Post: Gay Bullying
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09-21-2011, 01:58 AM
#1
AgentJon
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Originally posted by another user
Jamey Rodemeyer, a 14-year-old boy from Williamsville, NY, took his life Sunday after what his parents claim was years of bullying because of struggles with his sexuality.
His parents, Tracy and Tim Rodemeyer, say that Jamey faced bullies for years, though things intensified in middle school, according to NBC 2. Jamey recently became a freshman at Williamsville North High School.
In the wake of their loss, the Rodemeyers hope to carry on a message of anti-bullying and acceptance. "To the kids who are bullying they have to realize that words are very powerful and what you think is just fun and games isn't to some people, and you are destroying a lot of lives," Jamey's father told WIVB.
Tracy Rodemeyer misses her son, but hopes the loss can still be used to teach a message of tolerance. "It took him away from our family way too early and we're just convinced that he had a purpose on this planet and it was to touch as many people as he could," she told NBC 2.
According to NBC, the Rodemeyers had gone to the school about the problem in the past. Jamey even sought counseling to learn to deal with the problem, but it seems it wasn't enough.
While they say their son seemed happy in the days leading up to the tragedy, his "It Gets Better" YouTube posting from May includes details about how intense the bullying was.
Through it all, Jayme remained outwardly optimistic. “That's all you have to do. Just love yourself and you're set. And I promise you, it'll get better,” he said in the video, which you can see in full below.
Gay bullying has been gaining increasing attention in the media, as a number of tragedies has brought the issue into the spotlight. Earlier this month the California State Senate passed "Seth's Law" a measure designed to curb anti-gay bullying in schools.
His parents, Tracy and Tim Rodemeyer, say that Jamey faced bullies for years, though things intensified in middle school, according to NBC 2. Jamey recently became a freshman at Williamsville North High School.
In the wake of their loss, the Rodemeyers hope to carry on a message of anti-bullying and acceptance. "To the kids who are bullying they have to realize that words are very powerful and what you think is just fun and games isn't to some people, and you are destroying a lot of lives," Jamey's father told WIVB.
Tracy Rodemeyer misses her son, but hopes the loss can still be used to teach a message of tolerance. "It took him away from our family way too early and we're just convinced that he had a purpose on this planet and it was to touch as many people as he could," she told NBC 2.
According to NBC, the Rodemeyers had gone to the school about the problem in the past. Jamey even sought counseling to learn to deal with the problem, but it seems it wasn't enough.
While they say their son seemed happy in the days leading up to the tragedy, his "It Gets Better" YouTube posting from May includes details about how intense the bullying was.
Through it all, Jayme remained outwardly optimistic. “That's all you have to do. Just love yourself and you're set. And I promise you, it'll get better,” he said in the video, which you can see in full below.
Gay bullying has been gaining increasing attention in the media, as a number of tragedies has brought the issue into the spotlight. Earlier this month the California State Senate passed "Seth's Law" a measure designed to curb anti-gay bullying in schools.
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10-01-2011, 02:35 AM
#92
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Maguss
Ok first mistake kiddo, dont use Wikipedia... lol.
You guys are seriously something else. The options in this situation are not subjective. He did not have and was not forced to make one single choice (suicide). At no point was this EVER his only option. To say anything else is literally WRONG. What dont you understand about that? Really!?
You guys are seriously something else. The options in this situation are not subjective. He did not have and was not forced to make one single choice (suicide). At no point was this EVER his only option. To say anything else is literally WRONG. What dont you understand about that? Really!?
He was forced emotionally to this option, you need to get this 'psychical' thing out your head, you don't need to be forced to do something physically, I hope nothing goes severely bad in your life, but if something does you will be able to relate to what I've been saying.
Originally posted by Maguss
Bro, I honestly 100% feel you that it would be hard and sure you may THINK it to be unbearable. But the emotional pain caused by these problems cannot cause your body to force you to succumb to suicide. It is just not a physical reality. That is the ONLY point I am trying/ and have been trying to make. I realize that great pain and suffering in ones lifetime can cause them to WANT to kill themselves but that is completely different than literally not having any other option and being physically forced to commit suicide. I totally feel bad for the kid and you and whoever else but Its not to say that he only had one option that is just crazy man.
Physical movement is based off of emotions, without emotional thought we wouldn't be able to take any physical action (to my knowledge).
10-01-2011, 02:39 AM
#93
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by RaichuHD
There goes your no insult shit down the drain, kiddo
You can't say he had other options because you're not in his situation or mindset. You can think clearly and think that everyone in your town of Bel-Air will help you.
You can't say he had other options because you're not in his situation or mindset. You can think clearly and think that everyone in your town of Bel-Air will help you.
I did not insult you in any way guy, another grasp at straws and nitpick... Just saying that using wikipedia to site information is totally worthless, professors in college will laugh at you if you put Wiki as a reference in your bibliography...
---------- Post added at 10:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:35 PM ----------
Originally posted by Kaspa
He was forced emotionally to this option, you need to get this 'psychical' thing out your head, you don't need to be forced to do something physically, I hope nothing goes severely bad in your life, but if something does you will be able to relate to what I've been saying.
There... you said it yourself you called it an option. You say he was forced to this "option". Before you were saying he had none... at least you can understand the fact that it was an option finally! What a major breakthrough! Im am somewhat relieved that you are not so clouded...
---------- Post added at 10:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 PM ----------
Originally posted by Kaspa
He was forced emotionally to this option, you need to get this 'psychical' thing out your head, you don't need to be forced to do something physically, I hope nothing goes severely bad in your life, but if something does you will be able to relate to what I've been saying.
Physical movement is based off of emotions, without emotional thought we wouldn't be able to take any physical action (to my knowledge).
Physical movement is based off of emotions, without emotional thought we wouldn't be able to take any physical action (to my knowledge).
So what about bacteria? Do they have emotions? Get real man.
10-01-2011, 02:39 AM
#94
RaichuHD
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Originally posted by Maguss
I did not insult you in any way guy, another grasp at straws and nitpick... Just saying that using wikipedia to site information is totally worthless, professors in college will laugh at you if you put Wiki as a reference in your bibliography...
Don't say anything about nitpicking, your whole argument is a nitpick. "Kiddo" is a belittling term, used to make someone feel less.
Originally posted by Maguss
So what about bacteria? Do they have emotions? Get real man.
Humans aren't bacteria. You're using the worst analogies and comparations
also protip, don't ever compare a forum debate to college
10-01-2011, 02:44 AM
#96
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by RaichuHD
Don't say anything about nitpicking, your whole argument is a nitpick. "Kiddo" is a belittling term, used to make someone feel less.
Humans aren't bacteria. You're using the worst analogies and comparations
also protip, don't ever compare a forum debate to college
Humans aren't bacteria. You're using the worst analogies and comparations
also protip, don't ever compare a forum debate to college
No my argument is that the act of suicide can only be committed by the individual and it is not ever the only option. You can always choose to stay alive and suffer in your given situation, weather or not you are willing is an entirely different story.
PROTIP: DONT QUOTE WIKI ON FORUMS lolz
---------- Post added at 10:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:42 PM ----------
Originally posted by Kaspa
No, I was never saying it wasn't an option, I was trying to say that the suicide option was (greater than?) if that makes sense, almost to the point where not doing it wasn't an option.
Yes but at that point there is still an option my friend. I am being very literal in what I am saying and I am not interpreting it in a individualistic personal level. Never ever ever is suicide your only option. Even if someone is telling you they will kill everyone and everything you love if you don't do it, you still have a choice. Even if someone is threatening you with the worst possible imaginable situation you still have the choice to grin and bear it. This is just a simple fact...
10-01-2011, 02:45 AM
#97
RaichuHD
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Originally posted by Maguss
No my argument is that the act of suicide can only be committed by the individual and it is not ever the only option. You can always choose to stay alive and suffer in your given situation, weather or not you are willing is an entirely different story.
PROTIP: DONT QUOTE WIKI ON FORUMS lolz
Yes but at that point there is still an option my friend. I am being very literal in what I am saying and I am not interpreting it in a individualistic personal level. Never ever ever is suicide your only option. Even if someone is telling you they will kill everyone and everything you love if you don't do it, you still have a choice. Even if someone is threatening you with the worst possible imaginable situation you still have the choice to grin and bear it. This is just a simple fact...
PROTIP: DONT QUOTE WIKI ON FORUMS lolz
Yes but at that point there is still an option my friend. I am being very literal in what I am saying and I am not interpreting it in a individualistic personal level. Never ever ever is suicide your only option. Even if someone is telling you they will kill everyone and everything you love if you don't do it, you still have a choice. Even if someone is threatening you with the worst possible imaginable situation you still have the choice to grin and bear it. This is just a simple fact...
I'm talking to a chimpanzee
10-01-2011, 02:47 AM
#98
Kaspa
MUDAMUDAMUDA!!!
Originally posted by Maguss
Yes but at that point there is still an option my friend. I am being very literal in what I am saying and I am not interpreting it in a individualistic personal level. Never ever ever is suicide your only option. Even if someone is telling you they will kill everyone and everything you love if you don't do it, you still have a choice. Even if someone is threatening you with the worst possible imaginable situation you still have the choice to grin and bear it. This is just a simple fact...
I don't get why you try and emphasise the fact there's an option, what are you trying to say? I don't get it.
10-01-2011, 02:48 AM
#99
Maguss
Do a barrel roll!
Originally posted by RaichuHD
I'm talking to a chimpanzee
No sir, you just REFUSE to admit that you are wrong and that kid had options instead of suicide. You act like he couldn't have kept going to school for some reason, he most certainly could have he just didn't want to anymore... I think the more accurate thing to say is that I in fact am talking to a stubborn mule?
10-01-2011, 02:52 AM
#100
RaichuHD
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Originally posted by Maguss
No sir, you just REFUSE to admit that you are wrong and that kid had options instead of suicide. You act like he couldn't have kept going to school for some reason, he most certainly could have he just didn't want to anymore... I think the more accurate thing to say is that I in fact am talking to a stubborn mule?
I'm talking to a nitpicky, "I am never technically wrong" type chimpanzee
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