Post: U.S. Military may lose pay
03-15-2011, 06:29 PM #1
helpmeoprah
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(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I know this would barely affect anyone here, but it affects me and this is what we've been talking about all day at work, so i figured i'd let ya'll in on the secret of wtf. if you don't want to read all of the stuff down there, i'll summarize by saying the U.S. government will shut down at midnight on the 17th, and they may not be paying any of the military personnel(myself) until a unknown time. Hopefully it doesn't resort to this and they pay us all....



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U.S. troops could be required to report to work without pay if a budget clash in Congress results in a government-wide shutdown, according to draft planning guidance circulating in the Pentagon.

A shutdown could happen as early as next week, as the government is set to run out of money at midnight March 17. A bill that would keep the government operating temporarily has been prepared in the House of Representatives, but it is not clear when or if it might pass.

The government has been operating under a series of temporary appropriations, known as continuing resolutions, since Oct. 1 because of lawmakers’ inability to agree on how much money to provide federal agencies. Budget discussions have become increasingly complicated since the November general elections resulted in a divided legislature, with Republicans controlling the House and Democrats controlling the Senate.

When the government was shut down in 1995, military personnel continued to report to work and were paid, but the planning guidance sent to the services and defense agencies says a shutdown this time will be different.

“All military personnel will continue in normal duty status regardless of their affiliation with exempt or non-exempt activities,” says the draft planning guidance that was prepared for the services and defense agencies. “Military personnel will serve without pay until such time as Congress makes appropriated funds available to compensate them for this period of service.”


Troops would miss a payday only if the shutdown continues through April 1.

Defense civilian workers would be divided into two categories. “Essential” employees would be required to report to work even though they will not be paid; “nonessential” employees would be furloughed, according to the memo.

Troops and essential civilians who report for work without pay would receive back pay when government funding is restored. But whether furloughed civilians would receive back pay could depend on whether Congress specifically authorizes that, according to congressional aides who have been doing their own shutdown planning.

The memo, prepared in early March but never formally issued as guidance, attempts to spell out what defense missions would shut down and what would stay open in the event funding stops.

• Military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan will continue, including preparations for any units scheduled for deployment.

• Operations necessary for national security, safety of human life and protection of property will continue, but operations that don’t meet one of those three criteria will be “shut down in an orderly and deliberate fashion.”

• Recruiting offices, processing centers and basic training will remain operational.

• Emergency repairs and maintenance that cannot be deferred will be done on base facilities and housing.

• Medical and dental facilities will remain open, although elective surgery and procedures will be postponed. Suicide, substance abuse counseling and crisis intervention will continue.

• Dependents schools and education centers for service members will be open for use by private agencies for courses for which payment already has been made.

• Dining halls, gyms and child care centers will stay open.

• Base exchanges may remain open because they operate using nonappropriated funds. But commissaries, which are supported by taxpayer funds, may be closed, although the memo says military personnel might be assigned to replace furloughed civilians so the grocery stores could remain open.


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03-16-2011, 11:52 AM #11
Originally posted by xMUFCx View Post
Armys should be having there pay increased, not loosing the ****ing thing! its pathetic, football players are on 50,000 - 200,000 a week for kicking a ball around, yet soldiers are fighting for there country and there lives and dont even get half of that in a year, its a piss take


This is exactly what i say to every football freak that lives by mine =D

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03-16-2011, 11:56 AM #12
ResistTheSun
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Great example of the two parties in the US not working together

Sucks dude
Ain't the gov meant to serve the people ?

I say if they don't agree within the time limit they get taxed 20% per day Happy

Still why is the US parties soo bi polar compared to each other ?
03-16-2011, 12:03 PM #13
Masta Of Evil
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I read that this is what they do after a long war is budget cuts, I hope they get it sorted out for when i ship out for basic at the end of the year.
03-16-2011, 12:26 PM #14
Tony_xMUFCx
Born a red, Die a red!
[quote='[Sc0user_94];2805389']This is exactly what i say to every football freak that lives by mine =D[/quote]

Its true tho, I mean yeh I love football but I dont agree with there wages, the real people are risking there lives :y:

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03-16-2011, 05:12 PM #15
helpmeoprah
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Originally posted by Sub
Just increase taxation, then you wouldn't have to moan about public sector cuts.


yeah because i'm moaning here, seriously dude. and how is military part of the public sector now?
03-16-2011, 05:58 PM #16
RICHIE209
March 6, 2011.
Originally posted by BillGates View Post
    Troops and essential civilians who report for work without pay would receive back pay when government funding is restored.


well yall getting payed sooner or later, so no big deal?


Who's to say the funding will be restored enough to pay all of the hundreds of thousands of military personnel in full?


The military needs to turn on the government.
03-17-2011, 11:27 AM #17
tylerallmighty
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Originally posted by LADY View Post
I'm proud to be an american! Where atleast i know im not free!

**** America, and everything about it.


It used to be wher we could actually be free. Now, not so much. :/
03-17-2011, 01:03 PM #18
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Originally posted by Nathanx
It used to be wher we could actually be free. Now, not so much. :/


It makes me really sad, though. Thinking about all the people back in the day who gave their lives just to have an American flag on them. Now we are flooded with taxes, that have American blood on it. So many people fought to get away from what we are suffering now. It truly is a sad thing.

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03-17-2011, 01:10 PM #19
tylerallmighty
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Originally posted by LADY View Post
It makes me really sad, though. Thinking about all the people back in the day who gave their lives just to have an American flag on them. Now we are flooded with taxes, that have American blood on it. So many people fought to get away from what we are suffering now. It truly is a sad thing.

Yeah. And to have the government totally controlling our lives! I mean, eventually they'll start telling us how to use the bathroom. It makes me wanna go live in another country, thinking it will be better anywhere but here.

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