Post: 2010 NFL Season Discussion
08-04-2010, 12:26 AM #1
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08-30-2010, 07:54 PM #47
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Originally posted by Insertion View Post
Surprise team of the year: Houston Texans make it into second round of the playoffs.


I can see this happening I mean last year they had numerous games that they lost that they had the opportunity to win on the last drive.

The Texans are a solid football team with arguably the best QB & WR in the game! @least they are the best QB WR combo in the NFL..... I DARE someone to try to refute that.

But I can see the Texans with a winning record and knocking someone out in the playoffs with a big "upset"
08-30-2010, 08:05 PM #48
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Originally posted by alleviate View Post
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08-30-2010, 08:47 PM #49
MintEdition
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Originally posted by gwap View Post
I can see this happening I mean last year they had numerous games that they lost that they had the opportunity to win on the last drive.

The Texans are a solid football team with arguably the best QB & WR in the game! @least they are the best QB WR combo in the NFL..... I DARE someone to try to refute that.

But I can see the Texans with a winning record and knocking someone out in the playoffs with a big "upset"


You can make an argument for Schaub/Johnson, just like others can make an argument the Brady/Welker or Manning/Wayne. Its a toss up that one could argue all day.

I do like the Texans this season. Solid all around with a very good offense, great if they can run the ball like they did against Dallas. The defense played very well against Dallas and kept Romo under pressure all game long.
08-30-2010, 09:08 PM #50
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Originally posted by alleviate View Post
You can make an argument for Schaub/Johnson, just like others can make an argument the Brady/Welker or Manning/Wayne. Its a toss up that one could argue all day.

I do like the Texans this season. Solid all around with a very good offense, great if they can run the ball like they did against Dallas. The defense played very well against Dallas and kept Romo under pressure all game long.


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Brees/Entire Saints O-Line
08-30-2010, 09:10 PM #51
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Originally posted by alleviate View Post
You can make an argument for Schaub/Johnson, just like others can make an argument the Brady/Welker or Manning/Wayne. Its a toss up that one could argue all day.

I do like the Texans this season. Solid all around with a very good offense, great if they can run the ball like they did against Dallas. The defense played very well against Dallas and kept Romo under pressure all game long.


official...

Matt Schaub was the #1 QB in terms of yards last season (4770), 29 TDs, and 15 INTs.
Andre Johnson was the #1 WR in terms of yards last season (1569), and 9 TD's, 22 receptions of 20+ yards, 101 recpetions.

Peyton Manning was the #2 QB in terms of yards last season (4500), had 33 TD's, and 16 INTs.
Reggie Wayne was the #5 WR in terms of yards last season (1264), and 10 TD's, 20 receptions of 20+ yards, and 100 receptions.

Tom Brady was the #5 QB in terms of yards last season (4389), had 28 TD's, and 13 INTs.
Wes Welker was the #2 WR in terms of yards last season (134Cool Man (aka Tustin), and 4 TD's, 8 receptions of 20+ yards, and 123 receptions.

SO if you take last season's state into effect then what does that tell you?

IMO it tells me that Schaub & Johnson are the #1 QB to WR combo in the league as of 8/30/2010. If you take into account the amount of completions to receptions then you would see that Wes Welker was responsible for 33% of Brady's completions and Johnson was responsible for 25%. Then this is where the #s come into play. AJ had 221 more yards with 22 less catches. He also had over double the amount of TD's that Welker had.
So when you take all of these factors into account then this shows that Andre Johnson and Matt Schaub are the best QB to WR combo in the NFL.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't!
08-30-2010, 11:16 PM #52
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Originally posted by gwap View Post
official...

Matt Schaub was the #1 QB in terms of yards last season (4770), 29 TDs, and 15 INTs.
Andre Johnson was the #1 WR in terms of yards last season (1569), and 9 TD's, 22 receptions of 20+ yards, 101 recpetions.

Peyton Manning was the #2 QB in terms of yards last season (4500), had 33 TD's, and 16 INTs.
Reggie Wayne was the #5 WR in terms of yards last season (1264), and 10 TD's, 20 receptions of 20+ yards, and 100 receptions.

Tom Brady was the #5 QB in terms of yards last season (4389), had 28 TD's, and 13 INTs.
Wes Welker was the #2 WR in terms of yards last season (134Cool Man (aka Tustin), and 4 TD's, 8 receptions of 20+ yards, and 123 receptions.

SO if you take last season's state into effect then what does that tell you?

IMO it tells me that Schaub & Johnson are the #1 QB to WR combo in the league as of 8/30/2010. If you take into account the amount of completions to receptions then you would see that Wes Welker was responsible for 33% of Brady's completions and Johnson was responsible for 25%. Then this is where the #s come into play. AJ had 221 more yards with 22 less catches. He also had over double the amount of TD's that Welker had.
So when you take all of these factors into account then this shows that Andre Johnson and Matt Schaub are the best QB to WR combo in the NFL.

Men lie, women lie, numbers don't!



Actually, stats do lie in many ways. Your numbers don't take into account the 2 games Manning and Wayne didn't play in at the end of the year, nor does it take into account Welker missing basically one game when he blew out his knee last season. So right there are two things your numbers fail to take into account.

Also, the only thing those numbers say is they were the best last year. The only way you could deem who is indeed the best is would be to crunch the numbers since all have paired up and played together. Those numbers will show a Schuab to Johnson connection would have nothing on a Manning/Wayne or Brady/Welker.

This is simply one of those things no matter who you talk to they may have a different opinion then yours. Schuab/Johnson are a helluva tandem and if they stay healthy will be for years to come, but not everyone is going to say they are the best in the NFL.
08-30-2010, 11:30 PM #53
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Originally posted by alleviate View Post
Actually, stats do lie in many ways. Your numbers don't take into account the 2 games Manning and Wayne didn't play in at the end of the year, nor does it take into account Welker missing basically one game when he blew out his knee last season. So right there are two things your numbers fail to take into account.

Also, the only thing those numbers say is they were the best last year. The only way you could deem who is indeed the best is would be to crunch the numbers since all have paired up and played together. Those numbers will show a Schuab to Johnson connection would have nothing on a Manning/Wayne or Brady/Welker.

This is simply one of those things no matter who you talk to they may have a different opinion then yours. Schuab/Johnson are a helluva tandem and if they stay healthy will be for years to come, but not everyone is going to say they are the best in the NFL.


Yea and when you go by when they paired up the Shuab Johnson combo is better than Brady/Welker or Manning/Wayne (Not Manning/ Harrison).

But if Manning played then he would have beat Schaub in passing yards. BUT even if Wayne and Welker played they would NOT have beaten Andre Johnson.

but like u stated it is a matter of opinion, but the #'s support my opinion
08-30-2010, 11:54 PM #54
MintEdition
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Originally posted by gwap View Post
Yea and when you go by when they paired up the Shuab Johnson combo is better than Brady/Welker or Manning/Wayne (Not Manning/ Harrison).

But if Manning played then he would have beat Schaub in passing yards. BUT even if Wayne and Welker played they would NOT have beaten Andre Johnson.

but like u stated it is a matter of opinion, but the #'s support my opinion


Stats since 07 (When Schaub and Johnson first paired)

Manning (Passing Yards 12560, TDs 91)

Schaub (Passing Yards 10054, TDs 53)

Brady (Passing Yards 9024, TDs 78 TDs)

Keeping mind Brady missed the entire 08 season so Brady's numbers are actually for 2 years.

WR

Johnson (Receiving Yards 3995, Receptions 276, TDs 25)

Welker ( Receiving Yards 3688, Receptions 346, TDs 15)

Wayne (Receiving Yards 3919, Receptions 286, TDs 26)


These numbers also don't take in to count that Johnson is the man in Houston. He doesn't have someone the caliber of Dallas Clark like Wayne, or Moss like Welker taking away from their overall numbers.

I love Andre Johnson, I'd take him to play on my team any day.
09-02-2010, 12:42 AM #55
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End of the preseason finally coming near the real games are almost here. Can't wait, at least CFB will hold me over for another week.

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