Post: Gay Marriage
09-21-2011, 12:19 PM #1
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I do, what have they done to us to make them not be able to marry?



There are literally hundreds of reasons to support gay marriage. Or, if you consider each and every homosexual out there who is legally denied his or her basic rights, millions. But it seems to me that the following five are irrefutable.

1. The kids come out just fine.

We all have different perspectives on the best way to raise our children. But it seems outrageous to me that anybody with the right body parts --murderers, drug addicts, even convicted child molesters-- can get married and have children, while same sex couples who have done nothing wrong cannot. If, as those who support a gay marriage ban claim, children are such an important part of the equation, why are they focusing their efforts on people who make just as effective parents as anybody else? Why not focus on the people who really do harm to their children?

"On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and romantic relationships and behaviors, teens with same-sex parents are as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. A more important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment is the quality of the relationships they have with their parents." You must login or register to view this content..

Good parenting is about love, stability, and responsibly. Not gender.

2. Same sex relationships are just as natural as hetero relationships.

One of the arguments against same sex marriage that infuriates the gay community is the implication that these sorts of relationships are unnatural. They're not. Homosexuality has been a part of mankind since we walked the planet. And not just us-- some members of most animal species show a homosexual preference, as well. A same-sex relationship is perfectly natural, perfectly normal, and just as worthy of acknowledgement as a hetero relationship.

Take a look at most of the gay and lesbian themed internet dating websites out there, for instance. Do you see a list of unstable sexual degenerates? No. Mostly, you see people just like any heterosexual, looking for just what any heterosexual is looking for: a lifetime partner.

3. Marriage has never been static, anyway.

Those in favor of banning gay marriage tend to use a lot of words like "tradition" and "sanctity." But the definition of marriage has been in constant flux since its inception. At its beginnings, marriage was often about the exchange of property or even about creating peace between two countries. In many places and in many times, marriage was between several people, or wasn't even recognized by law, or was purchased only with large amounts of money. And as early as the 1960's and 70's, the right to marry was denied to interracial couples and the mentally handicapped. Is that what "tradition" looks like to you? How can people argue that allowing gays to marry is against the tradition of marriage, when there is no tradition of marriage. It's an institution which is constantly in flux.

4. Denying gays rights is discrimination.

In the United States, some polls have shown that while 75% of people support the idea of gay rights in general, more than 50% --including some of those who consider themselves gay-rights supporters--are against gay marriage. Instead, those people support the idea of "separate but equal" rights. And while granting those rights is a step in the right direction, not allowing gay couples the full rights of straight couples automatically classifies them as second-class citizens.

Think back to your high school history classes. Does "separate but equal" sound familiar? That's because it comes straight from the Jim Crow laws in the US in the first part of the 20th century, which required blacks to be physically segregated from whites. How fair does that sound today? Separate but equal is not equal. It's separate, it's discrimination, and it's a violation of a gay couple's rights.

5. No church should determine legal policy.

Now, I think this is the most important argument of them all. Almost everybody who is truly against gay marriage is against it for religious reasons. But unless you live in the Vatican, religion and law are --and should be-- two separate things. The rights of marriage are something given by the state, not the church.

It's true that parts of the Christian bible and other religious texts speak out against homosexuality. But what has that to do with the legal institution of marriage? The Bible, the Koran, the Torah, and all other religious tomes have their place in the world. But that place is not where a country's laws are made.

We all have our own opinions about what's right and what's not. But "live and let live" isn't such a bad motto to have. The truth is, there's no real reason to get worked up about the idea gay marriage. It's been legal in places like Spain for years with absolutely no detriment to society or to the institution of marriage. What it has done is grant perfectly deserving people the same rights as everybody else-- regardless of what gender of person they prefer to have sex with.
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09-25-2011, 03:21 AM #101
St0rM
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Originally posted by RAGEVSFURY View Post
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[/COLOR]You know nothing about people and make assumptions...
Shows how little intellect you possess.


I do know enough to assume you are a fag supporter, Your obviously some what of gay, most likely a metrosexual, considering your
defending homosexuals.
Stupid..
09-25-2011, 03:23 AM #102
RAGEVSFURY
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Originally posted by St0rM View Post
I do know enough to assume you are a fag supporter, Your obviously some what of gay, most likely a metrosexual, considering your
defending homosexuals.
Stupid..

Figures,you have f uck all of a clue about me.
09-25-2011, 03:27 AM #103
St0rM
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Originally posted by RAGEVSFURY View Post
Figures,you have f uck all of a clue about me.


I know, I could tell by the start you were a metro.
with the name "RAGEVSFURY"
Sounds really "sweet" in a brotherly kind of way.
It's okay to show your feminine side.
That's why you came to this thread, and I came to this thread for one comment and not to quote all you
homosexual's and metrosexuals, who are supporting such a non christian thing.
09-25-2011, 03:31 AM #104
Originally posted by St0rM View Post
I do know enough to assume you are a fag supporter, Your obviously some what of gay, most likely a metrosexual, considering your
defending homosexuals.
Stupid..
He must be gay because he standing up for a group of people? Thats just pathetic to say man come on....
Originally posted by RAGEVSFURY View Post
Figures,you have f uck all of a clue about me.
Can u believe him?

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Originally posted by St0rM View Post
I know, I could tell by the start you were a metro.
with the name "RAGEVSFURY"
Sounds really "sweet" in a brotherly kind of way.
It's okay to show your feminine side.
That's why you came to this thread, and I came to this thread for one comment and not to quote all you
homosexual's and metrosexuals, who are supporting such a non christian thing.
Why are you thanking my post if im against what your saying?
09-25-2011, 03:38 AM #105
St0rM
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Originally posted by Phobick View Post
He must be gay because he standing up for a group of people? Thats just pathetic to say man come on....
Can u believe him?

---------- Post added at 11:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 PM ----------

Why are you thanking my post if im against what your saying?


What group of people? sir I'm against homosexuals, they should not marry.
How can I be "gay" If I'm against anything to do with being homosexual.
Like a few posts ago, someone said "They called them adam and eve not adam and steve"
For a reason.
You all sound very homosexual the way you defend these people,
I do not know one single straight person that would even brother defending a homosexual unless they had a feminine side to them.
You are the gay ones lol.
09-25-2011, 03:59 AM #106
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Originally posted by St0rM View Post
What group of people? sir I'm against homosexuals, they should not marry.
How can I be "gay" If I'm against anything to do with being homosexual.
Like a few posts ago, someone said "They called them adam and eve not adam and steve"
For a reason.
You all sound very homosexual the way you defend these people,
I do not know one single straight person that would even brother defending a homosexual unless they had a feminine side to them.
You are the gay ones lol.
How are we gay for supporting a "cause" you heartless bastard go take your flaming to Pv we don't want it here at NGU so get a ****ing life and quit being a bully, people are different go to hell you ****er

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09-25-2011, 04:04 AM #107
Just4Hax
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Originally posted by Kammmmi View Post
I go to church every Wednesday and I am relegious, but being gay is not right.

Neither is dishonoring your parents

Leviticus 20:9
Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

and slavery is A okay

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
09-25-2011, 04:26 AM #108
Originally posted by St0rM View Post
What group of people? sir I'm against homosexuals, they should not marry.
How can I be "gay" If I'm against anything to do with being homosexual.
Like a few posts ago, someone said "They called them adam and eve not adam and steve"
For a reason.
You all sound very homosexual the way you defend these people,
I do not know one single straight person that would even brother defending a homosexual unless they had a feminine side to them.
You are the gay ones lol.
NO! I wast calling u gay! I was saying it like a question. I was saying how can u say that bout someone....

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Originally posted by FSA View Post
How are we gay for supporting a "cause" you heartless bastard go take your flaming to Pv we don't want it here at NGU so get a ****ing life and quit being a bully, people are different go to hell you ****er
Thanks, i would thank you but im out right now :p I didn't know standing up for someone's human rights could be looked down upon....
09-25-2011, 04:28 AM #109
Jared
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Originally posted by Just4Hax View Post
Neither is dishonoring your parents

Leviticus 20:9
Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.

and slavery is A okay

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.


I don't care what bible verses you throw at me. I am like any other Lutheran that has their own oppinions and I am not for gay marriage. I go to church to get my sins forgiven for these types of things. Get over it.

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