidents the US has ever had.
05-15-2010, 05:34 AM #58
Ok his is not even a american he was not born in the u.s.a in my book he is a immagrant... his mom is racist.. he use to go to a racist church. he is from a 3rd world country where the government runs everything. he is best friends with a terroist. he should have never won the noble peace prize.. wtf is wrong with people these days omg omg omg a black man is running for president we need to change history and vote this guy in haha what a **** up i would have rather seen SARAH PALIN in the office other than this fool...but i could keep talking about all the **** up he has done but my fingers would start bleeding
05-15-2010, 06:12 AM #59
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
Originally posted by knightryder77 View Post
Ok his is not even a american he was not born in the u.s.a in my book he is a immagrant... his mom is racist.. he use to go to a racist church. he is from a 3rd world country where the government runs everything. he is best friends with a terroist. he should have never won the noble peace prize.. wtf is wrong with people these days omg omg omg a black man is running for president we need to change history and vote this guy in haha what a **** up i would have rather seen SARAH PALIN in the office other than this fool...but i could keep talking about all the **** up he has done but my fingers would start bleeding


We need proof of these allegations. That's one thing most people are missing.
05-15-2010, 06:14 AM #60
THE_JoKeR
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Originally posted by knightryder77 View Post
Ok his is not even a american he was not born in the u.s.a in my book he is a immagrant... his mom is racist.. he use to go to a racist church. he is from a 3rd world country where the government runs everything. he is best friends with a terroist. he should have never won the noble peace prize.. wtf is wrong with people these days omg omg omg a black man is running for president we need to change history and vote this guy in haha what a **** up i would have rather seen SARAH PALIN in the office other than this fool...but i could keep talking about all the **** up he has done but my fingers would start bleeding


Its retards like you who make all republicans look bad.

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05-15-2010, 09:39 AM #61
rjive
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Originally posted by knightryder77 View Post
Ok his is not even a american he was not born in the u.s.a in my book he is a immagrant... his mom is racist.. he use to go to a racist church. he is from a 3rd world country where the government runs everything. he is best friends with a terroist. he should have never won the noble peace prize.. wtf is wrong with people these days omg omg omg a black man is running for president we need to change history and vote this guy in haha what a **** up i would have rather seen SARAH PALIN in the office other than this fool...but i could keep talking about all the **** up he has done but my fingers would start bleeding


Part of what you're saying is true...

1) Ties to racist church - Obama sat, for twenty years, in the pews listening to Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Who has clearly demonstrated his racism and hatred towards the "white man and white America." I find it a bit hard to believe that President Obama "never heard" this sort of rhetoric during the twenty years going to that church. Additionally the You must login or register to view this content. has prublished & public acknowledgement of racism. They're "You must login or register to view this content." are listed as commitment to God, commitment to the Black Community and commitment to the Black Family. This is validation that Rev. Wright spewed hate which President Obama certainly received and never condemned. Never condemned until the public called him out on his relationship with Rev. Wright. Why did he listen for all those years? For political power or is it that he believes this? Now tell me if a white church had such a core value system people wouldn't condemn it as a KKK organisation or racist?? 100% double standard.

ABC news story:
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2) Clearly President Obama has to be a US citizen to hold the office so we can dismiss that argument.

3) His mother is from Kansas. Father from Kenya. Raised in Hawaii. I have not found any racism from either parent in my research.

3) Friends with a terrorist - I presume you're talking about the relationship with You must login or register to view this content.. Bill Ayers is the founder of Weather Underground which is an open advocate for communism. You must login or register to view this content.

Originally posted by RICHIE209 View Post
We need proof of these allegations. That's one thing most people are missing.


See above.

Originally posted by JoKeR View Post
Its retards like you who make all republicans look bad.


I believe you're mistaken a bit here. It's "retards" like this that try and participate in a debate without make a definitive point with supporting evidence of that point. Regardless of the side of the isle. There are several "pro" Obama people making the same types of claims... "At least it's not Bush." Uneducated arguments are almost comical. Sad, but comical. Smile

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05-15-2010, 05:25 PM #62
THE_JoKeR
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Originally posted by rjive View Post

There are several "pro" Obama people making the same types of claims... "At least it's not Bush." Uneducated arguments are almost comical. Sad, but comical. Smile


Of course there are plenty of uneducated democrats whos only arguments are "he's black so he's awesome" or "at least its not Bush" but when someone claims "Obama wasn't born here" or "he's the antichrist" its not just uneducated but its blindly following propaganda because they heard it on tv and instantly believe it without question which gets to me more.

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05-15-2010, 06:09 PM #63
rjive
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Originally posted by JoKeR View Post
Of course there are plenty of uneducated democrats whos only arguments are "he's black so he's awesome" or "at least its not Bush" but when someone claims "Obama wasn't born here" or "he's the antichrist" its not just uneducated but its blindly following propaganda because they heard it on tv and instantly believe it without question which gets to me more.


I agree it's blindly following someone's opinion. As a result, I posted the information the proved & disproved the gentleman's statements.

I'm not going to say Obama is the Antichrist, however he is severely damaging this country... spending double what President Bush has in 80% less time. At this rate, the national debit will increase 74.27% by the end of his four year term. In real dollars he will have over spent by approximately 8.17 trillion. I say over spent... meaning he'll have spent more (8.17 trillion) more than our national will take in from tax receipts.

So logically, what do you think the appropriate steps are to rectify this situation? I see two options.

1) raise taxes - Slippery slope here people. Once we give more money to the government... do you think they'll give it back (cut taxes) later once the debt is covered? Or will they continue to keep it? I submit they'll keep it, spend it and some.

2) reduce spending - spend inside our budget which requires cuts on ALL programs and not passing costly bills like the heath care gov't. option bill.

By the way, the Health Care bill will cost US tax payers 940 billion. This is 34.29% more than the costly TARP that President Bush put through in 2008. It's also 30% more than what we have spent on the Iraq war (2001-present). It's 1,223.94% more than what we've spent on Afghanistan (2001-present). It's 5.43% less than the two "wars" cost combined (2001-present).
05-15-2010, 06:42 PM #64
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Personally I think you should wait until the end of his presidency to judge him. Things don't just happen over night in politics, they sometimes take years. At the end you can see what has changed since he's been in power and weigh up if you are better or worse off.

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