Originally posted by skitterz
Exactly what I'm trying to get at here, if we're humans, and god is a human too, then it can't be him if you think really deep in to this subject.
This is the post I made in this thread, with similar thoughts as you:
Well if we are going to do posts from other threads, then here is mine on the belief in a god.
Quote:10-15-2010
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Originally Posted by Automaton
Probability is all we have for any argument. I think you will find that is what the whole debate lays its feet on. As you said, there either is or there isn't, and we don't know. Therefore, we debate probabilities. For instance, christians would say that god is more probable due to irreducible complexity.
Just because something is unfalsifiable does not mean its probabilities cannot be argued. For instance, we can all debate how probable it is the loch ness monster exists.
A naturalistic view must argue probability as it explanation of the impossibility of a designed universe. As mans development of scientific thought expands to explain the creation of the universe it is challenged with the concept of a beginning. Current physics theories are struggling to unify quantum, relativity, string and others and are calling a hoped for universal theory M theory. If there is no current explanation for the start of the universe, and the beginning of time and space, then there must be multiverse explanation..
There can be no other probability allowed into the discussion. This view must rule out all other types of thought including philosophical discussion on man’s concepts of conscience, or instinctual distinction of right and wrong.
All alternative explanations must be reduced to the Santa Claus theory.
When every debate ends up on the possibility of a deity or intelligent design of the universe it must be debunked by calling it some nonsensical term. It was Santa, a pixie, or the Loch Ness monster who started it all, or one can always fall back on ridiculing man’s religious writings. Any educated person understands that they were written by man and are not to be literally interpreted.
One does not need to be religious or naturalistically bound to question probability factors in their ideas of the beginning of it all. They are not bound by the possibility of a supernatural explanation for creation because of a fear that the line of thought leads to belief in the Loch Ness Monster.
There was a beginning and its cause has not been determined for certain.
One can make two choices about is cause. A naturalistic view is bound by a provable explanation. The other is willing to accept a different explanation and is bound by their faith in that belief until it is changed through ridicule or a alternative provable explanation.