(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); alright guys i wanna this debate to be about fist fighting. Do you think its right? Only at certain times? Or violence is never the answer. Because in the U.S , if someone punches/threatens you and you strike them back it is considered assault/battery. Personally i believe that if your life is in danger or someone hit you , strike them back. But i have different view points. I know this is broad , but expand your view points on fist fighting and self defense.

Personally, I think it would be ideal if there was a standard that could be set, where if someone was a jerk to (x) degree, it should be legal to punch them. However, since it is impossible to create an objective and accurate scale for this, I think that there are a few things that could possibly justify a punch (not to say that these would, could, or should be enforced):

(The following criterion are assuming both people are men)

1. If a man throws a punch without any rational justification.
2. If a man intentionally insults another's family (any family member).
3. If a man kills another's family member(given).
4. If a man seduces another's spouse.
5. If a man intentionally injures another's family member (any family member).
6. If a man directly curses/dishonors the name of another's best friend.
7. If a man injures or kills another's pet (Dog only, sorry, other pets seem like less of a reason to throw a punch)
8. If a man threatens another's family or friends.
9. If a man strikes a woman.
10. If a man directly states that he's going to kill himself.

As I said, these are not objective and can't be accurate, but these are my personal feelings on the matter.

Prepost edit: I realized I actually forgot about self defense. :embarrassed: in terms of self defense, I think the only time that it is justified to fight back is when you can't win. It is only okay to fight back in a fight that is unfair to you. (i.e. outclassed, outnumbered, if the other person has a weapon, etc.)

You make it hard to argue the point of self-defense when you narrow it down to fist-fighting only.. I know that most states have laws where you can use deadly force to protect yourself and family if your life is threatened. In Michigan, you have the right in your home if your threatened to use deadly force.

Now the reason most fist-fights involve both parties getting into trouble with the law, is because it's just that a fist fight. If it's 6 on 1 then I'm sure a judge would let you off the hook; or if they had a weapon and you were unarmed it's understandable.
``But if both people are unarmed and it's a fair fight, one could always run away.

those laws will never pass , but honestly their some jack @$$ out there that just really aggravate you . If some one has lets say a knife and its at your neck you can fight back . By outclassed you mean like someone heavier that you are?

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when i mean self-defense i do mention a lot fist fighting . However your welcome to add/take away from my opinion. If its 6 v 1 i am pretty sure you can fight back legally (Dont quote me on this, not 100% sure) . If someone has a Firearm or a blade then you can 100% fight back if you please. But if it is a " fair fight". Then its considered battery , but honestly running away some times only adds more to your problems . If you really want to avoid the fight just call any authority. Running away hurts your pride and that person will catch you off guard.

Self defense shouldn't be punishable as long as you don't kill them while they submit or they're unconscious.

By outclassed I mean anyone that has a clearly discernible advantage, such as being much larger, being a professional fighter, athlete, etc. This is assuming that you didn't say or do anything that would warrant an attack.

I know those laws would never be passed, as I said, it would be impossible to create a standard that would be objective and accurate. I'm just proposing this as an ideal law in an ideal world where people are honest and selfless. However, as we know this isn't the case, these merely represent my feelings on the subject matter.

bro **** saying it now because you are currently not in the situation. But when **** in a fight **** main goal is to make them suffer , **** not ****self man .

That's quite a weird one. I agree with it though, but depending on the circumstances. How many times would you have hit on a women without knowing that they are already with someone (providing you're old enough)? If you're not old enough then when you get to be going out in bars and clubs you'll realise just how easy that it. If you went through life without trying it you would find it hard to get a girlfriend.
On the other hand, if it's say your friend that's hitting on your girlfriend, then yeah, go ahead and hit them. Not just a friend, but anyone who knows she is with you. Women don't usually say "I have a boyfriend" as their first line. It could be a genuine mistake.

I was watching a show on MSNBC, and some guy got 6 years for defending himself. Although I think he took it a little extreme, but I don't want a felony on my record.

The day I turn 21, I don't plan to get drunk (it's boring.) Instead, I plan to go apply for my gun permit. In my state, if you have a felony on your record, you can never get your gun permit.

I was looking into pepper spray. As a 18 year old, and as an adult, I think I have the right to maturely defend myself. Some of my friends break my balls about the idea. I get, "Only women carry pepper spray."

The thing is that I'm 5'7" and I weigh 125lbs. I do go to the gym, but I don't think if someone bigger then me wanted to start trouble, it would go well.

Pepper spray seems to be a good option from all the videos I've seen. I normally never look for trouble, but if it comes looking for me, then I would feel safer if I had something to defend myself.

Anyone please chime in with your opinion. Is there any reason why I shouldn't get some pepper spray to carry with me? I never had a problem before, but the older I get, the more I want to be prepared.

very interesting , your friends that are " Busting" your balls are immature little fags who wouldn't know what to do in a fight except hide in their shell. Your taking the high road , the gym is for staying in shape not kicking ass. Also you can still get a gun if you have committed a felony , its just harder and it depends on what you did.