Post: The Far Right or the Far Left?
07-12-2010, 09:51 PM #1
noone12
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Personally, I prefer the far right because I value de jure freedom over de facto equality. The latter is simply not practical, whereas the former is, in theory, the position of the United States (supported by the Constitution).

Also, I prefer tradition over change. Change is not some kind of inherently good thing--there is such thing as bad change. Social Darwinism is also a much better policy than multiculturalism. I also like the idea of private charity more than public welfare, as I like the ability to delegate which individuals/causes my money goes to instead of trusting the government.
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07-24-2010, 11:43 PM #29
elfmotat
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Originally posted by noone12 View Post
That's just it--you're asserting that theres' nothing there without evidence. I'm claiming that I don't know--I follow through faith, love, and hope. In case you're unaware of the concept of logic, the person making the assertion (you) bears the burden of truth. Prove that God is not real. I don't need to prove one way or the other--consider me an agnostic a-atheist. If you were an agnostic atheist, neither isde would have the burden of truth. But you're not. You outright claim that God exists without supporting your argument.

I'll illustrate this in a way that is on topic.

Here, one could take the position that the Holocaust never occurred and was an excuse for sympathy and entitlement for the Jews. As such, the burden of truth would be his--he needs to provide evidence that the Holocaust did occur, and then one could attempt to discredit his evidence (perhaps by finding evidence suggesting otherwise).

Do you understand now? I'm claiming that you have no proof, and you can't provide any. Not that it's a personal matter, as you are physically incapable of finding any evidence that the omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient God does not exist. So don't feel too bad in that respect. It's a natural flaw that comes with gnostic atheism.

Also, I would not care to continue this "argument" in the other thread, as your side of the argument is, as I have already claimed (and as we both already know), incapable of providing factual support. So no, I would not care to hear more unwarranted bickering on your behalf. It's obvious that you really don't care about the facts, you just don't want to feel that God exists, as you have no actual support. If you still think that you don't need support, then the arguemnt is over (although it was before it started). Good day.


I'm not sure what that post had to do with me. Did you click the wrong button?
07-24-2010, 11:45 PM #30
noone12
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Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
I'm not sure what that post had to do with me. Did you click the wrong button?

No, I was providing an example based on a statement you made.
07-25-2010, 12:03 AM #31
Spaz-
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i dont know what those are, so ill put right because im right handed Smile
07-25-2010, 02:14 AM #32
elfmotat
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Originally posted by noone12 View Post
No, I was providing an example based on a statement you made.


No you didn't. You responded to something I didn't even say. You said nothing relevant to what I wrote. I never once mentioned god in this thread.
07-25-2010, 04:42 AM #33
noone12
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Originally posted by elfmotat View Post
No you didn't. You responded to something I didn't even say. You said nothing relevant to what I wrote. I never once mentioned god in this thread.

Look closer.
Originally posted by another user
Originally Posted by elfmotat View Post
The Nazis based their Aryan Race idea and Antisemitism on Social Darwinism.

Here, one could take the position that the Holocaust never occurred and was an excuse for sympathy and entitlement for the Jews. As such, the burden of truth would be his--he needs to provide evidence that the Holocaust did occur, and then one could attempt to discredit his evidence (perhaps by finding evidence suggesting otherwise).

It was merely a hypothetical example.
07-25-2010, 10:02 AM #34
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by noone12 View Post
You outright claim that God exists without supporting your argument.
I've been claiming the other way all along lol. Check my posts... Any, lets both man up and agree to disagree. This petty argument is just silly.
07-25-2010, 05:46 PM #35
noone12
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Originally posted by PR1CEY View Post
I've been claiming the other way all along lol. Check my posts... Any, lets both man up and agree to disagree. This petty argument is just silly.

It was a typo. But yes, I agree with you.
07-25-2010, 05:48 PM #36
Pricey91
Professor of trollology
Originally posted by noone12 View Post
It was a typo. But yes, I agree with you.


Good stuff. :angel:
07-26-2010, 03:58 PM #37
elfmotat
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Originally posted by noone12 View Post
Look closer.

It was merely a hypothetical example.


That "example" is still completely irrelevant to everything I said.

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