Post: Gay Bullying
09-21-2011, 01:58 AM #1
AgentJon
Former Staff
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Kid kills himself after getting bullied for his sexuality... I live pretty close to his high school and thought I would share it Winky Winky.

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Jamey Rodemeyer, a 14-year-old boy from Williamsville, NY, took his life Sunday after what his parents claim was years of bullying because of struggles with his sexuality.

His parents, Tracy and Tim Rodemeyer, say that Jamey faced bullies for years, though things intensified in middle school, according to NBC 2. Jamey recently became a freshman at Williamsville North High School.

In the wake of their loss, the Rodemeyers hope to carry on a message of anti-bullying and acceptance. "To the kids who are bullying they have to realize that words are very powerful and what you think is just fun and games isn't to some people, and you are destroying a lot of lives," Jamey's father told WIVB.

Tracy Rodemeyer misses her son, but hopes the loss can still be used to teach a message of tolerance. "It took him away from our family way too early and we're just convinced that he had a purpose on this planet and it was to touch as many people as he could," she told NBC 2.

According to NBC, the Rodemeyers had gone to the school about the problem in the past. Jamey even sought counseling to learn to deal with the problem, but it seems it wasn't enough.

While they say their son seemed happy in the days leading up to the tragedy, his "It Gets Better" YouTube posting from May includes details about how intense the bullying was.

Through it all, Jayme remained outwardly optimistic. “That's all you have to do. Just love yourself and you're set. And I promise you, it'll get better,” he said in the video, which you can see in full below.


Gay bullying has been gaining increasing attention in the media, as a number of tragedies has brought the issue into the spotlight. Earlier this month the California State Senate passed "Seth's Law" a measure designed to curb anti-gay bullying in schools.


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10-02-2011, 12:11 AM #173
Maguss
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Originally posted by Phobick View Post
I forgot the word "this" but all the same your post shows how pathetic you are.


I wouldn't venture to say that you are pathetic just yet but you are certainly incompetent and unable to read and draw intelligent conclusions from thus.
10-02-2011, 12:13 AM #174
Xenoflare
Guitar is My Life
I hope no one trolls me on this (they probably will), but I believe that god made men and women for a reason (my personal opinion). Arguing in the face of facts about who should be what sexuality is one of mankind's flaws. The evidence is there, but we get so tied up in caring for others that we disregard it.
Its hard to put into words, but essentially, there will always be people who try to outcast others to make themselves feel normal. This was the case in this suicide. Both sides didn't accept things and conflicts arose. It is very hard to change a person's mindset in this day and age.
10-02-2011, 12:39 AM #175
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by ItachiUchiha953 View Post
I hope no one trolls me on this (they probably will), but I believe that god made men and women for a reason (my personal opinion). Arguing in the face of facts about who should be what sexuality is one of mankind's flaws. The evidence is there, but we get so tied up in caring for others that we disregard it.
Its hard to put into words, but essentially, there will always be people who try to outcast others to make themselves feel normal. This was the case in this suicide. Both sides didn't accept things and conflicts arose. It is very hard to change a person's mindset in this day and age.

... mindset? So it's 50% his fault for being gay -__-
10-02-2011, 01:11 AM #176
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by Maguss View Post
I do not condone suicide as it is pathetic, weak, and selfish and the individuals that commit it obviously are inferior and do not deserve the treasure that is life because they cant even realize how precious it really is.


Well said. As someone who has come across suicide on multiple occations, I can say without any compunction that I consider it pathetic and weak and that I would immediately loose all respect for anyone who commits suicide discounting those who are truly in abject agony.

Suicide is nothing more than a perminent solution to a temporary problem and if this kid was so weak as to kill himself over bullying then quite frankly good, get his genes out of the breeding population (PS: I realised as a gay kid he'd probably not breed anyway, that's not the point). What I mean is simply that, in this world, there are people dying without a penny to their name, their bodies failing them, no family to speak of, unable to socialise and maintain friendships, with literally nothing to live for, but they're still clinging on to life to their last damn breath. Why? Because life is precious, life is special. Of all the potensial people who could have existed, we do, and we don't last very long. Some people are lucky and live as long as 100 years, others like myself will have that cut short to maybe 50 years, and others though accidents, illness etc. may well have it cut even shorter. I, like all sensible people, do not believe in an after-life. I've not deluded myself that we continue after death, and I'm glad of that as it devalues the life we have to actively assume you get a longer, better, happier one next. It's also extremely arrogant to believe in an after-life. I understand why people hold this belief, it's comforting, it holds back the fear and the sense of loss, but it's a lie and we all know it. So, suicides, they're people who don't respect the incredible good fortune they have, they're people who consider their own life worthless and if that's how they see it, how can they expect me to see their life as anything else.

The question we have to ask however is simple, especially when it comes to teenagers and kids. Could someone be driven to suicide? Can their mind be poisoned? Can they be made to feel worthless and alone so much so that the emotional pain is a great as the physical pain of someone on their death bed waiting to die from a terminal illness? I personally think no, I personally feel it cannot and that these people simply lack willpower, but my own feelings aside... this happens. People who suffer tragedies, their family killed for example, often take their own lives. People who are raped do as well. So how severe must the bullying have been, how disgusting must the intollerance have been to have made a 14 year old feel that hated, alone and worthless?

While I consider suicide an example of true personal weakness and feel a great pity for these people, I consider those who spread hatred enough to make people feel so worthless, to be nothing but scum. They are bigots and they lower the collective quality of the human condition for everyone. I think it's a sad example of our current societal norms that this form of bullying still exists, just as it would be for children to be actively racist in a school. As for what I'd do about it, I'm not sure... but I know something does need to be done, such victimising isn't acceptable in any reasonable and free society and anyone defending homophobic bullying is a disgusting and pathetic individual.

That is all.

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10-02-2011, 01:24 AM #177
Originally posted by TornadoCreator View Post
Well said. As someone who has come across suicide on multiple occations, I can say without any compunction that I consider it pathetic and weak and that I would immediately loose all respect for anyone who commits suicide discounting those who are truly in abject agony.

Suicide is nothing more than a perminent solution to a temporary problem and if this kid was so weak as to kill himself over bullying then quite frankly good, get his genes out of the breeding population (PS: I realised as a gay kid he'd probably not breed anyway, that's not the point). What I mean is simply that, in this world, there are people dying without a penny to their name, their bodies failing them, no family to speak of, unable to socialise and maintain friendships, with literally nothing to live for, but they're still clinging on to life to their last damn breath. Why? Because life is precious, life is special. Of all the potensial people who could have existed, we do, and we don't last very long. Some people are lucky and live as long as 100 years, others like myself will have that cut short to maybe 50 years, and others though accidents, illness etc. may well have it cut even shorter. I, like all sensible people, do not believe in an after-life. I've not deluded myself that we continue after death, and I'm glad of that as it devalues the life we have to actively assume you get a longer, better, happier one next. It's also extremely arrogant to believe in an after-life. I understand why people hold this belief, it's comforting, it holds back the fear and the sense of loss, but it's a lie and we all know it. So, suicides, they're people who don't respect the incredible good fortune they have, they're people who consider their own life worthless and if that's how they see it, how can they expect me to see their life as anything else.

The question we have to ask however is simple, especially when it comes to teenagers and kids. Could someone be driven to suicide? Can their mind be poisoned? Can they be made to feel worthless and alone so much so that the emotional pain is a great as the physical pain of someone on their death bed waiting to die from a terminal illness? I personally think no, I personally feel it cannot and that these people simply lack willpower, but my own feelings aside... this happens. People who suffer tragedies, their family killed for example, often take their own lives. People who are raped do as well. So how severe must the bullying have been, how disgusting must the intollerance have been to have made a 14 year old feel that hated, alone and worthless?

While I consider suicide an example of true personal weakness and feel a great pity for these people, I consider those who spread hatred enough to make people feel so worthless, to be nothing but scum. They are bigots and they lower the collective quality of the human condition for everyone. I think it's a sad example of our current societal norms that this form of bullying still exists, just as it would be for children to be actively racist in a school. As for what I'd do about it, I'm not sure... but I know something does need to be done, such victimising isn't acceptable in any reasonable and free society and anyone defending homophobic bullying is a disgusting and pathetic individual.

That is all.
But if he didn't get help its almost impossible to deal with on your own.

---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Originally posted by Maguss View Post
Once again your sentence doesn't even make sense in any context...

You seem to be attacking me as if I am against gays... I never ever once said that.

My only point is that suicide is an individual act, and that's a fact guy.
Thx for getting reported, its against the rules to neg rep someone just because they did it to u

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10-02-2011, 01:39 AM #178
Xenoflare
Guitar is My Life
Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
... mindset? So it's 50% his fault for being gay -__-

That is 1/2 the problem. The other half is the people who defend it, causing the ****ed up POV on heterosexuality and homosexuality.
10-02-2011, 01:41 AM #179
Just4Hax
"I will speak ill of
Originally posted by ItachiUchiha953 View Post
That is 1/2 the problem. The other half is the people who defend it, causing the ****ed up POV on heterosexuality and homosexuality.

Well **** you, because it has nothing to do with the people bullying and harassing them. Why do you think homosexuality is wrong?
10-02-2011, 01:49 AM #180
TornadoCreator
A Storm Approaches.
Originally posted by Phobick View Post
But if he didn't get help its almost impossible to deal with on your own.

That's not true in all cases, and even if it was, that neither addresses my point not counters anything I said. I didn't claim they can deal with it without help or that help shouldn't be given. In fact, I think you'd find if you weren't responding with such ferver that I agree with you, but you'd only know that if you'd reached the end of the post.

Originally posted by Phobick View Post
Thx for getting reported, its against the rules to neg rep someone just because they did it to u

True, it is against the rules to 'neg-rep' someone just because you did it to them. However the reputation system is supposed to be a way of showing respect and gratitude for useful, well written posts that have substance and thought put into them. You up-rep when someone has posted something of value and down-rep when someone is harming the community. I want you to know this because you down-repped my post, apparently for no other reason than dissagreeing with a position you didn't even fully understand. My post was well written and on topic, therefore I'm down-repping you for missusing the rep system. You down-rep people you disagree with and up-rep those you agree with, rather than up-repping those who put effort into the community. I consider this damaging to the community and will use my full 5619 rep (earned though making posts of value) to show my displeasure by reducing your rep, if you want to earn it back, learn to make worthwhile posts detailing your opinion and explaining your reasoning, and learn that dissagreeing with someone is not reason enough to down-rep them. I up-rep people I disagree with occationally if they make worthwhile posts, because a discussion forum is pointless if the only people you value are the people with the exact same opinions you hold.

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PS: Do not claim that I down-repped you because you down-repped me and start threatening to report me, it won't make a difference and you know that's not the case.
10-02-2011, 01:51 AM #181
Munky
League Champion
Not telling anyone about your sexuality could of changed this, but this is pretty sad.

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