Post: Gay Marriage
09-21-2011, 12:19 PM #1
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I do, what have they done to us to make them not be able to marry?



There are literally hundreds of reasons to support gay marriage. Or, if you consider each and every homosexual out there who is legally denied his or her basic rights, millions. But it seems to me that the following five are irrefutable.

1. The kids come out just fine.

We all have different perspectives on the best way to raise our children. But it seems outrageous to me that anybody with the right body parts --murderers, drug addicts, even convicted child molesters-- can get married and have children, while same sex couples who have done nothing wrong cannot. If, as those who support a gay marriage ban claim, children are such an important part of the equation, why are they focusing their efforts on people who make just as effective parents as anybody else? Why not focus on the people who really do harm to their children?

"On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and romantic relationships and behaviors, teens with same-sex parents are as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. A more important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment is the quality of the relationships they have with their parents." You must login or register to view this content..

Good parenting is about love, stability, and responsibly. Not gender.

2. Same sex relationships are just as natural as hetero relationships.

One of the arguments against same sex marriage that infuriates the gay community is the implication that these sorts of relationships are unnatural. They're not. Homosexuality has been a part of mankind since we walked the planet. And not just us-- some members of most animal species show a homosexual preference, as well. A same-sex relationship is perfectly natural, perfectly normal, and just as worthy of acknowledgement as a hetero relationship.

Take a look at most of the gay and lesbian themed internet dating websites out there, for instance. Do you see a list of unstable sexual degenerates? No. Mostly, you see people just like any heterosexual, looking for just what any heterosexual is looking for: a lifetime partner.

3. Marriage has never been static, anyway.

Those in favor of banning gay marriage tend to use a lot of words like "tradition" and "sanctity." But the definition of marriage has been in constant flux since its inception. At its beginnings, marriage was often about the exchange of property or even about creating peace between two countries. In many places and in many times, marriage was between several people, or wasn't even recognized by law, or was purchased only with large amounts of money. And as early as the 1960's and 70's, the right to marry was denied to interracial couples and the mentally handicapped. Is that what "tradition" looks like to you? How can people argue that allowing gays to marry is against the tradition of marriage, when there is no tradition of marriage. It's an institution which is constantly in flux.

4. Denying gays rights is discrimination.

In the United States, some polls have shown that while 75% of people support the idea of gay rights in general, more than 50% --including some of those who consider themselves gay-rights supporters--are against gay marriage. Instead, those people support the idea of "separate but equal" rights. And while granting those rights is a step in the right direction, not allowing gay couples the full rights of straight couples automatically classifies them as second-class citizens.

Think back to your high school history classes. Does "separate but equal" sound familiar? That's because it comes straight from the Jim Crow laws in the US in the first part of the 20th century, which required blacks to be physically segregated from whites. How fair does that sound today? Separate but equal is not equal. It's separate, it's discrimination, and it's a violation of a gay couple's rights.

5. No church should determine legal policy.

Now, I think this is the most important argument of them all. Almost everybody who is truly against gay marriage is against it for religious reasons. But unless you live in the Vatican, religion and law are --and should be-- two separate things. The rights of marriage are something given by the state, not the church.

It's true that parts of the Christian bible and other religious texts speak out against homosexuality. But what has that to do with the legal institution of marriage? The Bible, the Koran, the Torah, and all other religious tomes have their place in the world. But that place is not where a country's laws are made.

We all have our own opinions about what's right and what's not. But "live and let live" isn't such a bad motto to have. The truth is, there's no real reason to get worked up about the idea gay marriage. It's been legal in places like Spain for years with absolutely no detriment to society or to the institution of marriage. What it has done is grant perfectly deserving people the same rights as everybody else-- regardless of what gender of person they prefer to have sex with.
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09-22-2011, 06:00 AM #47
Its not natural

Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve

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09-22-2011, 07:50 AM #48
Originally posted by deathpwnag3 View Post
Its not natural

Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve


Firstly, the idea of Adam & Eve and creationism in general is ridiculously flawed. Secondly, it shouldn't matter that it's not 'natural'. I'm sure using electricity to power our computers isn't exactly natural either, is it?

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09-22-2011, 08:38 AM #49
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to be honest, it doesnt really bother me.
i do my thing, they do theirs (or each others lmao)
09-22-2011, 08:43 AM #50
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Originally posted by Graphiq View Post
Think they should be legalized?

I do, what have they done to us to make them not be able to marry?

We,as the most dominant species on this planet have evolved and changed in more ways than one.
Being gay(debatable on how the individual came to be) IMO,is just another change some go through.
For some(mainly hardcore religious nutjobs) it's always been a taboo subject to talk about and hatred towards gays due to religious reasons of course.
It's this very backwards mindset that creates friction in our society.
We should not be judgmental towards the choice of others,regardless what they may be for we are not perfect ourselves.
Let them(gays/lesbians) be how they choose if no harm comes from it or to others,for the wheel has turned and no action will stop it nor change it's direction/course.
Adaptation to change is key to mankind's survival.

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09-22-2011, 12:25 PM #51
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Originally posted by Phobick View Post
I think he might be gay...thats why hes talking all this shit. He's trying to cover it up...


Why would I have to cover stuff like that up on the internet? You don't know who I am, how I look like, where I live etc. Ridiculous statement.

Originally posted by pspgamer77 View Post
The only reason people are quoting you is to show that they are replying to specifically your comment. Why do you care if we quote you?


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09-22-2011, 12:40 PM #52
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All these people defending gay marriages sound gay them self's :dumb:
09-22-2011, 01:58 PM #53
Originally posted by RAGEVSFURY View Post
You must login or register to view this content. Originally Posted by Phobick You must login or register to view this content.

Has i said many times before, being a good person is before the bible. Isn't that the kind of attitude God would want u to have ne way?

Proper way :
I've said it many times before,that being a good person comes before the bible.
Isn't that the kind of attitude god would want you to have anyways?

The majority of your sentence is understandable.
The reason why Coding can't understand it is because he constructs his sentences in a scrambled way for others to decipher.
Half the time I have no f ucking idea what he's on about.
It would also have made sense if I would of put "as" instead of "has" to start the sentence.

---------- Post added at 09:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 AM ----------

Originally posted by St0rM View Post
All these people defending gay marriages sound gay them self's :dumb:
That's what I thought myself when I was posting all this shit. But I'm not gay lol. It just makes me mad how he judges people so easily.

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09-22-2011, 02:26 PM #54
Originally posted by St0rM View Post
All these people defending gay marriages sound gay them self's :dumb:


/facepalm

That's like saying back when slavery was being abolished that everyone who defended the slaves sounded like slaves themselves, FFS. How stupid.

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09-22-2011, 02:49 PM #55
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You must login or register to view this content. Originally Posted by Phobick You must login or register to view this content.
Has i said many times before, being a good person is before the bible. Isn't that the kind of attitude God would want u to have ne way?

To rephrase your sentence :

" As i've said many times before,being a good person comes before the bible."
" Isn't that the kind of attitude god would want you to have anyway?"

Originally posted by Phobick View Post
It would also have made sense if I would of put "as" instead of "has" to start the sentence.

Again,to rephrase :

" It would have made much more sense if I use the word "As" instead of "Has" at the start of the sentence "

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