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We are all member's of NextGenUpdate and whatever can value and make the site and community grow for yourself and every other member is great. We are all a community of NextGenUpdate. Also this can be a thread to make yourself shine! In this thread you can put what has happened to you since you have been here as a member. Remember great moments, Greatest laughs, supporting the site. Anything you want or even to leave your mark here in this thread saying I was here as a member of NextGenUpdate. This is suppose to be something fun guy's something we can all look back on when ever you want and say I remember this that etc... Now with all that being said.

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-Reaper

Lol, yeah I guess, just gay how they would talk about users privately.

What could I start by saying? I'm going to be honest this site has its flaws and it's strength, Much of which you would notice if your a active member on this site for quite sometime.

Over the past Month, I have seen a lot things around NGU, a lot of these things have left me thinking in a very synical way for the future of this site, as for the reason behind this, Well there wasn't much you could've done at such a low post/Rep count, I mean for someone to realise who you are when you only have 1 post and 10 rep is near to impossible, Dopey being the user with the most Rep on this site (Almost 30 000), Makes you will insignificant, Don't Get me wrong Dopey is an awesome Guy!

This did all change when I actually decided to put the effort in, and well as you can see it's clearly paying of, much of it reflected here today in this post where i'm doing quite well for myself, I have tried to contribute as much as I can to this site and I aim to continue in doing so but the thing is there will always be obstacles along the way, These obstacles if I trip over these obstacles, I will get back and Continue to contribute to a site which could indefinitely surpass its archenemies

I guess you could say NGU is like a Game of Chess, Sometimes you win, and Sometimes you lose! To win you You must plan ahead, and my plan is set in stone, To bring whatever I can into NGU and Hopefully help it grow into something better than it is today!

Until then see you around

I'd remove the time i posted Porn on the forums, Katy Perry :love:

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Alright, this is a long list....

As of January 29th, 2011, I love:

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And as of January 29th, 2011, Happy Birthday to:

tomsaladfingers (8, crispypancakes (85), kdogkid123 (55), gfBUTpwned (53), InSaNiTYZHD (53), LbpAmii, mater426 (49), crashbash700 (47), ladypegasus (45), qxzw (44), LAADS (36), adriennerose, jmoney11011 (34), bigboiz (34), bobby5 (32), reidanderson (31), jordiiscool (31), o-yeah (31), hotringracer (31), HitmanModz (31), edward3058 (31), guapo93 (31), o_HaZaRDouS- (31), zachnabox (31), fat_ginger (30), Hanywella (30), Danas (30), ssminnow123 (2, djmartens (27), xxx999venom (27), xBeanlicker (27), WillPay4b/oHack, lynxcali (26), mikestromboli (26), deranker1634 (26), koruptfrosty (26), tredsaeret12 (26), tristan4444 (26), private_maniak (26), pola g (25), dales234, sniperwolfjp, GoyaX05 (24), homiecdog123 (24), xCLxHACKZxMODZx (23), codkiler (23), isamu11isamu (23), xTiiNy clan (23), detzel, tomzk111 (22), scotia290180 (22), eX55eX (22), westie1989 (22), PATRK (22), elperro_123 (22), kurd1234 (22), eric2869 (22), codlovr (22), azyaka (22), jefferz_ferrari (22), Skyzod324 (21), kastle (21), moonfrog (21), i<3modlobbys (21), xBigBo0ty_Andyx (21), eyesofdark1990 (21), Soracaz (21), camz14 (21), Deathoralive (21), tylerhicks69 (21), ExZoReFLeXz (21), dema (21), BountyKiller (21), CJ_M (21), wrexham (21), PUMA1234 (21), CODEICE (21), giantdino (21), maxsplunt (21), sfghsdkjfhsdklf (21), youtub382932893 (21), Sazen (21), ryanpowney (21), D34D_BOLT (21), xG_HaXoRz (21), B_VNano (21), mr.patch666 (21), firemod (21), gt-emre (21), Upas_Uraster (21), Lewis11895 (21), ThePurePart (21), vMoDz-Q (21), azeem262 (21), bite (21), xlxdeclanxlx (21), Jordan_skates (21), pepijn123 (21), DaveK20A (21), dzos (21), Michalg (21), ckthestar (21), dashootaz (21), jordan9000 (21), wrl (21), shaq10299 (21), albouzet (21), J0k3rmen455 (21), roben289 (21), fOmey (20), iloveps (20), Axphenom (20), killerhog (19), L3G!T (19), thruth_99 (19), HAMBONEx (19), 291992 (19), Jason9302 (19), GRiiZly-- (1, brehi (1, iTz_BRYANT_113 (17), randy617 (17), NJ xG E A R S17, InTeRvEnTioN v1, and sadgfag (11).

I love you guys. <3

Let's see then.

I've been here a long while, and I have logged in most days since I joined the site. The site will become iconic, and I think it will hit 1 million members at some point. Why? Because it keeps people coming back; it is fun to be on here, with the community.

i initially joined july 2008 on a different account that was banned. came back in july 2010 with this account. literally used to live about 2 miles from outsider. i now hang out in the Sb, and post in threads with as much common sense as possible. LOL. i dont want a mod position, just want to chill on a site thats not immature. so far, not going as planned..LOL