Post: 911 a conspiracy?
08-11-2009, 10:25 PM #1
Antones
Blood of Innocence
(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); Do you think 911 is a Conspiracy? There are many different cases to say it is.

Case 1: Remote Demolitions.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0Ms7mId34"]YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION DESTROYED THE WTC!![/ame]

People are saying that 911 was a controlled demolition. As you heard in the video people say that the heard sounds as if it was a demolition. Also Look at the way the buliding cascades in. Controlled right? To me if a plane hit a tower i think that the tower could with stand a bit longer. But the way it falls and go's down quickly. I think its defo controlled.

Case 2: The Aircrafts

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbVn3o8JNE&feature=related"]YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: WAS FLIGHT 175 A MILITARY PLANE?[/ame]

When the footage of the second plane to hit the WTC is closely analyzed, there are several anomalies that are apparent. The first is an asymmetrical missile-like object on the belly of the plane t...
When the footage of the second plane to hit the WTC is closely analyzed, there are several anomalies that are apparent. The first is an asymmetrical missile-like object on the belly of the plane that should not be on a commercial airliner. The second is the flash the emits from this "pod" a second before the impact with the building. Was this plane indeed a Commercial airliner? Was the anomaly on the underside of the plane actually a high-tech weapon? See "In plane site" for free of google video for more information.

Case 3: Thermite in the towers

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv2ck2qsiGA&feature=related"]YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: EVIDENCE OF THERMITE AT THE SOUTH TOWER[/ame]

BYU physicist Professor Steven Jones told peers at a Utah meeting that, "while almost no fire, even one ignited by jet fuel, can cause structural steel to fail, the combination of thermite and sulf...
BYU physicist Professor Steven Jones told peers at a Utah meeting that, "while almost no fire, even one ignited by jet fuel, can cause structural steel to fail, the combination of thermite and sulfur "slices through steel like a hot knife through butter."

Jones points to this video which shows a bright yellow molten substance dripping from the south tower minutes before its collapse. Government investigators claimed that this was aluminum from Flight 175 but Jones is adamant that aluminum is silvery in appearance and doesn't turn yellow.

Jones also told the media that sulfur traces found at ground zero indicates the thermite was combined with sulphur to make it burn even hotter than the normal 2500 degrees Celsius.

Jones stated that thermite was a "clever" choice because its ingredients, aluminum and iron oxide do not require identifying tags by law, meaning they couldn't be traced back to their manufacturers.

Case 4: United 93 Getting Shot down OR Passengers Took it down

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKGRyotcPh4&feature=channel_page"]YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: THE LEGEND OF FLIGHT 93[/ame]

We all know the inspiring story of Flight 93, of the heroic passengers who forced the hijacked plane to the ground, sacrificing themselves to save the lives of others. The only trouble is: it may s...
We all know the inspiring story of Flight 93, of the heroic passengers who forced the hijacked plane to the ground, sacrificing themselves to save the lives of others. The only trouble is: it may simply not be true.

The fate of United Airlines Flight 93, the last of the four hijacked planes to go down in the United States on 11 September, holds no mystery for Lee Purbaugh. He saw what happened with his own eyes. He was the only person present in the field where, at 10.06am, the aircraft hit the ground.

"There was an incredibly loud rumbling sound and there it was, right there, right above my head - maybe 50ft up," says Purbaugh, who works at a scrapyard overlooking the crash site. "It was only a split second but it looked like it was moving in slow motion, like it took forever. I saw it rock from side to side then, suddenly, it dipped and dived, nose first, with a huge explosion, into the ground. I knew immediately that no one could possibly have survived."

The shortage of available facts did not prevent the creation of an instant legend - a legend that the US government and the US media were pleased to propagate, and that the American public have been eager, for the most part, to accept as fact. The legend goes like this: the passengers on the hijacked United flight, alerted on their mobile phones to the news of the other three hijacked planes, decide that if they are not going to save themselves at least they will do the patriotic thing and spare the lives of those who are the terrorists' intended targets; so they charge down the aisle, storm the cockpit, where a terrorist is at the controls, and, in the ensuing struggle, force the plane down.

Case 5: Pentagon Strike

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvNTDzpRkG0&feature=channel"]YouTube - 9/11 CONSPIRACY: PENTAGON STRIKE!![/ame]

Was the pentagon really hit by a Boeing 757 jet?

There was no trace of it!
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Ok this post is legit. I really did make this myself. It took about 45 minutes to make. If i find any other relevant information to go up on here ill add it. Ok please keep it to a clean debate. Rep And thanks would be nice.
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09-09-2009, 07:10 PM #20
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Loose change was a sloppy conspiracy documentary and having been debunked they look like a bunch of knuckleheads imo.
09-09-2009, 07:38 PM #21
Cobra-D
Smells Like Teen Spirit
Originally posted by GQGK View Post
obama is taking it easy on terrorists? in the war he said he would end he has sent more troops. how is that taking it easy? get some facts straight first.

and no its not a conspiracy. first off has anyone ever seen a high impact crash? it leaves no remains, aka "the missing plane." also, detonations wouldnt work on the world trade center. it was made to withstand much more force than detonations would give. and if it was a detonation the windows would blow out. that didnt happen. next, the building collapsed the way it did because the force of the plane is not enough to bring it down. what happened is a fire started. the steel used in the WTC was covered in a fireproof spray foam which hardens when used. however, jet fuel causes a fire so hot and intense, it melted the spray and in turn left the steel to itself. that caused the building to fall the way it did. if you want i can continue to debunk...

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and the free fall equation doesnt work here. you have a force called friction. the healthy steel, kept the other steel from falling as fast. that is why it took more time. dear lord please learn science before saying EVIDENCE.

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you realize pretty much every single first world country in the world operates in debt?


You forgot to mention how long it takes to prepare a building to be demolish.
09-09-2009, 11:48 PM #22
For you're information, jet fuel burns at a max temperature of around 1000*C, whereas steel melts at around 1500*C, so even with the absolute optimum conditions, it would not have melted the steel, and let's say it did happen to melt the steel, by some freak of nature, the steel would have melted on the side the plane hit first, even by the tiniest bit more, and the building would have bent to the side, not all come down at the same time perfectly positioned. You sir have no leg to stand on with that argument, bring on any more, I'll debunk them all, I'll even rebunk your debunks =D Just want a discussion, no flaming or abusiveness please.
09-13-2009, 12:27 AM #23
Originally posted by boxiom View Post
People died, on American soil. Thats ****ed up to disrespect them and their families by saying this was a government action.

Check your facts, the jackass who made Loose Change is a poor ass paranoid college student who has Windows Movie Maker. Same with all the other videos, lame quality, made by little kids.

There was a show about Conspiracy Theories and why people tend to believe them. Its related to a bunch of factors such as bandwagon jump ons by everyone, and how easy it is to convince the average person.

I can make up something, that sounds like it could even be remotely possible, and if I write a book about it, and publish it, it will be widely believed. For example, I could say the government is using Call of Duty 4 as a military training device for all children, but we dont know. Then our children grow up and will join the army because they were brainwashed by the game. Then I will show facts such as 8/10 kids who played COD4 joined the army. It really just has to do with how gullible the average dumbass US citizen is.


Ok firstly, even IF people died, nobody is disrespecting them or their families, you idiot, we are critisicing the government, trying to find justice for the people who died and their familes.

Secondly over 60% of the US population believe it was an inside job, if you cannot see it with the facts, you're an idiot, simple as that.

Thirdly, I'm Irish, but way to diss all the users from US on here.

Finally, if you believe an ENTIRE plane went into the pentagon, and the wings and engines did not even touch the surface of the walls, you are the one being brainwashed...... and you're an idiot.
09-13-2009, 02:17 PM #24
That Loose Change documentary thing on YT really made me realise what a load of c**** the government are. To (supposedly) kill hundreds, if not thousands of people just to needlessly invade another country is appalling. What a corrupt government.
09-13-2009, 03:03 PM #25
Thank you Sam.
09-14-2009, 12:48 AM #26
boxiom
Do a barrel roll!
The government are the real terrorists? Wow lol. And so what justice could we possibly get if they control everything? Tell me how we will get the justic and who will dish it out, im curious.

"So the reason the government isn't corrupt is because we cannot overthrow them? Wow that makes loads of sense..."

What? I never said that...that doesnt even make sense. Learn to write proper english.

I'm going to ignore your furious rant rage that is full of improper sentences and word usage.

"You would litterally have to mentally retarded and extremely ignorant to see all of this evidence and still believe the brainwash government."

LOL that made me laugh, that doesnt even make sense! lol!

so once again, tell me how old are you, 14?
and stop with the randomly picking out facts from the videos. you get your facts from VIDEOS ON THE INTERNET. where anyone can say anything. people have a tendency to think ANYTHING on the internet is real. you are one of these people. you will work at mcdonalds the rest of your life.

once again, this website debunks you:
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with evidence from real people, and real reliable sources.

have fun living the rest of your life in fear of the government pussy.
and please, answer that first question I asked as well.
09-14-2009, 04:00 PM #27
8 years and people don't know how to let it go.

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09-14-2009, 08:14 PM #28
boxiom
Do a barrel roll!
"Ha idiot. So you are disproving that the government are terrorists, with a point saying they are in power and we cannot do anything. Doesn't make sense, we are debating whether or not the government is corrupt, not whether or not we can overthrow them."

No, im saying the government aren't terrorist, because thats one of the most ****ing retarded statements I have ever heard in my life. You would have to be mentally ****ed up to believe that the government, are terrorists. Oh im just pointing out a fact bub. You say you want justice against the government, I want to know how your going to achieve that. Kind of like in Valkeyrie (spelling), they were going to kill Hitler, but first they had to plan what they would do after that. So tell me, if the government did it, how are you going to get that justice for those people, and what will you do after you get it. And your basically saying , all those towel heads, are innocent?

"Ha that is all proper english, and even if it wasn't, you are doing the same thing I said you would, criticising me, not my facts, fail."
No, its not. You suck at english. Ha? What is that? A laugh or you struggling to breathe? Stop eating fat ass.

I see this "evidence" that a stoned college student produced in Windows Movie Maker. I then laughed at it. You know why? Because a stoned college student made it in Windows Movie Maker. College students tend to think they know everything. Kind of like you (im still guessing that your like 14 years old, answer me god dammit!)

"Again, just critisicing me, not the facts.

That website is aload of bullshit, "real people" my ass, more like bribed people.
And stop giving me that shitty link, I see you still haven't posted evidence against my two points, please post evidence against them, stop posting that shit link, and do it yourself, you ignorant person."

Aload is a word? Weird!
Bribed people?! BRIBED PEOPLE?! HAHAHAHAHA Where the **** did you come up with that? Those people are bribed? By who! You ****ing paranoid piece of shit! You are so ****ing ignorant!

I dont have evidence against your 2 RANDOM facts, because I havent spent the last 10000 hours of my days researching this. Because unlike you, im content with my life, and the government. I know, this is not an "inside job". I dont need to get evidence to prove some 14 year old kids 2 theories that he read straight out of a movie and copied and pasted into this forum. Think for yourself , not what mommy, daddy, and the internet tell you.

And if you dont have faith in the government, get the **** out of America, and go live in a 3rd world country. See how you like it there, then when you come back crying like a ****ing bitch, were not letting you back.

It's pieces of garbage like you (your irish you said?) that dont deserve our freedom and independence. The government does **** up, but god damn they let you live the life you live right now. Compared to basically every other country, its an untouchable life. Go live in China, where the government straight up shoots its people in the head outside there homes, and rapes their sisters and moms.

You are a worthless piece of ****ing shit and deserve to burn in hell.

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