Originally posted by PhantomRenegade
/facepalm nobody here understands what making prostitution legal means. causing it to be legal doesn't mean that street prostitution becomes legal, it means brothels would be set up, where prostitutes can apply and get employment. do you comprehend so far? okay, now the VAST MAJORITY of prostitutes are forced into selling them selves to be used so they can make ends meet, they won't go to a brothel for the following reasons, they lose money due to taxes, they lose anonymity due to being in an open to public brothel where they are registered by name, they work hours that they are given, these prostitutes or people who are forced to give sex to survive would rather do street prostitution where they are given anonymity, don't pay taxes, work hours when they choose, charge how much they please. street prostitution would not become legal though, and thus the spreading of fatal diseases is not controlled, the crimes like rape and assault and murder that happens to them doesn't have the law behind them, and thus legalization only hurts the problem.
but the brothels that are filled with registered employed prostitutes i have no problem with, they are health checked and protected, but like i said it hurts the illegal sector more then the current state its in by legalizing brothels.
that is a very rude comment, your downplaying it very hard, the vast majority of prostitutes are forced into it because its their last and final option before begging on the street for spare change, the vast minority of prostitutes do it out of their own choice and free will and are not forced into doing it because if they don't they can't get work anywhere else, please go to a womens shelter and interview some women there who are prostitutes when those shelter doors close for the night, and you will see them begging to do anything else.
if there is a problem happening to indivuals who are forced to take part in an illegal act, legalizing it doesnt remove the suffering, alternatives to what they are doing will fix the solution.
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i wasn't replying to you, you seem to have left this argument when you flamed me and alleged to report my posts, i replyed to koalaa, please have a nice day.
nobody here understands what making prostitution legal means. causing it to be legal doesn't mean that street prostitution becomes legal, it means brothels would be set up
If you think this, you've ENTIRELY misinterpreted the intentions of this thread. Prostitution isn't limited to brothels, kiddo. I don't even know why you think it is.
You're obviously the one that doesn't understand what making prostitution legal means. You're a one-track minded person, y'know? Talk to a lawyer, then come back and tell me that only brothels will be legal if prostitution in its most definitive form is legalized. God, dude. I can't believe this!
okay, now the VAST MAJORITY of prostitutes are forced into selling them selves to be used so they can make ends meet,
How in the hell do you even
think you know that? I doubt you've EVER talked to a prostitute about what they do, and why they do. Just because someone tells you something (specifically when they have no experience with it whatsoever) doesn't mean it's true. The problem with your precious statistics is that statistics are easily made up. We prefer logic, and just because you can't argue with logic doesn't mean you're right with your statistics.
they won't go to a brothel for the following reasons, they lose money due to taxes, they lose anonymity due to being in an open to public brothel where they are registered by name, they work hours that they are given, these prostitutes or people who are forced to give sex to survive would rather do street prostitution where they are given anonymity, don't pay taxes, work hours when they choose, charge how much they please. street prostitution would not become legal though,
ONCE AGAIN;
brothels aren't the only place where prostitution would and could be legalized. If you would actually read our comments, instead of accusing us of taking your comments out of context (which we obviously haven't, because you can't even back your comments up with anything other than statistics even AFTER we criticize them), you would KNOW this.
And have you ever watched those TV shows about people that work in brothels? If you watch it once, you would see how happy and well off they are.
As for
"street prostitution would not become legal though", how the hell do you know that, either? Are you a psychic? Please tell us you're a psychic, so we can take you even less seriously than we do now.
Stop combating our arguments with blatant ignorance.
and thus the spreading of fatal diseases is not controlled, the crimes like rape and assault and murder that happens to them doesn't have the law behind them, and thus legalization only hurts the problem.
If a god damned doctor hands out licenses, as many have said, but you just ignore it, it would be. As for the crimes like "rape and assault and murder that happens to them"... Really, have you ever even met a prostitute, or are you once again just believing what you're told from some "statistics"? You do realize statistics are generally made up on the spot by a company that the person who wants to have their cause supported pays... this is pretty common knowledge, and quite supported itself.
that is a very rude comment, your downplaying it very hard, the vast majority of prostitutes are forced into it because its their last and final option before begging on the street for spare change, the vast minority of prostitutes do it out of their own choice and free will and are not forced into doing it because if they don't they can't get work anywhere else*, please go to a womens shelter and interview some women there who are prostitutes** when those shelter doors close for the night, and you will see them begging to do anything else.
* = prove this. A lot of willing prostitutes do it based on the fact that it's all they can do, but that doesn't mean they don't enjoy and profit from it well. You do realize a "vast majority" in one place isn't necessarily that much in another, right? I don't know where you reside, but that's a really dangerous assumption. Go to every city, tell a few prostitutes that they don't have to do what they do, they can get help and they don't have to be a shame, and I guarantee you at least half of them will slap you.
You make prostitution sound terrible, and that in itself is implying women and men (because, AGAIN, it isn't only women that do this) prostitutes are less dignified than the average working person. Hypocrite.
** There aren't ONLY WOMEN prostitutes. not EVERYTHING is about only
THEIR "suffering". GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD, and then come back and talk to us. And a lot of woman in those shelters have abusive boyfriends, friends, and husbands, so maybe we should illegalize relationships, eh?
You're a wannabe feminist. This much has become obvious. You can't provide your own evidence, you can't argue with anything but statistics, and you constantly ignore the fact that men are forced into prostitution and are willingly prostitutes too.
You're a fanboy of the female "rights-struggle", and just like any other fanboy, you can't bring anything valid or viable to the discussion.
if there is a problem happening to indivuals who are forced to take part in an illegal act, legalizing it doesnt remove the suffering, alternatives to what they are doing will fix the solution.
If it was legal, than it wouldn't be a problem then, huh? Because prostitution would require a license, handed out by a doctor, which says that the individual who wishes to become a prostitute IS WILLING, and IS HEALTHY. And it's easy to tell if someone is insincere about willingness. Bruises, nervousness, and fear are even easier to detect.
Of course legalizing doesn't remove the suffering completely, but it would fix the issues of those who do it legitimately, and even those who don't wish to do it at all to an extent, and don't deserve to be criticized for what they do. It's not a full-proof system, but it's a SAFER system. For the prostitute AND the client. Those forced into it need to have someone help them, I won't disagree with that. But people who do it willingly and happily don't deserve to have their rights and profession of choice taken away from them. And trying to do so completely contradicts with your whole "females have rights" act. And really, you need to stop with that. Men do this too, and the fact that you're ignoring that doesn't really make your "views" sound sincere.