Post: U.S. Military may lose pay
03-15-2011, 06:29 PM #1
helpmeoprah
FormerStaff HATED ON
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I know this would barely affect anyone here, but it affects me and this is what we've been talking about all day at work, so i figured i'd let ya'll in on the secret of wtf. if you don't want to read all of the stuff down there, i'll summarize by saying the U.S. government will shut down at midnight on the 17th, and they may not be paying any of the military personnel(myself) until a unknown time. Hopefully it doesn't resort to this and they pay us all....



Originally posted by another user
U.S. troops could be required to report to work without pay if a budget clash in Congress results in a government-wide shutdown, according to draft planning guidance circulating in the Pentagon.

A shutdown could happen as early as next week, as the government is set to run out of money at midnight March 17. A bill that would keep the government operating temporarily has been prepared in the House of Representatives, but it is not clear when or if it might pass.

The government has been operating under a series of temporary appropriations, known as continuing resolutions, since Oct. 1 because of lawmakers’ inability to agree on how much money to provide federal agencies. Budget discussions have become increasingly complicated since the November general elections resulted in a divided legislature, with Republicans controlling the House and Democrats controlling the Senate.

When the government was shut down in 1995, military personnel continued to report to work and were paid, but the planning guidance sent to the services and defense agencies says a shutdown this time will be different.

“All military personnel will continue in normal duty status regardless of their affiliation with exempt or non-exempt activities,” says the draft planning guidance that was prepared for the services and defense agencies. “Military personnel will serve without pay until such time as Congress makes appropriated funds available to compensate them for this period of service.”


Troops would miss a payday only if the shutdown continues through April 1.

Defense civilian workers would be divided into two categories. “Essential” employees would be required to report to work even though they will not be paid; “nonessential” employees would be furloughed, according to the memo.

Troops and essential civilians who report for work without pay would receive back pay when government funding is restored. But whether furloughed civilians would receive back pay could depend on whether Congress specifically authorizes that, according to congressional aides who have been doing their own shutdown planning.

The memo, prepared in early March but never formally issued as guidance, attempts to spell out what defense missions would shut down and what would stay open in the event funding stops.

• Military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan will continue, including preparations for any units scheduled for deployment.

• Operations necessary for national security, safety of human life and protection of property will continue, but operations that don’t meet one of those three criteria will be “shut down in an orderly and deliberate fashion.”

• Recruiting offices, processing centers and basic training will remain operational.

• Emergency repairs and maintenance that cannot be deferred will be done on base facilities and housing.

• Medical and dental facilities will remain open, although elective surgery and procedures will be postponed. Suicide, substance abuse counseling and crisis intervention will continue.

• Dependents schools and education centers for service members will be open for use by private agencies for courses for which payment already has been made.

• Dining halls, gyms and child care centers will stay open.

• Base exchanges may remain open because they operate using nonappropriated funds. But commissaries, which are supported by taxpayer funds, may be closed, although the memo says military personnel might be assigned to replace furloughed civilians so the grocery stores could remain open.


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03-27-2011, 09:01 AM #20
helpmeoprah
FormerStaff HATED ON
CNN says we're gunna get paid, but alot of us have doubts.... we'll find out in a couple days
03-27-2011, 10:53 AM #21
TheRandomGuy128
Hates Grammar Nazis
Not to sound like a flamer but Yea Military PPL do deserve to be payed WAY more as they risk their ass and tbh I think their pay is quite pathetic but Yea soccer players get Paid way more due to their special talents and especially since it's not that many soccer players compared to military ppl there are like what? only 23 players on a full squad while the USA military has what 2,000,000 personnel? even if we wanted to pay them more (which they do deserve) it is virtually impossible

I hope everything turns out well for the Soliders as they have families to feed and they can't be working just for free
03-27-2011, 12:19 PM #22
JP
Israeli/Palestinian Unity
Well thats not good at all. Feel very sorry for you guys, I'd go looking for a part-time job now if I were you's...
03-27-2011, 02:03 PM #23
Rokiz
Death is hereditary
Oh so, people can go fight and put their life on the line and then get next to nothing for it, and now there pay is going down? Hey how about we cut the pay for Mps and see how they like living off a soldiers pay or how about footballers, they get millions a week and soldiers get about a million in their life, that my friends, that is wrong.
03-27-2011, 02:12 PM #24
Stub Hero
Laying low low low
Originally posted by Derank View Post
Oh so, people can go fight and put their life on the line and then get next to nothing for it, and now there pay is going down? Hey how about we cut the pay for Mps and see how they like living off a soldiers pay or how about footballers, they get millions a week and soldiers get about a million in their life, that my friends, that is wrong.


You're forgetting that footballers aren't paid for by the state...
03-27-2011, 02:26 PM #25
Rokiz
Death is hereditary
Originally posted by Sub
You're forgetting that footballers aren't paid for by the state...


Yeaa yeaa, but the ammount they are paid for, running around for 90+ mins and kicking a ball about, they get payed millions for doing somthing that anyone can do, but how many people do you see putting their lives on the line and protecting people and getting split up from their family and friends.
03-27-2011, 03:56 PM #26
.Robot
Banned
Originally posted by Derank View Post
Yeaa yeaa, but the ammount they are paid for, running around for 90+ mins and kicking a ball about, they get payed millions for doing somthing that anyone can do, but how many people do you see putting their lives on the line and protecting people and getting split up from their family and friends.


The NFL pays them. I get what you are saying. The government has nothing to do with the salary of Football players. It would be nice to have the men putting their lives on the line day after day earn millions of dollars but that won't happen. Our government is running out of money (from the looks of it).

I don't think this will last too long though. I completely agree with your post by the way. No hard feelings? :y:
03-27-2011, 05:04 PM #27
Rokiz
Death is hereditary
Originally posted by .Robot View Post
The NFL pays them. I get what you are saying. The government has nothing to do with the salary of Football players. It would be nice to have the men putting their lives on the line day after day earn millions of dollars but that won't happen. Our government is running out of money (from the looks of it).

I don't think this will last too long though. I completely agree with your post by the way. No hard feelings? :y:


No hard feelings :love: :y:
03-27-2011, 05:09 PM #28
Waiz
The Sports Guru
How do you think i feel, when i know they colonized my country :FU:

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