Post: Self defense laws in the U.S
01-04-2011, 02:29 AM #1
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01-05-2011, 06:39 AM #20
Shadow_Killer
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Originally posted by IIxRKLFLxII View Post
thank you for posting shadow , you really dedicated time to organize this post . Theirs three things i don't agree with you . The 1st being that if someone "calls" you out . Unless they are racist or insulting women in your life ( don't be fooled by simple mom jokes , its in good fun) then yes kick their @$$. The next thing is carrying thinks like pepper spray. I do believe in ending the fight as quick as possible . Its not necessarily your scared or you don't want to throw a punch. BTW i am pretty sure carrying knifes is illegal everywhere in the U.S ( Please source this info if you can prove me wrong) . But pepper spray is legal basically everywhere and it can be bought in gas stations. The third thing is if someone robs you , This depends , if its someone as school/ don't punch him , but don't give him Nothing. If its at 1 am in a dark alley then yes just give him what he wants usually muggers have weapons. A Bullet is a bullet , a stab is a stab , no matter what remember that. But other than that you seem to have much knowledge . You also have a permit so you have the experience i am assuming . Also a tip from me avoid crowd fights their a bad idea , if your going to fight someone don't believe in that bull "we need witnesses" . The last thing i am going to say is for everyone . If no adult is listening , and you cant avoid a fight i would recommend going to shadow as he is not some drunken idiot he has legal facts.

Same here i am not responsible if you get into a fight because of my post(s).


Thank you very much RKLFL for your Response. and 1st. When i said i would fight a Person if they called me out that was in my "How I Think" Section that section is just me as a Individual, I Do Not Encourage people to copy how i am because i for 1 do not take Shit. If someone comes at me i will not run i have the right to defend my self. If someone thinks they are Tough and wants to fight me i Will go for it, I don't get mad if people make jokes i fight to prove that i am not a Coward(Yes It is Against the Law to fight for no reason, Unless there is a Probable Clause. I know that but remember i as a individual do not back down Unless it is in a Place where i will get Caught/In-trouble/Cause harm to others by Accident.)(I sound Ignorant, i know but its just how i grew up, you have to prove your self to gain respect)
2nd. I meant to Say "Pocket Knife" not "Knife" and Im not really in the Mood to goto the .Gov Site and look up the Penal Code for your State, but you can go to a Local Sporting Goods Store: Big5, Turners, Sport Chalet, Sport Authority.. and ask the workers there and they should be knowledgeable about the laws since they are selling the knifes(Thats a Much Faster way to get the Answer). In California you don't even have to be 18 to Carry a Pocket knife on you. (Source: California Police Penal Codes and Laws. It Dose NOT state a Age limit to the Age Required to carry a Knife)(I came upon that law a couple months ago when i was reading a Corner Investigator buddy of mines police handbook). Also i am not talking about getting mugged on school grounds. Personally if i was in high school and a kid told me "Give me all your Stuff" and 'Threatened to Beat me up" i would Punch him Right away and walk away and a teacher most likely would have seen it and Since you were Threatened you had the right to act in that manner(schools don't look at it that way though, they always say "If you have a Problem tell us right away") Also I suggest if any of you were to be getting mugged in the Streets to give the Guy your Things then Simply Go and Contact a Police officer Right away and be Happy you did not get injured! Me Personally i always like to fight off the person but i have experience so don't copy me Unless you have Great Knowledge of Disarming a Human(Even I can mess up and get murdered, it only takes 1 small mistake.). Also i Dont have a CCW you dident read that part right. I said "if" someone Runs at me with a Crowbar and i am a Legal CCW Permit Holder"
And Yes if anyone Needs Advice i am Always here for you guys.
For You Kids who want to learn some Disarming Moves and Technicians Youtube has some very informative videos on how to do them. Just make sure if you Do plan on trying to Disarm someone that you Practice Alot before ever trying to do it(I dont recommend you doing it Unless You Really have to Though, because 1 wrong move can decide if you Live or Die.!)

Like I Stated Before: I am not Responsible for anything you do with my Advice!
01-05-2011, 06:53 AM #21
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Err.. this stuff bores me.
01-05-2011, 06:56 AM #22
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Originally posted by Killer View Post
Thank you very much RKLFL for your Response. and 1st. When i said i would fight a Person if they called me out that was in my "How I Think" Section that section is just me as a Individual, I Do Not Encourage people to copy how i am because i for 1 do not take Shit. If someone comes at me i will not run i have the right to defend my self. If someone thinks they are Tough and wants to fight me i Will go for it, I don't get mad if people make jokes i fight to prove that i am not a Coward(Yes It is Against the Law to fight for no reason, Unless there is a Probable Clause. I know that but remember i as a individual do not back down Unless it is in a Place where i will get Caught/In-trouble/Cause harm to others by Accident.)(I sound Ignorant, i know but its just how i grew up, you have to prove your self to gain respect)
2nd. I meant to Say "Pocket Knife" not "Knife" and Im not really in the Mood to goto the .Gov Site and look up the Penal Code for your State, but you can go to a Local Sporting Goods Store: Big5, Turners, Sport Chalet, Sport Authority.. and ask the workers there and they should be knowledgeable about the laws since they are selling the knifes(Thats a Much Faster way to get the Answer). In California you don't even have to be 18 to Carry a Pocket knife on you. (Source: California Police Penal Codes and Laws. It Dose NOT state a Age limit to the Age Required to carry a Knife)(I came upon that law a couple months ago when i was reading a Corner Investigator buddy of mines police handbook). Also i am not talking about getting mugged on school grounds. Personally if i was in high school and a kid told me "Give me all your Stuff" and 'Threatened to Beat me up" i would Punch him Right away and walk away and a teacher most likely would have seen it and Since you were Threatened you had the right to act in that manner(schools don't look at it that way though, they always say "If you have a Problem tell us right away") Also I suggest if any of you were to be getting mugged in the Streets to give the Guy your Things then Simply Go and Contact a Police officer Right away and be Happy you did not get injured! Me Personally i always like to fight off the person but i have experience so don't copy me Unless you have Great Knowledge of Disarming a Human(Even I can mess up and get murdered, it only takes 1 small mistake.). Also i Dont have a CCW you dident read that part right. I said "if" someone Runs at me with a Crowbar and i am a Legal CCW Permit Holder"
And Yes if anyone Needs Advice i am Always here for you guys.
For You Kids who want to learn some Disarming Moves and Technicians Youtube has some very informative videos on how to do them. Just make sure if you Do plan on trying to Disarm someone that you Practice Alot before ever trying to do it(I dont recommend you doing it Unless You Really have to Though, because 1 wrong move can decide if you Live or Die.!)

Like I Stated Before: I am not Responsible for anything you do with my Advice!


oh i misunderstood the Permit part. But for the knife part i know that most states go by the legal size of the blade. But dont fight with a dull knife either . Yea and that part of the school system i agree. I see the "10 day suspensions" happen to many people who fought because they were cornered and even had their parents come to the school to try and fix it.

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Originally posted by CainFoool View Post
Err.. this stuff bores me.


Im sorry , i made this thread to hear people opinions , not to impress people so hop off.
01-05-2011, 06:56 AM #23
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Originally posted by CainFoool View Post
Err.. this stuff bores me.


Im sorry , i made this thread to hear people opinions , not to impress people so hop off.
01-06-2011, 02:29 AM #24
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Originally posted by IIxRKLFLxII View Post
oh i misunderstood the Permit part. But for the knife part i know that most states go by the legal size of the blade. But dont fight with a dull knife either . Yea and that part of the school system i agree. I see the "10 day suspensions" happen to many people who fought because they were cornered and even had their parents come to the school to try and fix it.


Its Cool don't worry Smile. Yes i know, when i say Pocket knife i mean the legal ones. But really you could have a dull knife and still use it, As long as there is a point even if its not sharp it takes little effort to stick it in someone. Thats wired, When i was a Freshmen i got in a fight Defending my self against a Soft-more and when i was sent u to the office i remember telling the Freshmen Principle what happened and she said i know you were just defending your self, but at this school "Anyone involved in a fight, Starting it or Defending your self" you will get suspended. But since i was just defending my self i only got suspended for that same day so i only missed my last 2 periods. But the other guy got 3 days since he Rushed me(Attacked me). The freshmen principle was so nice she called my dad and told him that i was in a fight and she told him "Dont be mad at your son, he dident do anything wrong, he was just defending his self"

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Originally posted by CainFoool View Post
Err.. this stuff bores me.


That post is %100 Unnecessary. If this stuff Bores you then why did you even Click this Thread, and why would you even post here if it bores you? :n:!
01-06-2011, 03:15 AM #25
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If this bores you gtfo.

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01-06-2011, 03:59 AM #26
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Originally posted by Killer View Post
Its Cool don't worry Smile. Yes i know, when i say Pocket knife i mean the legal ones. But really you could have a dull knife and still use it, As long as there is a point even if its not sharp it takes little effort to stick it in someone. Thats wired, When i was a Freshmen i got in a fight Defending my self against a Soft-more and when i was sent u to the office i remember telling the Freshmen Principle what happened and she said i know you were just defending your self, but at this school "Anyone involved in a fight, Starting it or Defending your self" you will get suspended. But since i was just defending my self i only got suspended for that same day so i only missed my last 2 periods. But the other guy got 3 days since he Rushed me(Attacked me). The freshmen principle was so nice she called my dad and told him that i was in a fight and she told him "Dont be mad at your son, he dident do anything wrong, he was just defending his self"

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That post is %100 Unnecessary. If this stuff Bores you then why did you even Click this Thread, and why would you even post here if it bores you? :n:!


yea high school fights usually happen in your freshmen and high school years. Im currently a Softmore , but i remeber the last week of summer people would tell you ridiulous rules like " Dont ask people for direction " ( Except people that have like Office aid) . But yea usually the softmores took so much crap their freshmen year they take it out in the new coming students. But the staff has favriotism over the freshemen and the seniors . So the person that charged at you in your freshmen year is a D-BAG . Btw freshmen principal? Like i know their someone in charge with the freshmen department finances and other things . You might mean the Trust Counsler?

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