Post: Gay Marriage
09-21-2011, 12:19 PM #1
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I do, what have they done to us to make them not be able to marry?



There are literally hundreds of reasons to support gay marriage. Or, if you consider each and every homosexual out there who is legally denied his or her basic rights, millions. But it seems to me that the following five are irrefutable.

1. The kids come out just fine.

We all have different perspectives on the best way to raise our children. But it seems outrageous to me that anybody with the right body parts --murderers, drug addicts, even convicted child molesters-- can get married and have children, while same sex couples who have done nothing wrong cannot. If, as those who support a gay marriage ban claim, children are such an important part of the equation, why are they focusing their efforts on people who make just as effective parents as anybody else? Why not focus on the people who really do harm to their children?

"On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and romantic relationships and behaviors, teens with same-sex parents are as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. A more important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment is the quality of the relationships they have with their parents." You must login or register to view this content..

Good parenting is about love, stability, and responsibly. Not gender.

2. Same sex relationships are just as natural as hetero relationships.

One of the arguments against same sex marriage that infuriates the gay community is the implication that these sorts of relationships are unnatural. They're not. Homosexuality has been a part of mankind since we walked the planet. And not just us-- some members of most animal species show a homosexual preference, as well. A same-sex relationship is perfectly natural, perfectly normal, and just as worthy of acknowledgement as a hetero relationship.

Take a look at most of the gay and lesbian themed internet dating websites out there, for instance. Do you see a list of unstable sexual degenerates? No. Mostly, you see people just like any heterosexual, looking for just what any heterosexual is looking for: a lifetime partner.

3. Marriage has never been static, anyway.

Those in favor of banning gay marriage tend to use a lot of words like "tradition" and "sanctity." But the definition of marriage has been in constant flux since its inception. At its beginnings, marriage was often about the exchange of property or even about creating peace between two countries. In many places and in many times, marriage was between several people, or wasn't even recognized by law, or was purchased only with large amounts of money. And as early as the 1960's and 70's, the right to marry was denied to interracial couples and the mentally handicapped. Is that what "tradition" looks like to you? How can people argue that allowing gays to marry is against the tradition of marriage, when there is no tradition of marriage. It's an institution which is constantly in flux.

4. Denying gays rights is discrimination.

In the United States, some polls have shown that while 75% of people support the idea of gay rights in general, more than 50% --including some of those who consider themselves gay-rights supporters--are against gay marriage. Instead, those people support the idea of "separate but equal" rights. And while granting those rights is a step in the right direction, not allowing gay couples the full rights of straight couples automatically classifies them as second-class citizens.

Think back to your high school history classes. Does "separate but equal" sound familiar? That's because it comes straight from the Jim Crow laws in the US in the first part of the 20th century, which required blacks to be physically segregated from whites. How fair does that sound today? Separate but equal is not equal. It's separate, it's discrimination, and it's a violation of a gay couple's rights.

5. No church should determine legal policy.

Now, I think this is the most important argument of them all. Almost everybody who is truly against gay marriage is against it for religious reasons. But unless you live in the Vatican, religion and law are --and should be-- two separate things. The rights of marriage are something given by the state, not the church.

It's true that parts of the Christian bible and other religious texts speak out against homosexuality. But what has that to do with the legal institution of marriage? The Bible, the Koran, the Torah, and all other religious tomes have their place in the world. But that place is not where a country's laws are made.

We all have our own opinions about what's right and what's not. But "live and let live" isn't such a bad motto to have. The truth is, there's no real reason to get worked up about the idea gay marriage. It's been legal in places like Spain for years with absolutely no detriment to society or to the institution of marriage. What it has done is grant perfectly deserving people the same rights as everybody else-- regardless of what gender of person they prefer to have sex with.
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09-23-2011, 03:59 PM #83
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Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Slavery is approved in the Bible as welll, should we re initiate that too?

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All these people attacking gay marriages sound gay them self's :dumb:


Looks like we know who's gay :dumb:

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09-23-2011, 04:00 PM #84
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Its a test. Why do you think we are here. To get tested if we obey him & follow him.


Religion is incredibly contradictory, whoever decided to make it up clearly didnt think it through. The idea of a perfect being who is all knowing, loving and all powerful cannot possibly exist. If God truly was all knowing there wouldnt be any need for a test, like clit_muncher said. Equally by testing us, which causes suffering, god cannot be all loving, if this was the case. There would be no suffering. Finally god cannot be all powerful as it clearly doesnt posses the ability to intervene in which case, it might as well not exist. Result = no god, and if there is, its a really shitty one.

Religion really does spoil this world. Not only are 90% of arguments and wars caused by religion. But its sad, because most people appear to have been brainwashed, thinking that something like being homosexual is wrong. Simply because a book says so, that level of narrow mindedness is really sad to see, and it makes me wonder how anyone can be that irrational and ignore logic, and reason all in the hope that by following what a silly old book says they will have a good afterlife which has no proof saying it even exists, rather than enjoying their current life.

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Stop being a stupid troll k :dumb:


Hypocrisy at it's finest. Nice one.
09-23-2011, 10:41 PM #85
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Originally posted by St0rM View Post
Looks like we know who's gay :dumb:

Please stop post boosting at this point No
09-23-2011, 11:54 PM #86
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Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Please stop post boosting at this point No


Speak for your self genius.

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09-23-2011, 11:59 PM #87
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Originally posted by St0rM View Post
Speak for your self genius.
Haha that is a good one
09-24-2011, 10:03 AM #88
Everyone should have a chance
09-24-2011, 01:52 PM #89
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Just legalize it since it doesn't concern me in any way.
09-24-2011, 07:04 PM #90
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Originally posted by Ghost View Post
Just legalize it since it doesn't concern me in any way.
yea not like there gonna mess with us.
09-24-2011, 07:06 PM #91
Originally posted by St0rM View Post
Looks like we know who's gay :dumb:


Either you're stupid, ignorant, childish, or a troll. Or a mix of the lot. Whatever you are, your views are meaningless, pathetic and homophobic.

Anyway, moving on...

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