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Well, if you've done ranting I'll explain... Maybe the Illuminati is not real, but I think there's a lot of evidence that the world leaders are planning a new world order. The world leaders own 80% of the world, they want World Wars. World Wars mean countries take huge loans from banks, there's evidence that America purposely put ships in German territory knowing that they'd attack them and USA could join the war meaning Bankers would earn a lot of money. In World War 2 USA did a lot of things to aggravate Japan, such as freezing stocks, stop trading etc. They knew an attack on Pearl Habour was going to happen so they could join the war. For Vietnam, USA said that 2 US Navy destroyers were attacked by Vietnam which is a lie. There's just a few examples of the power of the world leaders. (Also I believe that 9/11 was an inside job to be able to start to un-just wars, I won't include that because people disagree with me).

I can't be bothered going through all the points, but what I do suggest is watching the first Zeitgeist movie. It's the truth of religion, conspiracy and the elite bankers.

No there isn't.

No they don't

You're a conspiracy nut, you're wrong and insultingly so as well. Also, if you're not going to include it, don't include it. 9/11 was not an inside job you ****ing moron and the fact that you would say that is proof that your pathetic little life is far to boring so you need to create elaborate conspiracies where you know the truth.


I've seen it. It's nothing but conspiracy bullshit and propaganda. Would you like me to show you why? The entire film is lies. Yes, even the religion bit. They make pretty much everything up.

Try again, this time, provide evidence for your lunacy or I will continue to treat your posts like the babblings of a paranoid madman.

You just don't want to face the truth, you hide away from the evidence and call people who look into things idiots... Go **** yourself.

If you're going to say such utterly pathetic things, don't reply with a one word response you fool, include some of the so-called evidence... oh yeah, right, there isn't any. I'm ignoring you from this point on. I find you personally offensive, do not bother responding to me unless you've learned how to conduct yourself properly in a debate I will simply click 'groan' and move on. This is the debate section not the wild fantasy and accusations section.

Until anyone proves the Illuminati, I'll just consider it non existent.

You find me personally offensive? You find me personally offensive? I only responded in such a way because you were saying things like, "****ing moron", "your pathetic little life is far to boring" and even other things in your previous posts. If you totally believe what the reasons the government have told you behind the 9/11 attacks then you're being naive. I don't think the government is telling the people the truth. After the towers fell the government said that the air was safe to breathe but people started picking up illnesses around the area, it makes you question... If the government can't tell you what air is safe to breathe then it's hard to believe that they're telling truth about 9/11.

I just have a question, how do you explain the Illuminati Cards? Cards which were made between around 1901-1995 showing planes crashing into the twin towers, the oil spill, the pentagon. There's also cards which may suggest the creation of AIDs/HIV.

I'm not even going to bother responding to this in full, you are insulting my intelligence by even asking such stupid questions. I'd rather explain evolution to creationists. If I'm ever feeling particularly calm and composed I may explain a few things in more detail but you're likely too stupid to understand the truth anyway, and no that's not me insulting you, that's my actual honest opinion.

Concerning the 9/11 attack. The government of the United States was wrong... they made a mistake. They thought the air was safe, but it wasn't. They're not perfect, they occationally f*ck up. But honestly an inside job. Is it too outlandish for you to accept that a well organised and well funded terroist cell, planned and executed a "dirty bomb" tactic attack on a world power due to medievil ideals and brainwashing that lead them to link the capitalist world to all the world evils they percieve. Is it also so unreasonable for the United States, the worlds most powerful nation, to have simply overestimated it's power and not realised it's vunerabilities and as such was ill prepared and caught off guard by a sick and twisted attack killing thousands. Is that conspiracy, the conspiracy not complex enough for you. You have to add secret organisations, training camps, "controlled demolitions" and other bullshit because you can't handle the idea that America got f*cked but a bunch of primitive, backwards, extremist, desert bums. I know it's insulting, it's sickening, it makes you angry... but it's the truth, stop sullying it with you crazy f*cking delusions.

As for Illuminati Cards, I've even heard of such things, but if they exist prove it. As for the creation of AIDs, as a biochemist I feel like my IQ is in danger of dropping just by being in the same thread as you, I'm not even going to begin to explain how stupid that is, I may as well explain astrophysics to a chimp.

I'm going to stop here before I end up saying something that may get me infracted because quite frankly I crossed the line about a mile back and the line of common decency was past by you on your first post. If I don't stop now and I keep going until they have to ban me to stop me verbally destroying you, so I'm leaving it at that. Either write a constructive RESPECTFUL post detailing the cover-ups you feel have happened, how they happened and why, with evidence or leave this conversation well alone. It will do neither of us any good to sit here insulting eachother, especially as our apparent respect for eachother seems minimal at best.

I find it hard to believe that a country who can't even stick to a fixed reason why they invaded a country can be telling the full truth about such major things. For example, their reasons of entering Iraq have changed from things such as... they may have nuclear arms, when they don't have nuclear bombs they move onto the next one.... they may have biologic chemical weapons, they find out they don't have chemical weapons they move onto them wanting to help the civilians etc.

You're also pathetic towards the way you respond to me as if you think you're better than me because I have an opinion which many people would agree with me with (The fact I think the government isn't telling the truth about the 9/11 attacks). You say I'm insulting your intelligence, who the **** do you think you are... You think you're going to "verbally destroy" me with your words, the made me laugh in real life.

Also, the main evidence of the Illuminati is probably the cards.. Cards which seriously hint at events which have happened before the creation of the game and you don't even know what they are or whether they exist. That just shows you haven't looked into both sides and just dismiss it because it's what you call crazy. If you want evidence that the game actually exist, copies can actually be bought from ebay: You must login or register to view this content. Actually do some research because right now... you're "insulting my intelligence"...

I believe the Bilderberg group poses a bigger threat because we actually know what they do and who they all are.