Post: Thoughts/Ideas for NGU 2011
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12-23-2010, 12:57 AM
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PrayForPlagues
The Black Key
This may look like a rant thread but is not intended to be one. I just want to voice my thoughts on making this site not be a shithole. If I can help to do this then yay us, because somebody obviously agreed with me. Anyways, there are so many places to start, and before I do, I just want to say one thing: I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE IN THIS THREAD, SO DON'T TAKE IT AS A DIRECT OFFENSE.
Okay :bro:
-I know staff hate me, and some of them have a reason. But really the ones that dont know me, or I have never pissed off (I dont think) shouldnt go along with the other staff. They need their OWN opinions, with shared opinions because someone said something is only going to make the staff shit. This isnt directed to anyone specifically, but this goes for any OTHER member who is getting treated the same way. We know what we have done, and we dont need mods we dont even know to judge from what they hear. (God I sound like an emotional teenager seeing a double rainbow).
-Dont get into shit that has nothing to do with you. This goes for members, and staff. Be honest here. If there was a guy and a girl having troubles in their relationship at your school, would you step in and take sides? No. because if you did you would get the other half hating you, so really dont do that on NGU. Everyone here has atleast one friend who has friends etc etc. Its only making NGU a shithole by people getting/starting shit.
-As once discussed, the asskissing, Gobble cleared that up but I tried telling him that an admin reacting like that might not be the smartest move, but its his choice and he is the admin, so I have no control over what happens. Thanks for clearing it up Gobz.
-Be more open to suggestions. Simple as that
-I came back for the reason of missing the people I got close to over the years I have spent with NGU. When someone leaves for 3 months are you still honestly going to hold a grudge on them for TROLLING? 3 MONTHS YOU CAN CHANGE. Anyways my main point is to give people a second chance.
-More Staff? Well I recently just seen that 3 admins retired/got demoted. So I know this may or may not be necessary but people need to get promoted to higher spots.
-READ THIS: Promotions should NOT be based on popularity. Some of the times I can see that people who are popular are usually very helpful, but in all reality there are people who deserve it WAY more and try WAY harder (Paul is a perfect example.. had barely any posts but worked his ass off). You should also make some new requirements for staff positions, but at the same time be more open. If you guys can understand that, believe me rages wont happen on promotion days.
-Now to stop complaining. I like what you guys did with the Auctions forum. Expanding like that is a big win, and will profit alot, maybe beta that with other sections?
VV MEMBERS THOUGHTS/IDEAS VV
Another thing is moderators have to be like cops. What I mean by this is that if they get called a name or anything like that they can't just go infract the person, that is just abusing your power.. That is the same as a cop because I mean if somebody calls them a name or does something they don't like they can't just go throw them in jail. The reason I bring this up is I have seen infractions getting reversed due to the fact that a rule wasn't broken and the moderator was just getting even I might say.
Again, I didnt mean this to be a rant and in no way in my opinion is it a rant. Its just a general discussion topic. Now why is it General Discussion? I want to hear YOUR ideas for the NGU 2011 year. What could make it better? Whats bad about it right now?
Thanks,
Pray
Okay :bro:
-I know staff hate me, and some of them have a reason. But really the ones that dont know me, or I have never pissed off (I dont think) shouldnt go along with the other staff. They need their OWN opinions, with shared opinions because someone said something is only going to make the staff shit. This isnt directed to anyone specifically, but this goes for any OTHER member who is getting treated the same way. We know what we have done, and we dont need mods we dont even know to judge from what they hear. (God I sound like an emotional teenager seeing a double rainbow).
-Dont get into shit that has nothing to do with you. This goes for members, and staff. Be honest here. If there was a guy and a girl having troubles in their relationship at your school, would you step in and take sides? No. because if you did you would get the other half hating you, so really dont do that on NGU. Everyone here has atleast one friend who has friends etc etc. Its only making NGU a shithole by people getting/starting shit.
-As once discussed, the asskissing, Gobble cleared that up but I tried telling him that an admin reacting like that might not be the smartest move, but its his choice and he is the admin, so I have no control over what happens. Thanks for clearing it up Gobz.
-Be more open to suggestions. Simple as that
-I came back for the reason of missing the people I got close to over the years I have spent with NGU. When someone leaves for 3 months are you still honestly going to hold a grudge on them for TROLLING? 3 MONTHS YOU CAN CHANGE. Anyways my main point is to give people a second chance.
-More Staff? Well I recently just seen that 3 admins retired/got demoted. So I know this may or may not be necessary but people need to get promoted to higher spots.
-READ THIS: Promotions should NOT be based on popularity. Some of the times I can see that people who are popular are usually very helpful, but in all reality there are people who deserve it WAY more and try WAY harder (Paul is a perfect example.. had barely any posts but worked his ass off). You should also make some new requirements for staff positions, but at the same time be more open. If you guys can understand that, believe me rages wont happen on promotion days.
-Now to stop complaining. I like what you guys did with the Auctions forum. Expanding like that is a big win, and will profit alot, maybe beta that with other sections?
VV MEMBERS THOUGHTS/IDEAS VV
Originally posted by Chrom3
- More active staff. To get a spot on staff, what do you have to do? Make a lot of threads and be active. I don't see them still carrying that factor on, when they get promoted.
- Be more "open" about the staff choosing. Not all 13 year old kids at immature. The leechers gave people that are younger than 15 a bad "rep" around the internet. Some 13 and 14 year old kids are mature enough to handle a spot on staff. Even though there's only a handful of them on the internet, they're here. I bet you judge me by my posts , threads, and they way I handle my self you wouldn't have known I was 13 years old.
Those were the two main things that I wasn't too pleased with here. Well, 2011 is a new year and I hope it can bring a long new changes with it. Merry Christmas to all and have a Happy New Year!
- Be more "open" about the staff choosing. Not all 13 year old kids at immature. The leechers gave people that are younger than 15 a bad "rep" around the internet. Some 13 and 14 year old kids are mature enough to handle a spot on staff. Even though there's only a handful of them on the internet, they're here. I bet you judge me by my posts , threads, and they way I handle my self you wouldn't have known I was 13 years old.
Those were the two main things that I wasn't too pleased with here. Well, 2011 is a new year and I hope it can bring a long new changes with it. Merry Christmas to all and have a Happy New Year!
Originally posted by Snow
[I want to see some people on here calm down a little bit. I mean, when I first joined a few months ago, people were pretty nice, and there was no initial hate between members. But in the ShoutBox, I see people flaming all the time, even out of nothing. Too much arguing :n:
I also think members should be respecting the mods a bit more. When ever some users do something they even know was wrong, they start to call the mod stupid, and write mean comments on their visitor messages. People don't realize all mods aren't TRYING to get them infracted or banned, they are just doing their job.
I also think members should be respecting the mods a bit more. When ever some users do something they even know was wrong, they start to call the mod stupid, and write mean comments on their visitor messages. People don't realize all mods aren't TRYING to get them infracted or banned, they are just doing their job.
Originally posted by PacMan
Another thing is moderators have to be like cops. What I mean by this is that if they get called a name or anything like that they can't just go infract the person, that is just abusing your power.. That is the same as a cop because I mean if somebody calls them a name or does something they don't like they can't just go throw them in jail. The reason I bring this up is I have seen infractions getting reversed due to the fact that a rule wasn't broken and the moderator was just getting even I might say.
Originally posted by Cpt.Slow
Yeah I hate the fact that soon as someone gets promoted to moderator they think they are super and act like they know everything. And if someone says something bad about them e.g. give their opinion on the moderator, the moderator will have a brain tumour and infract them -.-
Also i just wanted to say i hate people who thank post's by staff just because they are staff regardless of the post :/
Also!! I like alot of the staff here but it just annoys me that whenever you go in the SB you are kinda shunned upon because you aren't in there 24/7 and you're not in their posse
Also i just wanted to say i hate people who thank post's by staff just because they are staff regardless of the post :/
Also!! I like alot of the staff here but it just annoys me that whenever you go in the SB you are kinda shunned upon because you aren't in there 24/7 and you're not in their posse
Originally posted by xDylan
Alright here it goes, Im going to divide it into 2 parts- the regular community and the staff.
I think the regular community (us premiums and non-prems) should not be so hard on the mods ALL the time. I think its fine to complain about them sometimes, but the general community needs to not complain about them so much. Im going to TRY and be nicer to all the staff in 2011. They are all human too and make mistakes. And yeah this probably doesnt mean much coming from a guy who got infracted within the last week for insulting staff, but whatever. Also, I think the general community needs to worry less about reputation. Rep starts so many arguments on this site it's unbelievable. We shoudnt take rep so seriously. We should treat it as a nice feature of the forums, but not the only thing that matters. Another problem is asskissing. A lot of members do suck up to the mods and it's pretty obvious. It also angers the others that dont like to be suck ups. We all know people on this site that suck up to try and get a mod spot. My suggestion to those that asskiss all the time: stop. You can still have a chance at a spot on staff but you dont have to asskiss. I think if the general community treated mods just like regular members without sucking up to them, then this forum would be a lot nicer place.
Now for the second part- the staff. In 2011, I think the admins REALLY need to start making progress on the site (homepage etc...). This site really has not made any changes since I got here a year ago except that there has been more leechers and lots of staff changes. This site needs to start upgrading, and we all know it. Another thing the admins should do is consider more site suggestions. Very rarely do you see any suggestions passing, and a lot of times there are some good suggestions that go unnoticed/rejected for a dumb reason. Also, I think that they should re-evaulate the way scammers are disciplined. If you're convicted of scamming, you should either A) be permabanned or B) be permanently banned from the auction section if it was a minor offense. For the moderators, I think they need to be willing to change a little bit. I dont think they should be closing a thread just because it was bumped 1 time or because a little flame war started. Just delete the flame comments and leave the thread open. Over-modding has been a bit of a problem lately.
"That government is best which governs least" -Thomas Jefferson
I think the regular community (us premiums and non-prems) should not be so hard on the mods ALL the time. I think its fine to complain about them sometimes, but the general community needs to not complain about them so much. Im going to TRY and be nicer to all the staff in 2011. They are all human too and make mistakes. And yeah this probably doesnt mean much coming from a guy who got infracted within the last week for insulting staff, but whatever. Also, I think the general community needs to worry less about reputation. Rep starts so many arguments on this site it's unbelievable. We shoudnt take rep so seriously. We should treat it as a nice feature of the forums, but not the only thing that matters. Another problem is asskissing. A lot of members do suck up to the mods and it's pretty obvious. It also angers the others that dont like to be suck ups. We all know people on this site that suck up to try and get a mod spot. My suggestion to those that asskiss all the time: stop. You can still have a chance at a spot on staff but you dont have to asskiss. I think if the general community treated mods just like regular members without sucking up to them, then this forum would be a lot nicer place.
Now for the second part- the staff. In 2011, I think the admins REALLY need to start making progress on the site (homepage etc...). This site really has not made any changes since I got here a year ago except that there has been more leechers and lots of staff changes. This site needs to start upgrading, and we all know it. Another thing the admins should do is consider more site suggestions. Very rarely do you see any suggestions passing, and a lot of times there are some good suggestions that go unnoticed/rejected for a dumb reason. Also, I think that they should re-evaulate the way scammers are disciplined. If you're convicted of scamming, you should either A) be permabanned or B) be permanently banned from the auction section if it was a minor offense. For the moderators, I think they need to be willing to change a little bit. I dont think they should be closing a thread just because it was bumped 1 time or because a little flame war started. Just delete the flame comments and leave the thread open. Over-modding has been a bit of a problem lately.
"That government is best which governs least" -Thomas Jefferson
Originally posted by Mr.KANE
Everyone should get a clean slate, I seem to get on with most if not all members and staff. That is how it should be for everyone. I think if you have a dispute with someone or you just don't like them in 2011 on NGU you should out it behind you as we can't keep living in the dark or we will never move forward.
Originally posted by Toastmonkey
I agree with Chrom3 on being more open about staff. Around the time of the Modern Warfare 2 Challenge Lobbies is when the younger generation got a bad name. Because it was mostly 12-15 year olds leeching for them. Maybe in this post I'm acting as if I'm not 12, but a lot of people don't know my age. Yes, I am 12.
When I've said it to people, not a lot of them believe me because I'm mature. Some 12 year olds around this place are a lot more immature than I. The only way I can think that anyone could guess my age is, I do tend to flame easily..
I'd also like to see NGU be a more welcoming and happy community.
When I've said it to people, not a lot of them believe me because I'm mature. Some 12 year olds around this place are a lot more immature than I. The only way I can think that anyone could guess my age is, I do tend to flame easily..
I'd also like to see NGU be a more welcoming and happy community.
Originally posted by LTBadBoy
- I would visit the site a lot more if the community was nicer. For example, if somebody like me went into the SB to say hi, they would get ignored by everybody in the SB. The site would seem a lot more attractive if the community was more welcoming. And yes, for people like me, the site really is like this.
- Stop being so serious staff. Damn, I post one joke about Bin Laden and it gets deleted in a matter of seconds. What's that about? Everybody knew it was a joke. There's more important stuff you can be doing than getting worked up over a harmless joke.
- Get Outsider more active or tell him to turn the invisible feature off. He has plenty of time for facebook but no time for NGU. Why is that? Surely he could come on for half an hour a few times a week. It feels like he's neglecting the site. Ask him to get back in touch with the community. The vast majority of the community don't know the guy.
That's all I have for now. If anything else comes to mind I'll add it.
- Stop being so serious staff. Damn, I post one joke about Bin Laden and it gets deleted in a matter of seconds. What's that about? Everybody knew it was a joke. There's more important stuff you can be doing than getting worked up over a harmless joke.
- Get Outsider more active or tell him to turn the invisible feature off. He has plenty of time for facebook but no time for NGU. Why is that? Surely he could come on for half an hour a few times a week. It feels like he's neglecting the site. Ask him to get back in touch with the community. The vast majority of the community don't know the guy.
That's all I have for now. If anything else comes to mind I'll add it.
Originally posted by Philosoraptor
I would definitely say be more friendly to everyone, and try and drop 4chan related trolling. Just so everyone feels welcome whether they be a leach or someone who just made a mistake.
Also Take out Negative Rep, Rep should only be given if the member has done something right, and Negative 'Repping can quickly become abused.
Also Take out Negative Rep, Rep should only be given if the member has done something right, and Negative 'Repping can quickly become abused.
Originally posted by Jamie
to even get a hello from a random other memebr is like amazing some people even printscreen it, is this how friendly we are? Last time i looked on NGU it got rep for being a FRIENDLY forum, well this must be NGU because we never get a hello in the SB
Originally posted by Botz
How about when the admins say something, they actually do it.
Originally posted by Deityy
no offense, but like you said, i want a more active staff, especially vBookie...
Originally posted by GuitarSlash
I think we should have an equal system. Aka Staff are equal to premium and non premium member, As some mods dont get infracted for flaming ect where as premium and non premiums do.
This would be fair on every user and make the forum more of a better community.
This would be fair on every user and make the forum more of a better community.
Originally posted by lmg123
Staffs be able to infract staffs. Less abusing of their powers.
Originally posted by Dasher
I have been in the shoutbox alot lately and i notice that whenever there is a rule on the notice on what not to do, there are users who think it's hilarious and do it on purpose just for the hell of it, ya I understand a joke but once we have like 5+ people doing it as well, it gets chaotic, so basically members should know the rules and we shouldn't have to remind them because if they it in the notice they are just going to do it, if they still do it they should get banned from sb
Another thing, I've seen this a lot recently, that most of the non premiums always feel victimized when they do something wrong, then if you tell them something they get offended and start all this bs that we are picking on them just because they are non premium, like come on guys, if you are going to do something wrong, man up to it and face the consequences, don't coward away and make up stuff, be mature.....Like the other day a non prem and a prem were flamming and the non prem got mad because he thought I was only saying it to him. Reminder, when it comes to premium and non premiums, you are all treated the same with the rules, the only reason why it may look like the mods pick on the non premiums more is because they tend to break the rules more often
Idk if we have this already but we should have like a Member of the Year awards and a Staff of the Year awards, and have like different type of catergorized awards (most helpful, funniest, best member etc...)
Another thing, I've seen this a lot recently, that most of the non premiums always feel victimized when they do something wrong, then if you tell them something they get offended and start all this bs that we are picking on them just because they are non premium, like come on guys, if you are going to do something wrong, man up to it and face the consequences, don't coward away and make up stuff, be mature.....Like the other day a non prem and a prem were flamming and the non prem got mad because he thought I was only saying it to him. Reminder, when it comes to premium and non premiums, you are all treated the same with the rules, the only reason why it may look like the mods pick on the non premiums more is because they tend to break the rules more often
Idk if we have this already but we should have like a Member of the Year awards and a Staff of the Year awards, and have like different type of catergorized awards (most helpful, funniest, best member etc...)
Again, I didnt mean this to be a rant and in no way in my opinion is it a rant. Its just a general discussion topic. Now why is it General Discussion? I want to hear YOUR ideas for the NGU 2011 year. What could make it better? Whats bad about it right now?
Thanks,
Pray
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12-23-2010, 06:35 PM
#40
Reaper
The Grim Reaper
Originally posted by PrayX
I think I may tag along with you in helping the premium section..
VM something I should get started with
VM something I should get started with
I was going to start after like a new years things. Im busy with the holidays/family atm until new years. But over the last month I have just seen people saying that they donated for premium and then it just sucks, that just makes me sad.
I just want to get things going in there. I hate that the fact that people just go in there for porn logins most of the time. I just want spice it up and get something moving in there.
12-23-2010, 06:35 PM
#41
GuitarSlash
Big Daddy
12-23-2010, 06:49 PM
#43
ZerkOnFire
Banned
Originally posted by ginjlovestohack
alot of the people are scammers and hackers nd most are spam bots i dont even think they would notice if they were unbanned
It'd still be nice if everyone would get a second chance. And thinks for saying spam bots in your post it made me think of something :bro:
And there should be an automated bot that goes on peoples accounts and leaves visitor messages saying happy birthday on there birthday, and Happy Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, you know spread the joy for everyone
12-23-2010, 06:52 PM
#45
PrayForPlagues
The Black Key
Originally posted by ZerkOnFire
It'd still be nice if everyone would get a second chance. And thinks for saying spam bots in your post it made me think of something :bro:
And there should be an automated bot that goes on peoples accounts and leaves visitor messages saying happy birthday on there birthday, and Happy Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, you know spread the joy for everyone
And there should be an automated bot that goes on peoples accounts and leaves visitor messages saying happy birthday on there birthday, and Happy Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, you know spread the joy for everyone
That last idea would actually be really cool. If Outie auto posted on peoples profiles saying Merry Christmas...
12-23-2010, 06:53 PM
#46
ZerkOnFire
Banned
Originally posted by The
I was going to start after like a new years things. Im busy with the holidays/family atm until new years. But over the last month I have just seen people saying that they donated for premium and then it just sucks, that just makes me sad. I just want to get things going in there. I hate that the fact that people just go in there for porn logins most of the time. I just want spice it up and get something moving in there.
I just want to get things going in there. I hate that the fact that people just go in there for porn logins most of the time. I just want spice it up and get something moving in there.
Free movies and free music, codes for itunes apps? That'd be some stuff that might attract premiums/non-prems to buy prem?
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