Originally posted by TornadoCreator
Don't try and get out of this, it's a well known fact that British humour is based of sarcasm with shows like Blackadder and Red Dwarf yet most Americans don't "get" sarcasm. Saying sarcasm is widely used in USA is like claiming that Islam is really popular in the western world at the moment... a total fúcking lie basically. USA is famous for not understanding sarcasm, seriously.
YOU may use it sarcastically occationally, maybe, (although I don't think you do, I think you slipped up because the mistake is so common over there and you're trying to save your bacon), but don't try to convince me that the average person using it in every day speach is using is sarcastically because they're not. I watch American TV, I listen to podcasts made in America and about 75% of the YouTubers I watch are American too... they say it all the time, it's not sarcasm and we both know it.
Still my sexy friend, I'll leave this gental ribbing as it is, it's not worthy of a full on trolling. You're a decent guy who slipped up because everyone makes that mistake, I'm not blaming you, I'm just taking the piss a little. It's like "less" and "fewer", everyone does it but for someone who speaks proper English, it makes people sound like pre-school children in my head and I'm forced to pull them on it.
Really? It's used in moderation in the adult world, but in school many people used it. I'd say everyone has experience with it and knows what it is. Though I'll retract my 'used widely' statement. Messed up there, but it is used.
I don't think I misstepped at all with the way I used it. It's just...how it's used here. If I make a mistake, I own up to it. I've never heard someone say they "could care less" about something, meaning they actually could in fact care less. I can't really even think of how I'd phrase it.
Here's an example of how I'd say it:
Friend: How do you think the Wizards will do this season?
Me: I don't know...I could care less about the Wizards.
Here, I'll quote an article by the Boston paper.
Originally posted by another user
As Liberman observed in a 2004 post at Language Log, “could care less” is not uniquely odd. Its pattern is familiar in other phrases like “I could give a damn” (and its ruder variants), and in the lyrics of Sammy Cahn’s 1940s classic, “I Should Care.” But whatever its sources — sarcasm, irony, Yiddish, or (as its detractors say) ignorance — “could care less” is snugly embedded in the American idiom. Yet the complaints keep rolling in.
Maybe I was just taught wrong or the phrase has been americanized. I'm not trying to cover my ass;.. it may be going against the literal definition, but the phrase is accepted as genuine sarcasm where I live. We could all just be making the same mistake. maybe we're all wrong, but we'll go down with the improper ship together.
But if I'm truely mistaken, thanks for the correction. It's just trivial debate, but yet good debate. I'm always glad to say my side and hear the other's with an intelligent person like you TC.